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Eggtimer
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
#19190660 - 11/26/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How long have you been carrying it daily? Does that kind of stuff go bad ever?
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Enlil
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Yes, because it's her fault that employees violate company policy
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Patlal]
#19190663 - 11/26/13 07:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: WTF is a barbituate anyway?
Extremely common drug back then. ... Ludes are similar to, but not 'barbs'. Benzos have largely replaced most of them.
In the 1940s, military personnel were given "Goofballs" during WWII in the South Pacific region to allow soldiers to tolerate the heat and humidity of daily working conditions. 
Man I'd love to have a bottle of 'Reds" or Ludes laying around. ...
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: vinsue]
#19190668 - 11/26/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good luck....hate to hear people failing drug tests.
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EdibleStereos
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Fucking america, stealing your piss.
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DieCommie

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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil] 2
#19191070 - 11/26/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Yeah, make the poor lady feel bad for doing her job properly as he cheats on his drug test 
"Just doing my job" is never a satisfactory excuse for disenfranchising people from their human rights.
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
#19191146 - 11/26/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Working for that employer isn't a human right.
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DieCommie

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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
#19191166 - 11/26/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, but not having to live in fear of persecution because of your culture is.
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
#19191176 - 11/26/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not being able to work for that employer is not "persecution."
If you choose to behave in a way contrary to an employer's policies, you should work for another employer.
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DieCommie

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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil] 2
#19191188 - 11/26/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, but being fired simply because you smoked weed is persecution. Just because a company has a policy doesn't make it right and it doesn't preclude you from being persecuted.
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
#19191195 - 11/26/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Being fired for violating policy is not persecution either. Forcing an employer to keep paying someone even though they break policy would, however, be persecution.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
#19191197 - 11/26/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: No, but being fired simply because you smoked weed is persecution. Just because a company has a policy doesn't make it right and it doesn't preclude you from being persecuted.
It's in no way persecution and employers are free to set any rules they wish as long as said rules don't violate the law.
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DieCommie

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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
#19191199 - 11/26/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Being fired for violating policy is not persecution either. Forcing an employer to keep paying someone even though they break policy would, however, be persecution.
Nope. Again, just because they make it a policy doesn't make it right and it doesn't preclude persecution. In fact, much/most persecution is a matter of policy.
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DieCommie

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luvdemshrooms said:
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DieCommie said: No, but being fired simply because you smoked weed is persecution. Just because a company has a policy doesn't make it right and it doesn't preclude you from being persecuted.
It's in no way persecution and employers are free to set any rules they wish as long as said rules don't violate the law.
I'm talking about persecution and what is right. This has nothing to do with the law.
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
#19191207 - 11/26/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You and I disagree on this and probably always will.
I am all about freedom. The employee's freedom to do what he wants, and the employer's freedom to hire/fire/promote/demote whomever he wants for whatever reason(s) he chooses.
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Magicman69
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
#19191210 - 11/26/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You have nothing to worry about. The lab will test for metabolites of barbiturates and won't find any. I bet the lady who checked your test thought a faint line was a positive, when in reality any line recognizable what's so ever is a negative.
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
#19191212 - 11/26/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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And yet... it has everything to do with the law.
They can fire you for violating their rules. It is legal. It is not persecution in any way.
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DieCommie

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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
#19191218 - 11/26/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: You and I disagree on this and probably always will.
I am all about freedom. The employees' freedom to do what he wants, and the employer's freedom to hire/fire/promote/demote whomever he wants for whatever reason(s) he chooses.
Then you simply think they are free to persecute employees. Lets not pretend its something it isnt. Firing somebody for their culture and way of life that is non-job related is persecution. Its no different from firing somebody if they consume pork, have pre-marital sex, are gay or like a different sports team than you.
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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
#19191224 - 11/26/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't see it as persecution. I see it as choosing how one spends his/her money. If an employer wants to surround himself with mets fans, he should be able to do that. It might be a shitty business practice, but that's his choice to make.
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DieCommie

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luvdemshrooms said: And yet... it has everything to do with the law.
They can fire you for violating their rules. It is legal. It is not persecution in any way.
It has nothing to do with the law. The law does not define what is right, nor does it define what is persecution. The law only defines what the biggest armed gang in the land can kill or imprison you over.
Yes, it is legal to fire somebody for smoking weed. But that is completely irrelevant.
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