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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: spazmodog]
    #19191771 - 11/26/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

People saying so does not make it so.


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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19191776 - 11/26/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yes, im just trying to make the distinction between that and enils literal use of the word,
not everyone is a law man


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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: spazmodog]
    #19191777 - 11/26/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree that many people would say that animals SHOULD have rights.  It is a popular sentiment, and one that has grown over the last few decades.

Animals currently have none, though, and it'd be hard to fit such rights into our culture.  For instance, cows are killed every day for food.  That's not going to change.  If that cow suddenly had some rights, could she be killed?  It's hard to argue that someone/something has any rights at all if they can be killed at the whim of their owner.

Even slaves couldn't be killed at the whim of their owners...at least not legally.

I believe we should protect animals from certain cruelties, but I also believe that without the right not to be killed at the whim of someone else, one can't have any rights at all.


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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
    #19191801 - 11/26/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so do people on death row have any more rights than a cow?


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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: spazmodog]
    #19191810 - 11/26/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: spazmodog]
    #19191869 - 11/26/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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so do people on death row have any more rights than a cow?



First, I would argue that people on death row are not there "at the whim of someone else."

Second, though I am vehemently against the death penalty, I would argue that the road to execution (in the U.S. at least) is all about protecting the rights of the accused, and it takes many years of checks and balances before someone is executed.  If anything, this confirms the amount of rights that humans enjoy in the U.S.

Finally, humans enjoy the right not to have their life taken without due process.  The key here is "due process."  Animals don't get any due process when they're killed.


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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
    #19191914 - 11/26/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yes plus we dont eat dead convicts


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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: spazmodog]
    #19191953 - 11/26/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Speak for yourself.


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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
    #19191973 - 11/26/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

live ones are better,
nothing like a fresh pumping artery
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
    #19191998 - 11/26/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you kill a police dog you get tried for killing a cop.  Not a cop's dog, not vandallism,but killing a cop.

How is that not a de facto posthumous right?


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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: lowbrow]
    #19192024 - 11/26/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If you kill a police dog you get tried for killing a cop.  Not a cop's dog, not vandallism,but killing a cop.




This is false.  Probably a lie, maybe a mistake, but definitely false.


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