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Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics?
    #19190764 - 11/26/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

After longish-term use?

They were first prescribed to me around 5 years ago and I've been taking them off and on since then, this year mostly on. Now every time I try to stop I cannot sleep at all and begin to lose my mind in a surprisingly predictable course. It's incredible, but I actually seem to gain energy the longer I stay awake.

Not sure whether this is because I'm actually insane, or am just experiencing the effects of withdrawal.

I hate feeling weak and groggy all day. I sleep over 12 hours, and when I'm awake all I want to do is eat and smoke.

Also, I used to be a natural lucid dreamer and out of body experiencer but the meds have effectively blocked all my research into these areas.

Also, I don't have a psychiatrist to help me through this right now. My community nurse made an appointment for me last week but the doctor called in sick on the day I was meant to see him :shake: so now I have to wait another month.

Really, I just want to know if this is forever because its breaking my heart to live like this.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: onionterror]
    #19190900 - 11/26/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry if I'm not too helpful, I don't have much experience in this, but I've had to deal with other stuff.

-Try to get a hobby like playing a video game. Kill some time you would otherwise spend sleeping. LoL? WoW? Aion? Or get a gym membership. Get a job lol. I often can't wait to go to the gym then get to my comp to play video games after a nice workout

-try not smoking. You said you do a lot? See what a week would be like not smoking then a week smoking. Whatever week you feel better, try to keep it that way. I often got tired smoking too much and slept too much cuz all I wanted to do was smoke.

-if you really can't fall asleep, try pulling an all nighter, then fall asleep at a scheduled time the next day. keep an alarm clock at the same time every day, no more than 8h of sleep, no less. Your body will get used to the schedule and you will feel fully rested after a few days on schedule. You won't even need the alarm after a while. If you find it hard to stay awake after the alarm, try finding a cool app that requires you to do a puzzle and put the phone across the room far from your bed so you have to get out of bed to turn the alarm off.

-eat healthy, you are what you eat..? If that fits lol. If you eat good food you will feel god. If you eat mostly munchie junk you will have a sugar rush for a short while then feel like crap once its over.

I hope I helped. I used to smoke a lot and I really wasn't too different, but now I haven't smoked for 5 weeks, I've been hitting the gym more, eating healthy, and killing the rest of my time doing fun stuff. I feel much better not wasting a lot of time.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: onionterror]
    #19190958 - 11/26/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have never taken anti-psychotics regularly. But I have been in places where the majority of my peers were heavily sedated. And that's really what most anti-psychotics do from an outside perspective. And when people get off them the "highs and lows" of their demeanor return.

If it's been 5 years it's probably hard for you to imagine how you would feel without the meds. And it may seem like a good idea. But just remember there is a reason you started taking those in the first place. As some one who has always refused meds except when they were injected into my ass cheek, I can assure you there is no magic bullet to feeling good in the long term. And meds won't get you there, they just cover up your symptoms.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #19190967 - 11/26/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i bought some coconut water (gross tasting stuff) and  made some hemp milk i drank a little of each before bed, and i was waking up easier in the morning, im not sure which one did the trick, i suspect it was the coconut water, and that my electrolytes were all outa whack

so maybe try some coconut water or gateraid or something with electrolytes  :shrug:

as far as the drugs, it is indeed possible for some people to go off them, but takes a shitload of work (as they are a bandaid as opposed to a cure),

from supplementing with things your body is missing, or dosnt produce properly

cutting out things your body dosnt need (added sugar for one, sometimes even gluten and wheat, it all depends on the person, and if they have acute allergies and whatnot)

exercising regularly

sleeping on a schedule

and probably more things i cant think of


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19191196 - 11/26/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for all the replies, good stuff.

What you say about meds being a band-aid is very true. I used to sense a totally astonishing culmination to my symptons, like something wonderful was waiting just around the corner if I only kept searching. This process has been aborted and now I'll never get to see the end of the story. It's like they have not only failed to cure me, but also made it impossible for me to cure myself.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: onionterror]
    #19191803 - 11/26/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: Hygrocybe]
    #19193255 - 11/26/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I too have noticed my OBEs reduced to a minimum (once a month), when it used to be every night without fail because of Risperidal Consta. Interesting...

I don't know what to say about medication. I've been on and off for 5 years or so too. I kept / keep dropping it and going back to psychoactives and every time there is a setback, they say. The medication doesn't seem to be a bad thing to have on board but I have held ideas / theories in my head that it demotivates me and makes the world seem uninteresting, but there is a 50-50 chance this has just been the schizophrenia.

They tell me every time you sink back into the true psychosis there is minute cerebral damage that takes increasingly longer periods of time to regenerate or neuroplastize with every 'episode'.

They tell me I can recover but every time I stop medication or do drugs the recovery time goes up and up. It has been about 5 years total of on and off medication and on and off psychoactives with varying degrees of wellness inbetween.

Also if I had just taken the medication from the start and been done with it I apparently would have been well 3-4 years ago.

So apparently it does get better, thanks only to the brain's regenerative abilities, and the medication is supposed to stop the damage from occurring.

I think I might start listening to them. Lately things have been good... and I'm on an antidepressant and a regular injection.

If I were you try to think back to what you were like before it all hit and think you can go back there, but you have to do three things, cease all drugs, take medication, and wait.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: Hygrocybe]
    #19195189 - 11/27/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Hygrocybe said:
They will help you.




Some great information here, thanks for this.


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If I were you try to think back to what you were like before it all hit and think you can go back there, but you have to do three things, cease all drugs, take medication, and wait.




I hardly remember what I was like before all this, but I really don't think my personality was all that different. My parents thought I might be autistic (I'm not). It seems like schizophrenia is just an exaggeration of the person I've always been. What I'm trying to say is that the "symptoms" blend into my personality so much that I can't imagine myself without it. I had no idea until I went to a doctor for depression, then my whole character was deemed pathological.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: onionterror]
    #19198705 - 11/27/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not exactly long term, but six months. It took an extremely slow taper, lowering the dosage every two weeks.

No serious withdrawal symptoms.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: philopian_tube]
    #19198943 - 11/28/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19203273 - 11/29/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I've just been stopping them cold turkey like an idiot because I want them out of my system asap. Tried again the past few days and the same thing happened. First the insomnia, then the paranoia, then the non-stop crying, followed by visual disturbances. At this point I cave and take them up again.

I think I'm just going to wait until I see this doctor and see what he says about it. Maybe ask for a switch. My last doctor suggested Clozapine, but I was too worried about the blood thing.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: onionterror]
    #19203539 - 11/29/13 03:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Also worry about what clozapine might do to the heart, and, it's one of the strongest in the weight gain / hunger side effect category. It's also the most effective at treating schizophrenia out of all known antipsychotics...


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: circastes]
    #19203544 - 11/29/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Stopping cold turkey is a terrible idea, anything ranging from at least horrible nightmares, to seizures to a guaranteed relapse due to the dopamine receptors being sensitised by the antipsychotic's blocking effect and suddenly used again.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: circastes]
    #19203614 - 11/29/13 04:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've been on Clozapine for around 3 months now and it's so much more effective than other pharmaceutical anti-psychotics. The only side effects so far is hyper salivation and sedation.
I ordered Cannabidiol and I hope CBD will be enough for me to get off Clozapine cold turkey.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: onionterror]
    #19204046 - 11/29/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have to stop smoking and you won't spiral out of control over and over again.

Cannabis is a powerful plant.  Be careful.  And if your 'sanity' matters that much to you you will take a break and then not get into heavy use again.

I go through this too.

I've been on and off Haldol, zyprexa, geodon, fanapt, invega, risperdone.

What really works for my symptoms which are mainly voices and visual disturbances and sensations in and on the body is Clonazepam.  8mg of Clonazepam and I don't hear voices.  ?  Thats a little much but its what has worked so far...  Allot better than the antipsychotics for whatever it is that I am experiencing.

Serious try not smoking.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19205007 - 11/29/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why stop your Clozapine cold turkey? You'll probably have some seizures. Just taper it off, makes more sense.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: circastes]
    #19205229 - 11/29/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19205588 - 11/29/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Clozapine makes my brother sleep excessively. He lowered the dose considerably because of it.


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19206719 - 11/29/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, you're right about weed, but when I mentioned smoking I was thinking mainly of tobacco. I have been very good with the weed recently, haven't touched any in almost a month :smile:


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Re: Anyone successfully come off antipsychotics? [Re: onionterror]
    #19288136 - 12/17/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I see.  My bad!


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