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How often should you dose?
    #19191382 - 11/26/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So I've found this past year (after tripping A LOT) once every 20~ days to be appropriate with exceptions for concerts where I may dose twice in a row. It leaves the magic of psychedelics there fully without giving me too long of a break between. Now I'm seeing some friends who are dosing 4/10 days consistently. I feel like they're just ruining the magic and mystery of LSD and using it to the point of abuse. I hint at this and I tell them I've been there (I have) and it's just not worth it. The novelty of LSD fades completely and the brain stays fried for longer and longer.

Is it just different strokes for different folks and these guys are fine? Should I be a good friend and seriously tell them they're tripping too much? I just feel like I'm seeing them going through what I went through just over a year ago which led to a 7 month psychedelic break and a HUGE hesitance to ever trip again


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: OZA]
    #19191417 - 11/26/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, having never done LSD specifically but other drugs like the DO family that are supposed to have similar effects, among many others, I can say that especially with regards to time, I don't know that I would even want to be tripping that often.

Besides that, with the tolerance it's a waste. That's reason enough. More acid for lesser trips just seems lame, since you can space it like you do, even 10 days apart and still not build tolerance


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #19191437 - 11/26/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How do you find the after effects are at that frequency? I'm trying to reinvent my tripping routine. It used to be once a month, but lately more like 1-2 times a month. Not sure whether I should keep in there or slow down again


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19191455 - 11/26/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

1-2 times a month is perfectly fine. It's the 2-in-a-rows or 3 times in a week that kill me, that's why I don't know if what my friends are doing is healthy.

You've got it spaced out long enough to stay healthy, you just need to find the space between where LSD stays the mystical and beautiful experience that it is. It becomes a problem when the feeling is wayyyy too familiar


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: OZA]
    #19191583 - 11/26/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly, you shouldn't dose more than 6 times each year.



Obviously, this is gonna get a lot of heat. There are people here that trip every week. However, I don't think it's a good idea. First of all as you touched upon, you lose the magic 100%. Psychedelics should be magical at all times, and abusing them is not the way to go. Also, let's not forget that these are drugs. They do have unforeseen consequences on our psyches, especially with continued usage.

Acid should be used to reset, or for healing, or during times or trouble, soul searching, or even extreme happiness. Even though these all occur all the time, it's about narrowing down your emotions to the raw basics and finding the true issues/virtues of your personality.

Eating acid every 2 months is a great way to see the psychedelic landscape and maintain ties to normal living. Of course this is just my opinion!


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: KingKnowledge] * 1
    #19191686 - 11/26/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When you put six times a year as "every two months" it doesn't sound half as bad. :lol:


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19192208 - 11/26/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Honestly, you shouldn't dose more than 6 times each year.



Obviously, this is gonna get a lot of heat. There are people here that trip every week. However, I don't think it's a good idea. First of all as you touched upon, you lose the magic 100%. Psychedelics should be magical at all times, and abusing them is not the way to go. Also, let's not forget that these are drugs. They do have unforeseen consequences on our psyches, especially with continued usage.

Acid should be used to reset, or for healing, or during times or trouble, soul searching, or even extreme happiness. Even though these all occur all the time, it's about narrowing down your emotions to the raw basics and finding the true issues/virtues of your personality.

Eating acid every 2 months is a great way to see the psychedelic landscape and maintain ties to normal living. Of course this is just my opinion!



Yeah you're completely right. I don't know if it specifically has to be 2 months, but it IS harmful when used in excess and should be kept for the very very best of moments. And because those moments come so often it's necessary to force "trip breaks" upon yourself.


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: OZA]
    #19192318 - 11/26/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i try not to trip often, maybe every 4-6 months
But when i do trip, i make sure to go all out


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: BIGS]
    #19192456 - 11/26/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Once a month is my favorite although I usually only get to trip two-three times a year as that makes me sad.


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19192467 - 11/26/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

once a week unscheduled some times a week or so between but if you got good L and a solid Brain why not? :lsdabc:


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: AndersonCoopmasta]
    #19192507 - 11/26/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like with tolerance, it's a waste. You want to maximize each trip, make each trip profoundly different for yourself. It's not a party drug. Spread it out and give your mind time to recuperate and absorb.


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
    #19192842 - 11/26/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm more worried about side effects than losing magic honestly. I tend to not think much of it but I had a convo with one of my good buds yesterday and he told me a friend got HPPD from doing salvia once and another got the Alice in wonderland effect from one time with 2c-I. Seems shitty and makes me wonder if I'm pushing my luck.


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19193084 - 11/26/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Obviously, this is gonna get a lot of heat. There are people here that trip every week. However, I don't think it's a good idea. First of all as you touched upon, you lose the magic 100%. Psychedelics should be magical at all times, and abusing them is not the way to go.




not true IME, i used to trip very often, sometimes 3-4 days a week, and binging up to 6-7 days in a row.  this went on for a couple years.  Combined with meditation the dream gets deeper and deeper the more the trips go on, and the hallucinations start seeming less and less like hallucinations.  It was a very magical time in my life and I would never wish to take it away.


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: Hobozen]
    #19193092 - 11/26/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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blankk said:
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KingKnowledge said:
Obviously, this is gonna get a lot of heat. There are people here that trip every week. However, I don't think it's a good idea. First of all as you touched upon, you lose the magic 100%. Psychedelics should be magical at all times, and abusing them is not the way to go.




not true IME, i used to trip very often, sometimes 3-4 days a week, and binging up to 6-7 days in a row.  this went on for a couple years.  Combined with meditation the dream gets deeper and deeper the more the trips go on, and the hallucinations start seeming less and less like hallucinations.  It was a very magical time in my life and I would never wish to take it away.




Damn, any side effects from that?


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19193128 - 11/26/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well I have a genetic predisposition to Schizophrenia.  Aside from that, I am a functioning member of society, have solid relationships especially with family and most the time I'm either in a neutral mood or happy.  I do feel a large disconnect from most people, but with the few that I do connect with, the connection is very deep.  Before the psychedelics, I felt as though I was trapped in a "bubble".  I have a clear memory at around age 13 while skateboarding and feeling as though I was trapped in some kind of invisible shell.  This is why I got so heavily into psychedelics, it felt as though they were freeing me from this shell.  I now experience a depth in life that could not be experienced before the psychedelics.


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: OZA]
    #19193234 - 11/26/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I never had a problem tripping once a week on lsd. Was a great time of my life and I'd do it all over again. I'll admit it can have some slight lasting effects but I enjoy it and it doesn't distract me.

imo the "magical" part of the experience is highly dependent on set/setting... not how often you trip.


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: Hobozen]
    #19194153 - 11/26/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Well I have a genetic predisposition to Schizophrenia.  Aside from that, I am a functioning member of society, have solid relationships especially with family and most the time I'm either in a neutral mood or happy.  I do feel a large disconnect from most people, but with the few that I do connect with, the connection is very deep.  Before the psychedelics, I felt as though I was trapped in a "bubble".  I have a clear memory at around age 13 while skateboarding and feeling as though I was trapped in some kind of invisible shell.  This is why I got so heavily into psychedelics, it felt as though they were freeing me from this shell.  I now experience a depth in life that could not be experienced before the psychedelics.




Damn schizophrenia and tripping multiple times a week...?? Well good on you for keeping it together. I hope it continues that way


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19194255 - 11/26/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I used to eat acid everyday. Horrible horrible idea, potent 200ug hits too. It was stupid. I was super high, but after being high for a long time you start to think you are down when you aren't. EVERYTHING has a second, third, fouth meaning. Get paranoid delusions, start thinking the mail man is an NSA spy.

I honestly think it's really not worth doing more than once a month if that.


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Re: How often should you dose? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19194326 - 11/26/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not full blown schizophrenia... yet.  I'm currently diagnosed with schizo-affective disorder.  I get the "fear" on rare occasion that schizophrenics talk about.  Fear for no reason, which leads to paranoid delusions and hallucinations.  The hallucinations happen whether or not the fear is there which is nice as they aren't disruptive.  Last night people were trying to break into my place to murder or abduct me.  Deep down I knew it was a delusion and tried to talk myself out of it but it seemed so far out of my control.  I was listening intensely for the sounds of the intruders and heard a voice in my head say something to me.  It is extremely unreal.  You can hear the voice speaking to you and it appears to be of a separate entity, and not of a manifestation of your thought process.  This has happened a few times over the years, so the schizophrenia could be developing.  Scary stuff!!

I forgot to mention that around 6-7 years ago I went through years of drug-induced psychosis after a full blown LSD ego loss experience.  I was using the mushrooms during the time I was using the acid so it could have played a role, but it seems the hard LSD trips had a much deeper impact on my psyche, which led to the breaking down of my personality structure (finished off by ego loss on LSD).  I've heard of people (Shroomism for one) consuming copious amounts of psychedelics and remaining fine.  I believe it's my genetics that led to the psychosis, and not the psychedelics.  But I do feel it has been a powerful learning experience, and a necessary step in the understanding of what I am in this strange place.


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    #19194336 - 11/26/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone should dose a minimum of once a week.
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