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Shock and Awe
    #19190311 - 11/26/13 03:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Have you ever been shocked about an idea, a truth, or realization ?

how deep was this shock? Ever been completely and utterly mind-shattered?

Robert Anton Wilson shocked to the core, my previously unknown domesticated monkey brain early on in life and seriously altered the way I viewed the world and myself..leading to several mind-shattering realizations and events, the likes of which I can hardly write or speak of..because words cannot describe and would have Icelander and others screaming for evidence (I think those of you that are familiar with my posts may be keen on this :lol:)
alas, I attempt to anyway.
so what about you?  any event, idea, book, or whatever seriously shock and awe and what was it?


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: hTx]
    #19190336 - 11/26/13 03:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it happens:
sometimes gently like epiphany that destroys acres  of accumulated mental crap,
and sometimes like the falls of thor's hammer bending your metal to a new resistant shape like a tool to cut through humanity with a new purpose (whose purpose?).

in both cases the landscape is cleared and ideas are replaced.

you can try to keep the realm simple - close to recently cleared format, to enjoy the benefits of uncluttered thinking.

I hate it that the "americans" (thor's hammer wielders)usually move in and take over everything - makes you dream of the planes coming again.


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: hTx]
    #19190357 - 11/26/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Have you ever been shocked about an idea, a truth, or realization ?

how deep was this shock? Ever been completely and utterly mind-shattered?

Robert Anton Wilson shocked to the core, my previously unknown domesticated monkey brain early on in life and seriously altered the way I viewed the world and myself..leading to several mind-shattering realizations and events, the likes of which I can hardly write or speak of..because words cannot describe and would have Icelander and others screaming for evidence (I think those of you that are familiar with my posts may be keen on this :lol:)
alas, I attempt to anyway.
so what about you?  any event, idea, book, or whatever seriously shock and awe and what was it?





The tooth fairy completely rocked my world.  Don't ask for evidence or it may unrock. :hissyfit:


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19190360 - 11/26/13 03:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
it happens:
sometimes gently like epiphany that destroys acres  of accumulated mental crap,
and sometimes like the falls of thor's hammer bending your metal to a new resistant shape like a tool to cut through humanity with a new purpose (whose purpose?).

in both cases the landscape is cleared and ideas are replaced.

you can try to keep the realm simple - close to recently cleared format, to enjoy the benefits of uncluttered thinking.

I hate it that the "americans" (thor's hammer wielders)usually move in and take over everything - makes you dream of the planes coming again.




Nice backhand. :lol:


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Icelander]
    #19190669 - 11/26/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When i first realized everything was connected my life was changed forever. I dont know if this is a thors hammer or a gentle epiphany or any other of the infinite possibilities in a phrase...but i have never been the same.

This changed me drastically because i felt directly responsible to the universe for my actions. For the first time, i understood how fragile we are and how each little event and atom is directly connected. The future depends on these events.

I realized through analyzing myself that for survival we develop calluses or armor if you will, in response to "attacks". Poetically, physically and whatever way you wanna look at it. That being said, to this day i make sure to give off kindness, and love in general as my own contribution to "everything".

For example: A smile has energy. It increases the positive flow of energy in the recipient and the smiler :smile: so something as tiny as sharing a smile, can have a domino effect that spirals infinitely...just like not making eye contact with people you pass by in the street (the norm around my parts).

Also the lack of love in our society shocks me and scares me.


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Icelander]
    #19190677 - 11/26/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
it happens:
sometimes gently like epiphany that destroys acres  of accumulated mental crap,
and sometimes like the falls of thor's hammer bending your metal to a new resistant shape like a tool to cut through humanity with a new purpose (whose purpose?).

in both cases the landscape is cleared and ideas are replaced.

you can try to keep the realm simple - close to recently cleared format, to enjoy the benefits of uncluttered thinking.

I hate it that the "americans" (thor's hammer wielders)usually move in and take over everything - makes you dream of the planes coming again.




Nice backhand. :lol:




Wheres the tennis match? Im in! :grin:


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #19190721 - 11/26/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Fragile.

Let's just say that particular reality on that particular day was not a good mind blower. 



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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19190801 - 11/26/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cool song thanks lunar!

I must ask: what do you mean that reality wasnt a good mind blower?


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #19190816 - 11/26/13 08:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe when we ignore the red fags over many years, we shouldn't have done that.


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19190919 - 11/26/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Right on lunar! (assuming you meant red flags and not fags :lol:)


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #19190970 - 11/26/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

commie fags :sexymeow:


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #19190978 - 11/26/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My nephew plays tennis, me, just a racket


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19191056 - 11/26/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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My nephew plays tennis, me, just a racket




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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #19191068 - 11/26/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

glad you are in Awe


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19191311 - 11/26/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well we all know theres no a in we :cool:


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #19192212 - 11/26/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was listening so intensely last night that I heard another voice.  Can't remember what it said but it sounded mean.  Shocking, yes, as I was sober.  But what was the cause?  Did I dive so deep into the present that a piece of my thought process seemed to appear as a separate entity?  Not too awe inspiring but yeah, shocking to the core.


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Hobozen]
    #19193704 - 11/26/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No shock or awe ever...just realizing and continuing...the old paradigm never dies completely to us.


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #19193822 - 11/26/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: hTx]
    #19194399 - 11/26/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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hTx said:
Have you ever been shocked about an idea, a truth, or realization ?

how deep was this shock? Ever been completely and utterly mind-shattered?

Robert Anton Wilson shocked to the core, my previously unknown domesticated monkey brain early on in life and seriously altered the way I viewed the world and myself..leading to several mind-shattering realizations and events, the likes of which I can hardly write or speak of..because words cannot describe and would have Icelander and others screaming for evidence (I think those of you that are familiar with my posts may be keen on this :lol:)
alas, I attempt to anyway.
so what about you?  any event, idea, book, or whatever seriously shock and awe and what was it?




Honestly no book I've ever read has produced real shock and awe like a psychedelic or occult experience has.  Whenever I've read a "paradigm-shifting" book, I've always been in the prior mindset that was more-or-less ready for it.  :shrug:


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: deCypher]
    #19194419 - 11/26/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Words cannot describe, yet Wilson's words were shocking to the core.  :gooby:


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Hobozen]
    #19194424 - 11/26/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Don't forget to reread Twilight to recharge your batteries.


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: deCypher]
    #19194430 - 11/26/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My batteries could use some recharging.  Might have to look into that.


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Hobozen] * 3
    #19195101 - 11/27/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I hooked up my nipples to elmore leonard e-books, constantly charging.


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: deCypher]
    #19195163 - 11/27/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The Castaneda books and then Denial of Death both were a form of S and A...


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Icelander]
    #19195181 - 11/27/13 06:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

shock and awe - that's like a meditation retreat where the group leader carries a tazer


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: eve69]
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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Hobozen]
    #19199477 - 11/28/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

only facts do some effects on present being

like for me, the truth being negative end is something I know being the main reason of my deep pessimism

wrong is above right, it is a fact forever

because truth known must be always the base of freedom superiority senses, so lies and truth abuse would always be the fact of life

so it means that when positive thing, like truth, is the first then second so existence constant reality, would be through negative powerful force

only then if the start is negative that through illusions it could be through inventing positive

the fact that first thing positive is truth, it means that it is impossible to delete

truth even though it is for always negative source, it is still the fact absolutely

like we cannot invent anything, or what existence is only the knowledge of what is really present constant. like matters presence to not confuse with personal needs or conscious wills..
so truth is something that always must be recognized and pointed, for clarity when truth exist or when existence is true

so it is a vicious circle and infinite inferiors powers for ever

but it should not concern us, right conscious beings as nothing, we are mortals and we should die forever

like words are nothing that matter but negatively, look how good words meaning clarity are abused and source of others living lying words

only facts matter, words about facts is only possible because all is evil life

so to mean freedom superiority so to mean its own being we have nothing else but to realize ourselves in words, to keep escaping the fact
while it is wrong to keep meaning everything to get out from a second


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: absols]
    #19199499 - 11/28/13 06:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Upper limits do not sense being truth without many responsible limits as confused trying never comes down to seeing responsible truth.

Life some and then over but never tells some secrets to many others. When all is not going then will we be secret to ourselves never but with all truth of being.


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Icelander]
    #19199562 - 11/28/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

this is sold in the market for obvious lies

what is said truly is immediately deformed in its own reality, those words are nothing who says the words honestly is the something, but of course the person is pointed as being nothing and honesty as being something to invest for new world .. which is completely absurd !

truth is for clarity conscious, its effect is positive freedom and not powers force increase on all for new creation

anyway the point you meant is a lie, hundred percent, it is the opposite mean in all the fact

like what you do in life alone right is objectively around you clearly because of truth, all their means is to kill that fact and force everyone on slavery..so the results of truth cannot be

when you act right by giving something to the fact you are through, the result show that truth exist, you are a plus and more independent

and how talking about anything personal to the freedom being alone, is something that would benefit him or any other... is the abject lie

it means to sell a truth by killing it

in truth you must be honest hundred percent, and this need times for anyone and it is not the business of any force nor anyone else

any individual is trying spontaneously to be its best out of what he knows, this is normal and it is due to the same fact of being a plus

it is the value of reality that everyone real knows

they are selling the truth for lies and for absolute powers on bodies

they are dividing existence in two what rule so free and what is real so must be slave consciously

and they didn't invent that either, they reverse the normal value
for more dirty opportunity

the normal value, is free for individuals giving to truth
realities ties for free wills

they achieve to end existence in absolute evil fact

so what enjoy being existing is free as true existence in powers for ever
and who doesn't invent anything is forced to worse hells forever as powers are different entities by abusing existence rights, so would be enslaved by different ways as a conspiracy, they agree on that to do on beings and they are meaning now to clarify their life ways together the eternals in powers


it started on animals, the pleasure in destroying its peace right its value, to force to an extreme and then kills it in the most criminal ways

then it extended on humans and now it is the objective truth before everyone


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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: Icelander]
    #19199617 - 11/28/13 07:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Upper limits do not sense being truth without many responsible limits as confused trying never comes down to seeing responsible truth.

Life some and then over but never tells some secrets to many others. When all is not going then will we be secret to ourselves never but with all truth of being.






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Re: Shock and Awe [Re: absols] * 1
    #19199696 - 11/28/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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this is sold in the market for obvious lies

what is said truly is immediately deformed in its own reality, those words are nothing who says the words honestly is the something, but of course the person is pointed as being nothing and honesty as being something to invest for new world .. which is completely absurd !

truth is for clarity conscious, its effect is positive freedom and not powers force increase on all for new creation

anyway the point you meant is a lie, hundred percent, it is the opposite mean in all the fact

like what you do in life alone right is objectively around you clearly because of truth, all their means is to kill that fact and force everyone on slavery..so the results of truth cannot be

when you act right by giving something to the fact you are through, the result show that truth exist, you are a plus and more independent

and how talking about anything personal to the freedom being alone, is something that would benefit him or any other... is the abject lie

it means to sell a truth by killing it

in truth you must be honest hundred percent, and this need times for anyone and it is not the business of any force nor anyone else

any individual is trying spontaneously to be its best out of what he knows, this is normal and it is due to the same fact of being a plus

it is the value of reality that everyone real knows

they are selling the truth for lies and for absolute powers on bodies

they are dividing existence in two what rule so free and what is real so must be slave consciously

and they didn't invent that either, they reverse the normal value
for more dirty opportunity

the normal value, is free for individuals giving to truth
realities ties for free wills

they achieve to end existence in absolute evil fact

so what enjoy being existing is free as true existence in powers for ever
and who doesn't invent anything is forced to worse hells forever as powers are different entities by abusing existence rights, so would be enslaved by different ways as a conspiracy, they agree on that to do on beings and they are meaning now to clarify their life ways together the eternals in powers


it started on animals, the pleasure in destroying its peace right its value, to force to an extreme and then kills it in the most criminal ways

then it extended on humans and now it is the objective truth before everyone




Bop bop shuey op  ay ay oi.  E sonk conk alue.  :thumbup:


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