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k00laid
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it always makes me sad when someone is discounted simply by the amount of words they use.
illiteracy is no laughing matter
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Yeah i have a tendency of rushing through something when reading it.
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akira_akuma
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LittleDipster said: Akira, you are way too easy to troll. I made a simple half sarcastic comment in someone's thread and you go on a multiple page outburst, then make your own thread to cry in for 10 pages about how you don't even know what you're talking about.
LOL, that's what this thread is about. i thought it was about telling people who think things that are obviously wrong, and telling them to get it straight before they open their yaps.
see, i knew this thread would still be here. good. you guys still need your lessons.
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Everlong said: Your run on sentences drive me nuts.
looks like someone's getting annoyed by words on the internet.
PS: stateofmind, don't worry about it. i've got my detractors, and shit; i'm used to it.
but boy, people who don't understand how dr00gs work, are some pretty... well, lets just say, they should be doing drugs dr00gs with their lack of understanding.
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teamkiller
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but you're the one who is wrong.
as i've stated before there is still alot of mystery in how drugs work, and how mental problems work.
If professionals who devote their lives to these questions don't have definitive answers, why do you believe you do?
akira u know i love you, but you're totally just making shit up.
i wasn't going to comment, but someone earlier said they read i study saying psychedelics don't cause mental problems. In my own life i've seen people go from fine to seriously delusional in the span of one trip.
i've never seen anyone have permanent problems from weed, but i've seen bizarre weed freakouts where the people decided it "must have been laced with pcp" which we all know doesn't happen.
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akira_akuma
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: teamkiller]
#19205121 - 11/29/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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professionals DO have the answers and the answers are that there is no definitive link between Marijuana "causing" mental conditions, it's just a plain fact. if you want, you can read the part of the thread where i put up the data regarding the subject.
NO CAUSE FROM WEED. just EXACERBATION of PRE-DISPOSED conditions... even the only user who posted in here WITH any apparently mental disorder (as he states it himself) agrees with the oh so obvious findings.
whatever, this isn't my battle anymore. i've provided the facts, it's up to the rest of you to determine for yourselves, from the facts that freely available for your viewing at any time. you guys can keep arguing, i've already given you the assessments, proof, and arguments to settle. there is no more... i can't just keep repeating myself, hoping that you or whoever can understand the facts of PRE-DISPOSED genetic genetic conditions, and personality disorders. that's what everyone is arguing about here (other then the completely ludicrous "Marijuana Withdrawal" argument, which i also put it in it's place; Withdrawal DOES NOT = AFTER EFFECTS)
there is simply no connection... because of Marijuana's "hallucinogenic" properties, it's clearly indicated by doctors and even "weed guru's" alike, that if you suffer from any pre-eminent mental condition or personality disorder, that you should cease all use immediately because Marijuana can increase the symptoms and effects of said disorders; which the user ALREADY HAS.
but it doesn't "GIVE YOU THE DISORDER OR CONDITION" though, because that's how the body, brain and the drug works.
it's so goddamn simple. (and people wonder why i have to type long winding sentences... because i have TO KEEP REPEATING THE OBVIOUS)
"i'm totally making shit up" - so i guess all the doctors who back me up with their obvious findings, they're making shit up too, right? but not you guys?
then provide me proof of your findings and i'll get back to you. until then, the fact remains that if you believe this nonsense then you're just going to get shot down and referred to the data which obviously proves my side of the argument.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19193258#19193258
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The Ecstatic
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#19205199 - 11/29/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Any proof the opposing argument has is simply conspiracy/irrelevant.
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akira_akuma
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"some dumbasses thought they got crazy, so we got a bunch of crazy people for our studies and we found that Marijuana can make you crazy; true story"
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: teamkiller]
#19205381 - 11/29/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: i wasn't going to comment, but someone earlier said they read i study saying psychedelics don't cause mental problems. In my own life i've seen people go from fine to seriously delusional in the span of one trip.
again, recent studies show no connection between psychedelics and mental disorders.
http://www.thelocal.no/20130822/no-link-between-lsd-and-mental-problems-say-norway-researchers
What you saw was more than likely psychosis. sometimes this psychosis is pervasive. sometimes it manifests as HPPD, which comes in a varying degree.
There are no known lasting physiological effects from LSD.
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: 404]
#19205418 - 11/29/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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ah yes, but wouldn't ANYONE qualify as being predisposed to any number of neurotic tendencies? and if psychedelics were to exacerbate certain tendencies, that would make anyone at risk of exhibiting any type of neurotic behavior. not that people don't anyway, even without drugs. in fact i happen to think there are more neurotic people who are non-drug users.
as for schizophrenia and psychosis or whatever, those are also exacerbated neurotic tendencies, just of an unusual sort which exhibits unusual behavior and perception. no biggie. you can get that from an LSD trip and they call it "mimicked psychosis" or something. if it's permanent then hey! you were predisposed to it anyway, get used to it. there wasn't really any way preventing it, because it was going to be expressed at some point anyway, at least now it won't be repressed.
schizophrenia is characterized by a dissociation of congruence in external stimuli.
there's a place for schizophrenics and it's not in the loony bin. it's in front of a computer.
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akira_akuma
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: teamkiller]
#19205432 - 11/29/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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it seems that people don't understand how weak-minded some people can be.
have you guys ever heard of serial murderer's or rapist's? or dictatorship? or the nuclear bomb? or Nanking? or any number of instantly recognizable names of words that would define a generation of killing, torture and massacre?
there is much worse things that people do and feel, that have nothing to do with drugs and everything to do with psychosis, thought disorder, and general insanity... so when you guys try and tell people that Marijuana "makes people crazy" or that psychedelics "can make you crazy", then you're really only justifying the course of action of most of the socio-political underpinnings in your lives, which control you and essential try to erase you.

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Envix said: ah yes, but wouldn't ANYONE qualify as being predisposed to any number of neurotic tendencies? and if psychedelics were to exacerbate certain tendencies, that would make anyone at risk of exhibiting any type of neurotic behavior. not that people don't anyway, even without drugs. in fact i happen to think there are more neurotic people who are non-drug users.
my point exactly^
if you take drugs and they exacerbate symptoms of thought disorders or any medical condition, you may be suffering from, that you should seek mediate attention and STOP using drugs.
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#19205483 - 11/29/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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this website isn't important enough to merit a shill.
nobody has or ever will give a fuck about this place when making any kind of policy, for anything.
...but that does sound like something shill would say
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akira_akuma
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: NWlight]
#19205782 - 11/29/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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honestly, i just heard people calling people shills in this PE thread and then i just called him out on "his shilliness" -- which by i just meant, "silliness", (play on words) regarding to that PE "I Hate Marijuana" thread that Little D was also in...
he kinda carried that argument to that thread i posted earlier in this thread... and you can see it right after the OP.
so i drug it back to him, the argument that makes more sense anyways.
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Bill_Oreilly
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akira_akuma said:
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LittleDipster said: Akira, you are way too easy to troll. I made a simple half sarcastic comment in someone's thread and you go on a multiple page outburst, then make your own thread to cry in for 10 pages about how you don't even know what you're talking about.
LOL, that's what this thread is about. i thought it was about telling people who think things that are obviously wrong, and telling them to get it straight before they open their yaps.
see, i knew this thread would still be here. good. you guys still need your lessons.
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Everlong said: Your run on sentences drive me nuts.
looks like someone's getting annoyed by words on the internet.
PS: stateofmind, don't worry about it. i've got my detractors, and shit; i'm used to it.
but boy, people who don't understand how dr00gs work, are some pretty... well, lets just say, they should be doing drugs dr00gs with their lack of understanding.
Just hit ignore.

bill
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Bitter Cactus
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OP go back to smoking green.. we miss you.
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akira_akuma
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Bill_Oreilly said: Just hit ignore.

bill
nah, i don't mind drawing this out.
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Bitter Cactus said: OP go back to smoking green.. we miss you.
i am smoking green.
why don't you guys just hide the thread? then you don't have to see it anymore.
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Bill_Oreilly
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The Ecstatic said: Any proof the opposing argument has is simply conspiracy/irrelevant.
We kick skills like Shaquille holds the pill Vocabulary skills, were ILL

bill
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Endure
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Bill_Oreilly said:
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The Ecstatic said: Any proof the opposing argument has is simply conspiracy/irrelevant.
We kick skills like Shaquille holds the pill Vocabulary skills, were ILL

bill
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Edited by Endure (11/29/13 10:33 PM)
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hidenseek1
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Endure]
#19206787 - 11/29/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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teamkiller
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: 404]
#19207084 - 11/30/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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StateOfMind404 said:
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teamkiller said: i wasn't going to comment, but someone earlier said they read i study saying psychedelics don't cause mental problems. In my own life i've seen people go from fine to seriously delusional in the span of one trip.
again, recent studies show no connection between psychedelics and mental disorders.
http://www.thelocal.no/20130822/no-link-between-lsd-and-mental-problems-say-norway-researchers
What you saw was more than likely psychosis. sometimes this psychosis is pervasive. sometimes it manifests as HPPD, which comes in a varying degree.
There are no known lasting physiological effects from LSD.
ur article is bullshit mate. i dunno maybe read it.
akira i love you so i'm not gonna argue with you.
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Shroomism]
#19213618 - 12/01/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomism said:
Psychedelics (mushrooms especially) have a MUCH HIGHER capability to trigger anxiety and panic attacks and psychosis 1,000x more than marijuana. ESPECIALLY in people predisposed to those conditions. Have your schizophrenic friend eat 6 grams and get back to me.
Do you realize that you pulled this straight out of your ass?
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