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Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? 1
#19191576 - 11/26/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It seems to me that nobody takes the Republicans seriously anymore. They seem to be a problem in general and a magnet for idiots.
Is it just me or is the Republican party considered to be the #1 problem in America?
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No one takes our politicians seriously, period. Republican or Democrat. Pretty sure both parties have had majorities over the last 30 years and here we are.
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Liberals are the #1 problem. If we weren't such pc pussies we'd get shit done
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: dontknow]
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IMO, liberals are the future of the US. I don't know why so many people use the word liberal as an insult
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: gzuf]
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gzuf said: No one takes our politicians seriously, period. Republican or Democrat. Pretty sure both parties have had majorities over the last 30 years and here we are.
Yeah, we bounce back and forth on hating parties, give it a while and it'll be reversed again.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: Is it just me or is the Republican party considered to be the #1 problem in America?
Actually, “The No. 1 domestic terrorism threat is the eco-terrorism, animal-rights movement.” --John Lewis, FBI deputy assistant director and top official in charge of domestic terrorism.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: gzuf]
#19191654 - 11/26/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your opinion of the politics here is laughable.
The tide shifts left. The tide shifts right. The tide returns towards the middle.
You were doing good lately. Until this dumb post.
If no-one took them seriously they wouldn't control the House and the majority of state governments.
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As the graphic shows, 30 states have Republican governors, and in all but five of those (Iowa, Maine, New Jersey, New Mexico and Nevada) with the GOP also controls the state legislature. (Nebraska has a unicameral, non-partisan legislature.)
What's more, Republican state legislative majorities in 14 states (including two with Democratic governors, Arkansas and Missouri) are strong enough to override gubernatorial vetoes.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/02/04/the-republican-partys-big-state-level-advantage-in-one-chart/
Republicans want to mind my business. Democrats want to empty my wallet. Both suck.
It's just you.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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dontknow said: Liberals are the #1 problem. If we weren't such pc pussies we'd get shit done
IMO, liberals are the future of the US. I don't know why so many people use the word liberal as an insult
Because it is an insult when discussing politics. The US was built on personal responsibility. That's what the overriding concern should be... that it remain so.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19191672 - 11/26/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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dontknow said: Liberals are the #1 problem. If we weren't such pc pussies we'd get shit done
IMO, liberals are the future of the US. I don't know why so many people use the word liberal as an insult
Because it is an insult when discussing politics. The US was built on personal responsibility. That's what the overriding concern should be... that it remain so.
Personal responsibility is what is killing America. Everybody is out for themselves and don't care about their neighbors as long as they are fine.
What happened to the motto No man left behind?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
#19191674 - 11/26/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Republicans will be lucky to win the white house once more in my lifetime.
The demographics of the party are terrible. They do poorly among young people, women, and minorities. Their only reliable demographic voting block is older white men. They may win the legislature back in the short term, but their policies turn off the majority of the nation. And the Rand Pauls and Mitch McConnelsl of the world will be ridiculed into insignificance.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/11/20/ted_cruz_vs_cnn_anchor_on_obamacare_i_appreciate_your_trying_to_lecture_me.html
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
#19191677 - 11/26/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Personal responsibility is what is killing America.
uhm
do you actually believe that?
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#19191678 - 11/26/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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They are certainly going through and identity crisis. The aging christian scumbags are their old base, the younger secular libertarians are their future. Making that transition is not easy and they are going to be weak as a result.
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#19191689 - 11/26/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really don't care what is going on in politics... It's all a bunch of nonsense...
Logically, anarchism is the future. What is going on right now is hilarious.
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#19191704 - 11/26/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is no libertarian future to the party. They are a fringe group and if they ever gained prominence the conservative coalition would fall apart. Without social issues half the republican voters don't show up on election day.
Social conservative issues are the only reason the republicans have managed to claw themselves out of the legislative death spiral they had been in for decades.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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dontknow said: Liberals are the #1 problem. If we weren't such pc pussies we'd get shit done
IMO, liberals are the future of the US. I don't know why so many people use the word liberal as an insult
Because it is an insult when discussing politics. The US was built on personal responsibility. That's what the overriding concern should be... that it remain so.
Personal responsibility is what is killing America. Everybody is out for themselves and don't care about their neighbors as long as they are fine.
What happened to the motto No man left behind?
Lack of personal responsibility is what's killing America. The whiners who think they are entitled to the fruits of anothers labor are.
Americans give more to charity than the 150ish out of 160ish countries. Fun fact: Americans give the same percentage to charities as... wait for it... wait for it... Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Giving_Index
Oh, and no man left behind is a US Marine corp saying.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: DrugsRGood]
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I heartily accept the motto,—“That government is best which governs least;” and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which I also believe,—“That government is best which governs not at all;” and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: dontknow]
#19191707 - 11/26/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Personal responsibility is what is killing America.
uhm
do you actually believe that?
I do. When nothing more than the absolute necessary is done for the collective, it creates a competitive, greedy and selfish environment. It encourages an "every man for himself" mentality instead of creating a "were all in this together" mentality. It multiplies the problems in America IMO. Rich people become outraged when asked to help the poor, healthy people get outraged to pay for sick people, add the 2nd amendment in there and you have people shooting each other. It creates a toxic environment.
When you take away the team mentality, people become selfish and stop caring about their fellow man.
I dunno, that's what I think
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19191715 - 11/26/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Every 4-8 years (sometimes even 12+ years, depending on if we have a president that the majority liked) the majority of people swing from republican to democrat or vice versa.
So if obama does some sketchy things before he leaves office, like bush did, the majority of people will go back to thinking that republicans are awesome and democrats are stupid. You gotta understand that the majority of people in the US (the whole world to be honest) is mass of people that do not like to do their own thinking and LOVE to sit on the fence so they can join the popular side.
So obviously, because bush was a blabbering idiot, republicans are unfavored. The tides will turn, no doubt about that. I think it's gonna take longer for people to hate democrats this time around. My guess is that people will rationalize with the actions obama has made MUCH MORE than they did with G.Bush. If that is the case, we will probably have another democrat as president, but my guess is that the sides will change after that president has served his/her turn.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal] 1
#19191721 - 11/26/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sounds more like you just support a bunch of free loading
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Herbologist]
#19191729 - 11/26/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I prefer to use the word, helping out my fellow citizen in need
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: ganjfather]
#19191737 - 11/26/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is actually false
http://history.house.gov/Institution/Party-Divisions/Party-Divisions/
Start at 1933 and then go to the 90s. Democrats always win on the issues. Republicans win by appealing to the lowest common denominator. The strategy has worked well for them but has pigeon holed them into the rural obstructionists. They have no other options now.
Not that I think that American political parties really represent divergent views of what society should be. But where I come from conservative means upholding the status quo. And after taking a basic western history class you should know it isn't a compliment.....
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin] 1
#19191745 - 11/26/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
#19191748 - 11/26/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope. Fiscal conservatives will always exist. Politics in general has become a joke, not just the Republicans
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mescalean]
#19191778 - 11/26/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Then comes the extremes and name calling. Yay.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mescalean]
#19191785 - 11/26/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Socialism is not communism. And you leave in a socialist nation. Get over it
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin]
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Juicin said: This is actually false
http://history.house.gov/Institution/Party-Divisions/Party-Divisions/
Start at 1933 and then go to the 90s. Democrats always win on the issues. Republicans win by appealing to the lowest common denominator. The strategy has worked well for them but has pigeon holed them into the rural obstructionists. They have no other options now.
Not that I think that American political parties really represent divergent views of what society should be. But where I come from conservative means upholding the status quo. And after taking a basic western history class you should know it isn't a compliment.....
I'm not saying that EVERY person follows the crowd, but I've seen it first hand. I live in what was a very conservative town, but after G bush came and fucked our economy, our town switched views and voted democratic as far as majority goes which was a big change. It really does just go in waves. If it didn't, then both parties wouldn't exist, it would just be a democratic president every term. But both parties rely solely on the previous party fucking up and upsetting a major group of people, which makes the party in power have to change as much as they can while making it seem like as little as possible was changed so as to not upset a big group of people that can swing the next election for them. Politics isn't about politics any more, it's like 2 sheep herders both trying to heard the big group into their fences. If one makes a sudden move and scares a few sheep, they could run off, scaring more sheep into running off and into the other Sheppard's gate and just like that, a new political party owns the majority.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: ganjfather]
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They certainly don't happen like you're describing as even close to a rule
The congressman and senators who have held public office in the same districts for decades can attest to that..................
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I think Canada is rapidly turning into a joke
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Yes, the Republican party is losing support as they get more and more extreme. You can't rationally support a party whose has members that straight up deny science. The problem with this is that the only real option left if the Democratic party, which I view as better, but not quite the answer. They are free to overspend on more and more programs as Republicans lose support since they can justify it by saying that the people wanted them in power. I'm very concerned for the future of US politics.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin]
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Well when I start caring what the Canadians are doing i'll let you know.....
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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So who here believes if I work my ass off to make a decent living, made sacrifices, went to school. That I should pay more taxes than joe shmoe who made zero effort in life working at kfc.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mescalean]
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I do, you can afford it. You did well, now give back. That's what I mentioned earlier. A culture of selfishness and greed
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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How much do you give?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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it's just all a giant game of monopoly being played with real money and real dice and the stakes are the planet and the future of human civilization
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin]
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The congressman and senators who have held public office in the same districts for decades can attest to that..................
We aren't talking a few single congressmen and senators, we are talking political parties in power, which is not the same thing. Go look at a list of presidents by political affiliation, since the 50s it has literally switched back and forth every 4-16 years and I can guarantee that within the next 10 years the majority will be back in favor of the republicans.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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Is it just me or is the Republican party considered to be the #1 problem in America?
It's you.
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ganjfather said: Go look at a list of presidents by political affiliation, since the 50s it has literally switched back and forth every 4-16 years and I can guarantee that within the next 10 years the majority will be back in favor of the republicans.
While I'd not even try to predict a time frame, the basic premise is correct.
Those who are foolish enough to state one party or the other will never be in power again will be greatly disappointed.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: mpd]
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It's been a joke since Nixon.
But the rest of the world finally industrialized, and now it's obvious their economic policies are complete failures, especially when the most functional and sustainable national economies in the world are all "liberal."
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: ganjfather]
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A few? And the cut off there is 35 years not 20
When people look at an electoral map they see where their base is strong, then they pour money into it. People are not changing their believes wildly all over the country. People have all sorts of feelings about local politicians that have nothing to do with their own political views.
edit - forgot the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_United_States_Congress_by_longevity_of_service
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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I got a friend, who is a Republican but who hasnt voted in over a decade because he does not see his republican values represented by the current Republican party which he insists is "hijacked by nutjobs"
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: mpd]
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Is it just me or is the Republican party considered to be the #1 problem in America?
It's you.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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They think that they will one day be wealthy, or have some pittance that they want to protect because they have spent their whole life hoarding it away.
Sums it up right there
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin]
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edit - forgot the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_United_States_Congress_by_longevity_of_service
Damn, that's some
and job , if ya can git it... Uninterrupted rank- 1... Name- John Dingell (H), Party affiliation- Democratic Party, ,Total tenure time- 57 years, 348 days Uninterrupted time- 57 years, 348 days
Second place was Robert Byrd (H,S), Democratic Party with 57 years, 176 days.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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OP
Seems like every week you got another US politics related thread going. Don't you live in Canada? Why so obsessed? Don't you got like moose calves to save or something
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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ya, it's becoming more like the US... which is becoming more like Russia. soon, Putin will putting golf in America, with Obama.
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it's a house of cards.
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it seemed everyone ignored this post in favor of trying to belittle one another.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Asante]
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I know some like that. But do you doubt for an instant that you couldn't find Democrats that would say the same about their party?
Because I know quite a few that find the politically correct, steal from the rich, discriminating Democrats to be a problem for them.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: vinsue]
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edit - forgot the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_United_States_Congress_by_longevity_of_service
Damn, that's some
and job , if ya can git it... Uninterrupted rank- 1... Name- John Dingell (H), Party affiliation- Democratic Party, ,Total tenure time- 57 years, 348 days Uninterrupted time- 57 years, 348 days
Second place was Robert Byrd (H,S), Democratic Party with 57 years, 176 days.
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People tend to dislike every rep and senator, except their own. Senators are in till they die, retire, or fuck up royally. I'm for term limits.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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I know some like that. But do you doubt for an instant that you couldn't find Democrats that would say the same about their party?
Because I know quite a few that find the politically correct, steal from the rich, discriminating Democrats to be a problem for them.
there is always two sides to every story.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: setb]
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19192434 - 11/26/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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there is almost always two sides to every story.
Fixed.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19192435 - 11/26/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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the room for office, the more candidates, the more people have to cover their ass, the more people have to do their job.
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there is almost always two sides to every story.
Fixed.
true, but in the case of the two party system, there is sometimes no reason to a fault, to deny that both parties have made mistakes, and people in the position to notice these mistakes are usually well informed and who are against certain platforms with which divide consensus among peers in office.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Niffla]
#19192436 - 11/26/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seems like every week you got another US politics related thread going. Don't you live in Canada? Why so obsessed? Don't you got like moose calves to save or something
It's been a while since I made a political thread.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
#19192482 - 11/26/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seems like every week you got another US politics related thread going. Don't you live in Canada? Why so obsessed? Don't you got like moose calves to save or something
It's been a while since I made a political thread.
If you don't like them feel free to not click on them
No I like them I just really thought there was a stray moose calf in your area.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Niffla]
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Moose live in the wilderness, genius. far away from the corner of Second Street, Middletown, Canada.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said: Moose live in the wilderness, genius. far away from the corner of Second Street, Middletown, Canada.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Niffla]
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other then Canada's annual Moose Drive, you rarely see Moose here!
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: akira_akuma]
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You mean the stories handed down through generations, of manly Canadians riding moose while buck naked and wearing a furry mask are just that... stories?
I am crushed.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: akira_akuma]
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All of the failures of government in the last 40 years have come from the team effort of the republican and democratic party
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On one hand I like many liberal policies and social programs, on the other hand liberals want to control everything I do except sex. The party supports anti-gun rights, and I could never live in a place like California with their high taxes and excessively restrictive building codes. Politicians on all sides are retarded, here's a woman who tried to ban water 'cause someone made it sound dangerous by making it sound all "chemical-ly" (in New Zealand) http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10463579
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: setb]
#19192552 - 11/26/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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People tend to dislike every rep and senator, except their own. Senators are in till they die, retire, or fuck up royally. I'm for term limits.
I'd like to see them actually have to work at least one 5 days in a row work week, do that retiring at age 65 thing, and get slightly less than 239 "vacation days" a year... . . .
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin]
#19192559 - 11/26/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Juicin said: A few? And the cut off there is 35 years not 20
When people look at an electoral map they see where their base is strong, then they pour money into it. People are not changing their believes wildly all over the country. People have all sorts of feelings about local politicians that have nothing to do with their own political views.
edit - forgot the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_United_States_Congress_by_longevity_of_service
Ok, now compare that list to a list of short lasting senators and congressmen , and you will see that second list is WAY bigger, in comparison your list would look like a few people
I'm not sure how you think that fence riders don't sway presidential elections substantially, and how you don't think that political parties coming into power and making big changes scares a lot of these fence riders to sway back and forth between conservative and liberal, but it's like talking to wall. I'd think common sense would have some play, but I guess not.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: vinsue]
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People tend to dislike every rep and senator, except their own. Senators are in till they die, retire, or fuck up royally. I'm for term limits.
I'd like to see them actually have to work at least one 5 days in a row work week, do that retiring at age 65 thing, and get slightly less than 239 "vacation days" a year.
Why? The more days they work, the worse we get fucked.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: ganjfather]
#19192599 - 11/26/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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To be fair they have to come up with those bills(don't they)
so there's a chance a lot of off the books time could be useful
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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Mescalean said: So who here believes if I work my ass off to make a decent living, made sacrifices, went to school. That I should pay more taxes than joe shmoe who made zero effort in life working at kfc.
I do, you can afford it. You did well, now give back. That's what I mentioned earlier. A culture of selfishness and greed
But why should I pat for some lazy fuck with zero initiative, zero drive. Whos spends his money on a brand new phone yet can't pay his bills or for food. I'll give to a charitable organization. I will not pay more taxes so the white trash of america can shoot more oxys and bring more of their kind into this world so I can pay for them? Fuck that noise.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said: other then Canada's annual Moose Drive, you rarely see Moose here! 
Hahaha I was just funnin'. I love Canada. Gorgeous up there.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Niffla]
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I live in a democratic state we pay the fuck out of taxes and have crazy auto insurance premiums
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Niffla]
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akira_akuma said: other then Canada's annual Moose Drive, you rarely see Moose here! 
Hahaha I was just funnin'. I love Canada. Gorgeous up there.
Vancouver is literally the most beautiful place I have visited in my life. Mother fuck had flowers in pots hanging from the light posts and it was so green.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mescalean]
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Hahaha I was just funnin'. I love Canada. Gorgeous up there.
Vancouver is literally the most beautiful place I have visited in my life. Mother fuck had flowers in pots hanging from the light posts and it was so green.
Never been to Vancouver but it's on my bucket list. From what I've seen it looks pretty incredible.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: So who here believes if I work my ass off to make a decent living, made sacrifices, went to school. That I should pay more taxes than joe shmoe who made zero effort in life working at kfc.
I do, you can afford it. You did well, now give back. That's what I mentioned earlier. A culture of selfishness and greed
But why should I pat for some lazy fuck with zero initiative, zero drive. Whos spends his money on a brand new phone yet can't pay his bills or for food. I'll give to a charitable organization. I will not pay more taxes so the white trash of america can shoot more oxys and bring more of their kind into this world so I can pay for them? Fuck that noise.
lots of presumptions here. it's not like a party slogan to "do drugs and spend frivolously on designer brand clothes and cellphones while not contributing to society@!" even if it might seem like it is, to you.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: akira_akuma]
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How easy it is to get on wellfare and the number of lazy fucks I've seen on it disgust me. I can call up atleast 10 people I went to highschool with that abuse this system.
You want to use MY money that I worked for to feed your kids? Hair sample, right meow.
Socialism isn't the answer to fixing this countries problem.
Does anyone remember clinton and "everyone should be able to afford a home"??? Lol
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: ganjfather]
#19192688 - 11/26/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok for one deciding to vote for the other guy is not the same as changing your political views. There are only 2 choices in many elections.
But more importantly people don't just drop everything they've ever believed once a decade. That's just fucking crazy
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: How easy it is to get on wellfare and the number of lazy fucks I've seen on it disgust me. I can call up atleast 10 people I went to highschool with that abuse this system.
You want to use MY money that I worked for to feed your kids? Hair sample, right meow.
Socialism isn't the answer to fixing this countries problem.
Does anyone remember clinton and "everyone should be able to afford a home"??? Lol
well, those people are leeches sure, but "being a leech" isn't a political platform, though. that's kinda what i was trying to say.
PS: i don't remember who Clinton is, except for his Jazz music.
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I do remember which is why I saw the word "jizz" instead of "jazz".
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin]
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Juicin said: But more importantly people don't just drop everything they've ever believed once a decade. That's just fucking crazy
Note that he didn't say all. However, enough do. The tide swings in the US.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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He said it "swings" every 16 years. Which isn't how it works. People aren't changing their opinion demographics are changing
People dying, moving, and coming of age..........
Not that you have anything to contribute
He can speak for himself
Edit - And "whole town" switching parties is pretty extreme, and exactly how he put it.
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clinton tough on crime clinton make housing/college affordable all hail clinton
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin]
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Juicin said: He said it "swings" every 16 years.
No he didn't. You should go back and look again.
You should look into who has controlled the federal government over the years.
Hint: It changes.
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Juicin said: Not that you have anything to contribute
What an angry lil' fella.
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Mescalean said: But why should I pat for some lazy fuck with zero initiative, zero drive. Whos spends his money on a brand new phone yet can't pay his bills or for food. I'll give to a charitable organization. I will not pay more taxes so the white trash of america can shoot more oxys and bring more of their kind into this world so I can pay for them? Fuck that noise.
See, here's the thing - while there are some who are like that, they are vastly outnumbered by those in actual need. You're buying into the right's lies that everyone on government assistance are deadbeats.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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I have already linked the ridiculous streak the democrats had in the last century.........Conservative ideals aren't very appealing to anyone who thinks objectively about their lot in life. From the end of slavery to women's suffrage then on to the end of segregation. Not to mention we constantly move towards a larger social safety net.
The trend is clear
"Every 4-8 years (sometimes even 12+ years, depending on if we have a president that the majority liked) the majority of people swing from republican to democrat or vice versa.
So if obama does some sketchy things before he leaves office, like bush did, the majority of people will go back to thinking that republicans are awesome and democrats are stupid. You gotta understand that the majority of people in the US (the whole world to be honest) is mass of people that do not like to do their own thinking and LOVE to sit on the fence so they can join the popular side.
So obviously, because bush was a blabbering idiot, republicans are unfavored. The tides will turn, no doubt about that. I think it's gonna take longer for people to hate democrats this time around. My guess is that people will rationalize with the actions obama has made MUCH MORE than they did with G.Bush. If that is the case, we will probably have another democrat as president, but my guess is that the sides will change after that president has served his/her turn."
This was his original statement. People are not changing their underlying political beliefs. People who were forced to free their slaves didn't change their fucking mind they just died off.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Le_Canard]
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Perhaps they are buying into the rights truths that that those that do, should not support those who don't.
Besides, when and where did anyone ever state that ALL are deadbeats?
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So we should let someone who, say is paralyzed from the neck down just starve to death?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin]
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I think that neither side is right. Everyone is dumb. There is no hope for humanity. The end.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin]
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Dude, your posts are a laugh riot. As long as you continue to make blanket statements they'll continue to be so.
This one in particular:
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Conservative ideals aren't very appealing to anyone who thinks objectively about their lot in life.
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ToiletDuk said: So we should let someone who, say is paralyzed from the neck down just starve to death?
As opposed to forcing others to care for him... yes. If members of his community wish to band together to help him, then they are good humans. The government should not be making those decisions.
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I'm willing to bet it wouldn't be those who espouse conservative and libertarian values.
P.S. Ayn Rand, in her later years, was on Social Security and Medicare.
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Ah I am glad some people do know that mans other "achievments" besides getting a hummer in the oval office.
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Actually, statistics show Republicans donate more than Democrats.
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So what?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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I don't know what bubble you live in. But go to any American University and you'll be hard pressed to find a classroom where you label yourself as a conservative and don't get laughed out of the classroom. The free market has not and will not provide for it's citizens. And there is no evidence to suggest it ever will.
While some countries are already giving out substantial guaranteed income to all their citizens we have people like you trying to piss on us and tell us it's raining.
What a joke
edit - outside a few places in my beloved midwest of course. They love that shit here
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College students are:
1. Still learning. 2. Young enough to not know half of what they are convinced they know. 3. Based on you, too angry for rational thought.
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luvdemshrooms said: College students are:
1. Still learning. 2. Young enough to not know half of what they are convinced they know. 3. Based on you, too angry for rational thought.
Weird how most college educated people turn out to be liberals.
Probably just another nationwide conspiracy to destroy America...
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Then they get older, learn more and become increasingly conservative.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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because older people like to settle down, and they don't get run through the mill of schooling, roommates, student loans, starting out in a world that doesn't give them anything (or at least complains what they are given something) ect ect
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For the record I'm a registered Republican, and haven't voted for one past the primaries since I've registered.
It has been hijacked. From religious freedom to creationism in schools. From small sustainable federal government to virtually no federal government. Their policies are laughable and unrealistic.
The rest of the world is moving left, and the GOP is moving farther right.
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akira_akuma said: because older people like to settle down, and they don't get run through the mill of schooling, roommates, student loans, starting out in a world that doesn't give them anything (or at least complains what they are given something) ect ect
Could be,but that doesn't change the fact that it happens.
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The Ecstatic said: The rest of the world is moving left, and the GOP is moving farther right.
You should read more. Conservative politics seem to be on the upswing in many countries.
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luvdemshrooms said: Then they get older, learn more and become increasingly conservative.
Learn what exactly?
The more educated people tend to be liberals. Why is that? If conservatism was so full of merit shouldn't it take less than a lifetime comprehend?
Conservatism is dying. The fact that it's most old, white, and rich people back that up.
It's like saying people get racist as they grow older because most racists are old people. No.
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Right. The cries that conservatism is dying have been around for decades, if not centuries.
Wake me if it happens.
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The Ecstatic said: The rest of the world is moving left, and the GOP is moving farther right.
You should read more. Conservative politics seem to be on the upswing in many countries.
Like what? The Golden Dawn party in Greece?
The richest nations in the world all employ socialism. Is that a coincidence? They all just lucked out even though the entire premise of the system is a failure?
Fact is, jobs ate disappearing and will continue to do so. This isn't the frontier anymore, and when the means of production fall into fewer and fewer hands, it's kinda hard to tell people to go out and produce. The world is too small for capitalism anymore.
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luvdemshrooms said: As opposed to forcing others to care for him... yes. If members of his community wish to band together to help him, then they are good humans. The government should not be making those decisions.
You are aware that that is all a government is right? Members of a community banding together to care for their people. The government is just a collection of people, there isn't anyone else to make those decisions.
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I've heard this repeated, but never demonstrated. My grandparents are getting up there in age and they're still liberal as fuck.
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luvdemshrooms said: Right. The cries that conservatism is dying have been around for decades, if not centuries.
Wake me if it happens.
Considering were basically the only (semi) functional capitalist economy going, I'd say go ahead and wake up.
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P.S. Ayn Rand, in her later years, was on Social Security and Medicare.
So what?
Well, it lends a little bit of support to the idea that many folks espousing libertarian values, only do so while they possess the means of self-support--and have few qualms to 'forced' socialism when they no longer can stand on their own.
IE, that it is a selfish position centered around the idea of not wanting to give what's mine to others, but only provisionally concerned with others giving what's theirs to me. (See Dick Cheney and his taxpayer funded heart.)
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The Ecstatic said: The rest of the world is moving left, and the GOP is moving farther right.
You should read more. Conservative politics seem to be on the upswing in many countries.
Like what? The Golden Dawn party in Greece?
The richest nations in the world all employ socialism. Is that a coincidence? They all just lucked out even though the entire premise of the system is a failure?
Fact is, jobs ate disappearing and will continue to do so. This isn't the frontier anymore, and when the means of production fall into fewer and fewer hands, it's kinda hard to tell people to go out and produce. The world is too small for capitalism anymore.
just gotta wait till the rest of the world comes to get their debts repayed to them by force.
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I like to say that libertarian is just another way of saying selfish anarchist.
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People need to realize that they DO in fact owe something to society, and helping your neighbors (voluntarily or otherwise) inevitably benefits themself.
If you wanna fend for yourself go live in a cave, because that's the last time humans operated on an individual system of survival. Protip to all the social Darwinists: cooperation is a wildly successful evolutionary trait.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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IMO, liberals are the future of the US. I don't know why so many people use the word liberal as an insult
It is a synonym for retarded bum.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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Herbologist said: sounds more like you just support a bunch of free loading
I prefer to use the word, helping out my fellow citizen in need
With other people's money. How wonderful of you.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: akira_akuma]
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The Ecstatic said: The rest of the world is moving left, and the GOP is moving farther right.
You should read more. Conservative politics seem to be on the upswing in many countries.
Like what? The Golden Dawn party in Greece?
The richest nations in the world all employ socialism. Is that a coincidence? They all just lucked out even though the entire premise of the system is a failure?
Fact is, jobs ate disappearing and will continue to do so. This isn't the frontier anymore, and when the means of production fall into fewer and fewer hands, it's kinda hard to tell people to go out and produce. The world is too small for capitalism anymore.
just gotta wait till the rest of the world comes to get their debts repayed to them by force.
Yeah right.
If you're hinting at China, theyd much rather have us as a trade partner than a war adversary, regardless the cost.
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All right zappa showed up with feces in hand so I'm out..
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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Mescalean said: So who here believes if I work my ass off to make a decent living, made sacrifices, went to school. That I should pay more taxes than joe shmoe who made zero effort in life working at kfc.
I do, you can afford it. You did well, now give back. That's what I mentioned earlier. A culture of selfishness and greed
Who is greedier? The person who wants to keep what he earned or the lazy useless sack of shit who never did anything of value but demands to be supported?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Lynnch]
#19193049 - 11/26/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: As opposed to forcing others to care for him... yes. If members of his community wish to band together to help him, then they are good humans. The government should not be making those decisions.
You are aware that that is all a government is right? Members of a community banding together to care for their people. The government is just a collection of people, there isn't anyone else to make those decisions.
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I've heard this repeated, but never demonstrated. My grandparents are getting up there in age and they're still liberal as fuck.
Actually, they are quite different. When a community bands together it's because they wish to do certain things willingly, whereas a government doesn't very often give a fuck what you or the community wants. You'll do it or face the consequences.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: zappaisgod]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/opinion/sunday/the-great-gerrymander-of-2012.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0 "Third, gerrymandering is a major form of disenfranchisement. In the seven states where Republicans redrew the districts, 16.7 million votes were cast for Republicans and 16.4 million votes were cast for Democrats. This elected 73 Republicans and 34 Democrats."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate
"Each U.S. state is represented by two senators, regardless of population, who serve staggered six-year terms. "
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Konyap]
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/opinion/sunday/the-great-gerrymander-of-2012.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0 "Third, gerrymandering is a major form of disenfranchisement. In the seven states where Republicans redrew the districts, 16.7 million votes were cast for Republicans and 16.4 million votes were cast for Democrats. This elected 73 Republicans and 34 Democrats."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate
"Each U.S. state is represented by two senators, regardless of population, who serve staggered six-year terms. "
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#19193080 - 11/26/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah right.
If you're hinting at China, theyd much rather have us as a trade partner than a war adversary, regardless the cost.
i was just giving an example of waht it would take for anyone to change their minds.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Konyap]
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Dems do just as much, if not more, gerrymandering than the Republicans do. Both do it. Neither should. This time around it just happened to be in a year that favored Republicans. Like everything else political, the winds will shift and you'll find the Republicans whining about the Democrats gerrymandering.
Look up Illinois 4th District for a perfect example.

The only thing that changes is which party is currently whining.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: zappaisgod]
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I do, you can afford it. You did well, now give back. That's what I mentioned earlier. A culture of selfishness and greed
Who is greedier? The person who wants to keep what he earned or the lazy useless sack of shit who never did anything of value but demands to be supported?
Why should society support someone who doesn't contribute like everyone else who works? Why should they get a free ride from me? Thank you
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mescalean]
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I particularly like that "give back" bullshit. I wasn't given anything so there is nothing to give back.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mescalean]
#19193161 - 11/26/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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In a system where people vote the majority usually decide
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Konyap]
#19193170 - 11/26/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Which laws have you been able to vote on?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mescalean]
#19193178 - 11/26/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mescalean said: So who here believes if I work my ass off to make a decent living, made sacrifices, went to school. That I should pay more taxes than joe shmoe who made zero effort in life working at kfc.
I do, you can afford it. You did well, now give back. That's what I mentioned earlier. A culture of selfishness and greed
Who is greedier? The person who wants to keep what he earned or the lazy useless sack of shit who never did anything of value but demands to be supported?
Why should society support someone who doesn't contribute like everyone else who works? Why should they get a free ride from me? Thank you
it's not only those people that use support. some people NEED the support, and have already GIVEN to society for years.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19193183 - 11/26/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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None. Obama is a great speaker but that's pretty much as far as his job requirements entail.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Konyap]
#19193197 - 11/26/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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His speaking abilities are just more of the media myth. Watch one of his speeches where he goes without the teleprompter.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19193209 - 11/26/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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He cracked jokes during the debate that were actually witty
that puts him pretty far ahead of the other guys
must have something to do with the choom gang
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said: Actually, they are quite different. When a community bands together it's because they wish to do certain things willingly, whereas a government doesn't very often give a fuck what you or the community wants. You'll do it or face the consequences.
Except that we willingly banded together to create a representative government made up of individual people who very much give a fuck what the people who vote for them want.
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Mescalean said: Why should society support someone who doesn't contribute like everyone else who works? Why should they get a free ride from me? Thank you
You're arguing a particularly nasty straw-man. The idea that anyone who needs support is lazy and looking for a free ride IS BULLSHIT. Most people who get government assistance DO work, but are for a MULTITUDE of reasons unable to make ends meet. Those people DO pay taxes, just like you, though most likely it is a much LARGER burden on them because of how little they make compared to what they pay, even in sales tax alone. The MAJORITY of people on assistance stay on it for only a short period of time, and then, thanks to that assistance, are able to get back to work, and back to contributing to society, and paying back in to the system. You aren't paying for other people, you're paying for yourself in case something happens.
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/ Then compare THAT to G.W. Bush WITH a teleprompter.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19193232 - 11/26/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here's the chart I was looking for.
America swings left. America swings right.

It was ever thus. Likely it will remain so. I'd suggest all of you who rejoice over what you consider the demise of the Republican party to remember that Americans are fickle.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2013/09/30/americans-are-more-conservative-than-they-have-been-in-decades/
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19193244 - 11/26/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sale's tax
Like people are going to go out one day and mob over something so trivial as sales tax...
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Lynnch]
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luvdemshrooms said: Actually, they are quite different. When a community bands together it's because they wish to do certain things willingly, whereas a government doesn't very often give a fuck what you or the community wants. You'll do it or face the consequences.
Except that we willingly banded together to create a representative government made up of individual people who very much give a fuck what the people who vote for them want.
What government is that? I'd like to see it. The ones I've seen do what they think will help increase the powers of government.
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Then compare THAT to G.W. Bush WITH a teleprompter.
I don't need to misunderemember just what a poor public speaker GWB was. So what? How does that change what I said about Obama and his TOTUS?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Konyap]
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Illyabo said: Sale's tax
Like people are going to go out one day and mob over something so trivial as sales tax...
Have you been drinking?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said: What government is that? I'd like to see it. The ones I've seen do what they think will help increase the powers of government.
That would be the essential disagreement I suppose. You see government increasing it's powers, I see government stepping in to solve problems where it can.
But heres the thing, the government doesn't just do things willynilly. We didn't raise an army because it sounded like fun to blow some shit up, and building a huge military industrial complex and a system to spy on our own systems would be neat; we raised an army because the japanese blew the fuck out of pearl harbor. I don't support health care reform because, gee I sure like to see the government with more power; I support it because there are a ton of sick people not being given the care they need, and the government is the only body that has the power to affect change at the scale needed.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Lynnch]
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Jesus fuck, thats what I dislike about political threads. You leave for 2 hours and you come back to 100 replies.... How can I possibly catch up to the convo...
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Lynnch]
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Mescalean said: Why should society support someone who doesn't contribute like everyone else who works? Why should they get a free ride from me? Thank you
You're arguing a particularly nasty straw-man. The idea that anyone who needs support is lazy and looking for a free ride IS BULLSHIT. Most people who get government assistance DO work, but are for a MULTITUDE of reasons unable to make ends meet. Those people DO pay taxes, just like you, though most likely it is a much LARGER burden on them because of how little they make compared to what they pay, even in sales tax alone. The MAJORITY of people on assistance stay on it for only a short period of time, and then, thanks to that assistance, are able to get back to work, and back to contributing to society, and paying back in to the system. You aren't paying for other people, you're paying for yourself in case something happens.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Lynnch]
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And yet, using healthcare as an example, they fucked millions of people who had healthcare. The system they chose has clearly demonstrated that big government is incapable of managing much of anything.
The more power given to them, the more they take beyond what people would want. You look to those who caused the problems to solve the problems.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: Jesus fuck, thats what I dislike about political threads. You leave for 2 hours and you come back to 100 replies.... How can I possibly catch up to the convo...
By reading.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said: And yet, using healthcare as an example, they fucked millions of people who had healthcare. The system they chose has clearly demonstrated that big government is incapable of managing much of anything.
The more power given to them, the more they take beyond what people would want. You look to those who caused the problems to solve the problems.
They "fucked" millions of people with a shitty insurance policy.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Ah yes, the current talking point.
Got any thoughts of your own?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Lynnch]
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So, to bring the thread full circle, THAT is why I think the republican party is a joke. They run on the idea that government is bad and spends too much, all the while still taking their paychecks, perpetuating the system, and of course, allowing spending for the things they want. It just comes off as hollow. Wouldn't it be better if they used their time and power to affect positive change to the country instead of creating this self-fulfilling prophecy that government doesn't get anything done? Whatever you come up with, we DO have government for a reason. Everywhere you look there is some kind of government program in effect that you totally rely on without thinking twice about. I think it would be better if Republicans accepted this, and joined in on solving the problems of our society instead of refusing to acknowledge that they have ample power and resources to do so. It would have been better if republicans had presented an alternative healthcare bill.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Lynnch]
#19193408 - 11/26/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: And yet, using healthcare as an example, they fucked millions of people who had healthcare. The system they chose has clearly demonstrated that big government is incapable of managing much of anything.
The more power given to them, the more they take beyond what people would want. You look to those who caused the problems to solve the problems.
They "fucked" millions of people with a shitty insurance policy.
I had an insurance policy I was perfectly happy with. It was better than what I hear is being offered now. In 35 days it will be gone. Way back many years ago I learned in Poli Sci that the only person who can say what is in your interest is you. I'll be the person who decides if my insurance is shitty, not some bureaucrat cunt or knowitall kid who has never paid a bill in his life.
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luvdemshrooms said: Actually, they are quite different. When a community bands together it's because they wish to do certain things willingly, whereas a government doesn't very often give a fuck what you or the community wants. You'll do it or face the consequences.
a representative government made up of individual people who very much give a fuck what the people who vote for them want.
There is not one shred of evidence to support this.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Lynnch]
#19193415 - 11/26/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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They are. Just not in the way you would like. On fiscal matters I'm glad they are trying to stop as much spending as possible.
A sharply divided government is what we need, what we have, what was intended and hopefully... what will remain.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: zappaisgod]
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There is not one shred of evidence to support this.
And a great deal of evidence to the contrary.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19193435 - 11/26/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Got any thoughts of your own?
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Yup. I've been expressing them throughout the discussion.
So you have none. That's a shame.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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They are. Just not in the way you would like. On fiscal matters I'm glad they are trying to stop as much spending as possible.
There is not one shred of evidence to support this, either. Bush was no conservative.
Lynnch seems to be laboring under the misapprehension that a nation of 300 million people is somehow a community with common interests. It most certainly is not. That was why we had states. States and counties and cities and towns and neighborhoods. I can go 5 miles in any direction except South (Ocean) and find a community whose interests are vastly different from my community's, whose interests are not always mine. Government is best left local except for the necessary big things. This clusterfuck of a meddling federal government imposing its inept will on each and every person is an abomination. There is not one single reason why they should be involved in this health insurance clusterfuck.
As to Patlal's absurd notion that is expressed in the title of this thread I offer this rebuttal.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/republicans-2014-midterms-cnn-poll-100386.html
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With just a 2-point lead, the GOP edges out Democrats 49 to 47 percent among registered voters in the 2014 generic ballot for Congress, according to the CNN/ORC poll, which asked voters whether they would vote for the Democratic or Republican in their district, without mentioning specific names.
Note the CNN spin of just a 2 point lead. How you like me now? I never fail to get a chuckle out of Canadians who think they know a fucking thing about the United States. Except when I pity them.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: zappaisgod]
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Polls are polls.
I'm waiting for the result
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mush4Brains]
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The more power given to them, the more they take beyond what people would want. You look to those who caused the problems to solve the problems.
They "fucked" millions of people with a shitty insurance policy.
Yes, cause a 30 year old gay man needs maternity coverage . I must admit, the schadenfreude from watching these fucks spin like tops to cover their lies is so good it's fattening.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: setb]
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: setb]
#19193508 - 11/26/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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30 year old males aren't getting maternity coverage.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: setb]
#19193513 - 11/26/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, cause a 30 year old gay man needs maternity coverage . I must admit, the schadenfreude from watching these fucks spin like tops to cover their lies is so good it's fattening.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Juicin]
#19193620 - 11/26/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The demographics of the party are terrible. They do poorly among young people, women, and minorities. Their only reliable demographic voting block is older white men. They may win the legislature back in the short term, but their policies turn off the majority of the nation. And the Rand Pauls and Mitch McConnelsl of the world will be ridiculed into insignificance.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/11/20/ted_cruz_vs_cnn_anchor_on_obamacare_i_appreciate_your_trying_to_lecture_me.html
like this, lol
I agree with the demographic argument. I've posted on here before that every election cycle, the American electorate gets %2 less white. There is no way they can sustain themselves as a party of white men, their wives and their widows. In marketing terms, they have to re-brand themselves. I think their only chance is to stay to the fiscally conservative side (but not as much as now), while dumping most of the social conservative agenda. You can be against crime, but which crimes. They have already lost the culture war, but that wing of the party can not accept this. It would take about 20 years to make the shift. Until then, the Dems keep the Presidency and the Senate.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19193652 - 11/26/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Perhaps you should look into the "standards" of oabamacare.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: setb]
#19194014 - 11/26/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Perhaps you should look into the "standards" of oabamacare.
Maternity coverage is mandatory, yes. That doesn't mean men are getting maternity coverage, simply that they are paying for women's maternity coverage as part of their premiums.
This is super basic shit, and if you can't get this right, than why would I ever trust anything you say?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Patlal] 1
#19194258 - 11/26/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't support fascism.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: mindgnome]
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then why do support the Federal Government taking over the healthcare industry. Why do you like handouts to energy companies (Fisker, Solyandra) and Auto companies being 'owned' by the government. that's the very definition of facism.
And why do you support Big Nanny Government Up Your Ass trying to tell you how to live your life? what to eat, think, and breathe?
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Mush4Brains said: 30 year old males aren't getting maternity coverage.
Perhaps you should look into the "standards" of oabamacare.
Maternity coverage is mandatory, yes. That doesn't mean men are getting maternity coverage, simply that they are paying for women's maternity coverage as part of their premiums.
This is super basic shit, and if you can't get this right, than why would I ever trust anything you say?
Are you just deliberately misunderstanding what I am saying? Why should a 30 year old gay man or a 60 year old woman be forced to pay for maternity coverage? Read it again: why should people that will never have babies be forced to pay for coverage they don't need?
If you want maternity coverage, get a plan that covers it.
Paying for coverage that you will never use makes your premiums unnecessarily expensive, which shows that dear leader blatantly and repeatedly lied about people's costs going down. Costs are going way, way up. Massachusetts does the same crap, which is why their pre-Obamacare premiums were the highest in the nation. Their plans are full of crap most people don't need and will never use.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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luvdemshrooms said: You should read more. Conservative politics seem to be on the upswing in many countries.
Like what? The Golden Dawn party in Greece?
The richest nations in the world all employ socialism. Is that a coincidence? They all just lucked out even though the entire premise of the system is a failure?
Fact is, jobs ate disappearing and will continue to do so. This isn't the frontier anymore, and when the means of production fall into fewer and fewer hands, it's kinda hard to tell people to go out and produce. The world is too small for capitalism anymore.
just gotta wait till the rest of the world comes to get their debts repayed to them by force.
Yeah right.
If you're hinting at China, theyd much rather have us as a trade partner than a war adversary, regardless the cost.
Yeah, this is why they are making increasingly aggressive moves such as sending spy ships to Hawaii and extending their airspace uncomfortably close to Japan.
This is also why they stopped buying our debt and are trying to get other nations to trade in their currency.
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Re: Is the Republican party turning into a joke/rapidly losing popularity? [Re: setb]
#19196066 - 11/27/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How do you think we would react if China took a prominent role in Latin American affairs?
You can't blame the Chinese for telling us to get the fuck off the Asian continent. Or for wanting to put the Japs under their thumb. And the japs should feel lucky the Chinese haven't decided to exact all to deserved retribution on them.
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