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fast food economics
    #19191125 - 11/26/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Let's say a mcdonalds has a revenue of 5 million per year. After all expenses are taken care of (employee/managers pay, food, electricity, maintenance, etc) approximately how much of that 5 million is left over?

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Re: fast food economics [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19191135 - 11/26/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I believe McDonald's has a profit margin of 20% (If I remember correctly. So 1 million.

EDIT: Actually, nothing should be left. But at the end of the year, they should have a revenue of 6 million.

EDIT #2: It would be responsible for them to keep 500k in cash. Just in case.


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Re: fast food economics [Re: Patlal]
    #19191140 - 11/26/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I believe McDonald's has a profit margin of 20% (If I remember correctly. So 1 million.

EDIT: Actually, nothing should be left. But at the end of the year, they should have a revenue of 6 million.



That's a fuckin lot if you think about it.


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Re: fast food economics [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19191143 - 11/26/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This will definitely vary based on location, but perhaps a rough idea would be to look at what McDonalds grosses, as a corporation, and then compare this to actual revenue--than extrapolate to a single franchise.

In 2012, McDonalds grossed about 27.5$bil, with a total revenue of about 5.5$bil. Therefore, about 20% profit.

20% of 5$mil would be a cool 1$mil.




But yea, this may have no actual bearing on real life. Planning on opening up a franchise are we?


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Re: fast food economics [Re: Patlal]
    #19191145 - 11/26/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: fast food economics [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19191150 - 11/26/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I believe McDonald's has a profit margin of 20% (If I remember correctly. So 1 million.

EDIT: Actually, nothing should be left. But at the end of the year, they should have a revenue of 6 million.



That's a fuckin lot if you think about it.




Yes it is a lot and it is why fast food companies are criticize for not paying their employees more. I have heard that if they doubled the salary of every employee in the business, the Big Mac would only cost 69 cents more to the customer or something like that. No a big deal.


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Re: fast food economics [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19191152 - 11/26/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I believe McDonald's has a profit margin of 20% (If I remember correctly. So 1 million.

EDIT: Actually, nothing should be left. But at the end of the year, they should have a revenue of 6 million.



That's a fuckin lot if you think about it.



Last I knew the franchise fee to open a McDonalds was a cool 1 million, and that was years and years ago. Those places do a lot of business. I've never heard of one closing due to lack of sales.


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Re: fast food economics [Re: Patlal]
    #19191154 - 11/26/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe not to you but baby if i had that 69 cents i'd have a stew goin


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Re: fast food economics [Re: Patlal]
    #19191205 - 11/26/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Quote:

luvdemboomers said:
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Patlal said:
I believe McDonald's has a profit margin of 20% (If I remember correctly. So 1 million.

EDIT: Actually, nothing should be left. But at the end of the year, they should have a revenue of 6 million.



That's a fuckin lot if you think about it.




Yes it is a lot and it is why fast food companies are criticize for not paying their employees more. I have heard that if they doubled the salary of every employee in the business, the Big Mac would only cost 69 cents more to the customer or something like that. No a big deal.



Even a couple of dollars would make a big difference to employees. Hell even one dollar... 8.25 vs 7.25


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Re: fast food economics [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19191217 - 11/26/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemboomers said:
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Patlal said:
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luvdemboomers said:
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Patlal said:
I believe McDonald's has a profit margin of 20% (If I remember correctly. So 1 million.

EDIT: Actually, nothing should be left. But at the end of the year, they should have a revenue of 6 million.



That's a fuckin lot if you think about it.




Yes it is a lot and it is why fast food companies are criticize for not paying their employees more. I have heard that if they doubled the salary of every employee in the business, the Big Mac would only cost 69 cents more to the customer or something like that. No a big deal.



Even a couple of dollars would make a big difference to employees. Hell even one dollar... 8.25 vs 7.25




McDonald's could easily position themselves in a situation where people want to work there instead of having to work there. They would get better candidates for sure.

One thing that I admire though is that Most McDonald's are run by a bunch of teenagers working their first job and yet the restaurant still manages to operate properly. The kids are alright


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Re: fast food economics [Re: Patlal]
    #19191270 - 11/26/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's because they've boiled down the vast majority of day to day tasks to simply pressing a button (generally colour coded and labeled) to start a timer, and then waiting for the beep to signal your move on to the next step/button.


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Re: fast food economics [Re: Patlal]
    #19191331 - 11/26/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do your due diligence OP.  This is what I do for a living (capital finance planning and capital raises) and I can tell you that $1 million isn't going to cut it.


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Re: fast food economics [Re: mpd]
    #19191443 - 11/26/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is going to be far too complex for a community of users who obviously don't even know what revenue is :wink:


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Re: fast food economics [Re: koraks]
    #19191449 - 11/26/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Then, there's that...


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Re: fast food economics [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19191510 - 11/26/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I believe McDonald's has a profit margin of 20% (If I remember correctly. So 1 million.

EDIT: Actually, nothing should be left. But at the end of the year, they should have a revenue of 6 million.



That's a fuckin lot if you think about it.



Last I knew the franchise fee to open a McDonalds was a cool 1 million, and that was years and years ago. Those places do a lot of business. I've never heard of one closing due to lack of sales.





Mcdonald's retired from Bolivia  because they couldnt compete with the local food sellers.

Which i find really nice, the victory of the local economy versus the transnational industry. Way to go bolivians


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Re: fast food economics [Re: Amphibolos]
    #19191525 - 11/26/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why couldn't they compete? Can you tell us some more about it in terms of segmentation and cost profiles? Because it wouldn't be very good if the local economy turned out to be producing food in an even less ethically sound and sustainable way and that way beat McDonalds.


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Re: fast food economics [Re: koraks]
    #19191540 - 11/26/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hm, 3 seconds of googling actually suggests that Bolivians to like their fastfood and that some of that is actually peddled by the well-known brands. So much for the local economy beating the evil corporations huh?
http://ain-bolivia.org/2012/01/mcdonald%E2%80%99s-left-bolivia-in-2002-fast-food-still-abundant-on-city-streets/


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Re: fast food economics [Re: koraks]
    #19191559 - 11/26/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It was mainly due to a cultural aspect of Bolivians, where it is believed all meals should be prepared with love, dedication, certain hygiene standards and proper cook time--not only are meals in Bolivia expected to be prepared with care and attention, ingredients must be simple and healthy too.

Which, for obvious reasons, clashed with the McDonalds 'fast-food' model.


As for comparing the method of food production used locally in Bolivia, to the method used by McDonalds--a little bit more difficult to answer--but I would be highly surprised to find out that McDonalds functions more ethically and sustainably than a local food market.


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Re: fast food economics [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19191564 - 11/26/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh yeah, OP, page 11 of this pdf contains what you need to know: http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/content/dam/AboutMcDonalds/Investors/Investor%202013/2012%20Annual%20Report%20Final.pdf
They even conveniently split the franchise and McD's-operated restaurants.

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Read the link I posted. The hippie crack sounds sympathetic, but it makes no sense. There's plenty of fast food restaurants in Bolivia, just like in any other country that has ever come into contact with the concept of fast food.

My point is not that McD's would be superior to the local food supply in any specific way; I'm just stating that it's too easy to take a simplified factoid at face value and then connect all sorts of bullshit conclusions to it. Get down to the facts and then come back.


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Re: fast food economics [Re: koraks]
    #19191595 - 11/26/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was just mirroring what a quick search brought up--the existence of other fast food chains is kinda the final nail in the coffin for the theory, though.

Apparently, only McDonalds knows why McDonalds left Bolivia.


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