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California Mushroom * 1
    #19187194 - 11/25/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Habitat:
Found growing in southern California in a rich grassy yard near a sprinkler.

Gills:
appear to be a brown color, close in distance from eachother. Doesn't appear to be attached to the stipe.

Stem:
brittle, tan, appearing to be a darker greyish color.

Cap:
brown or greyish color. Conic or bell shaped almost.

Spore print color:
Have not yet done a spore print.

Bruising:
bruising darker, not apparent what color though. Don't think its purple.









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Re: California Mushroom [Re: MushroomMurrill]
    #19187274 - 11/25/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

were there any larger ones? it's not active for sure. growing in clusters or solitary?


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: TheShroomNinja]
    #19187323 - 11/25/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like an LBM to me :wink:
Could be Pan.foenisecii, were there any zonates on the caps when you picked it?


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: Charles The Bald]
    #19187347 - 11/25/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Charles The Bald said:
P. foenisecii




I agree with Panaeolina.


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: Ran-D]
    #19188037 - 11/25/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

not sure what you mean by Zonate by there is a weird blimish or change in texture at the top of the zap. Should I go ahead and eat these?


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: MushroomMurrill]
    #19188052 - 11/25/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Also should I let them dry out before I eat them? and how many should I try at first?


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: MushroomMurrill]
    #19188261 - 11/25/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Zonate caps have zones of different colors.  Panaeolus cinctulus and Panaeolus foenisecii often have zonate caps.

Not sure why you would want to eat them, as they will not get you high and some people report diarrhea after eating a lot of them.

But if you do eat them, consider cooking them, they taste better that way.


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19188348 - 11/25/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

spore print seems to be a greyish black.. Foenisecii is brown I thought?


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: MushroomMurrill]
    #19188968 - 11/25/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Can you show us a photo of the spore prints? It is sometimes difficult to tell the spore color unless the print is nice and thick.


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: suchen]
    #19191096 - 11/26/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It is small and thin so I may be seeing it wrong. but I cannot get a very good picture due to the lighting.


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: MushroomMurrill]
    #19191111 - 11/26/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There are 100% Panaeolina, the gills are way too brown at maturity and hte stem is not reddish enough for P. cinctulus.  Panaeolina in my are are not zonate till the hygrophanous cap starts to show, Panaeolus cinctulus are always zonate when young.


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: Byrain]
    #19191239 - 11/26/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They are Panaeolus, it was a mistake to make Panaeolina a separate genus.

For more information see http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14123739/fpart/all/vc/1


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19191253 - 11/26/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was not disagreeing with that, I would still consider it a good sub-genus though and very convenient to use, just as Anellaria & Copelandia are.

Edit:  Also, only 1 (Maybe 2?) out of three (?) described Panaeolina have also been described as Panaeolus...


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: Byrain]
    #19191277 - 11/26/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Copelandia is not a subgenus, it is it's own genus as it is more closely related to Psilocybe than to the rest of Panaeolus.

The species in Anellaria should also be in their own genus.


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19191281 - 11/26/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have any sources on this?


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Re: California Mushroom [Re: Byrain]
    #19191293 - 11/26/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wintersbefore & Genbank


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