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anti-Marijuana Shills
#19189217 - 11/25/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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continued in http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19189683#19189683 "why do the weed tards never mention weed induces or can induce schizophrenic mindstates, causes depersonlization/ derealization, social anxiety, and a host of other mental disorders and withdrawl from using weed can lead to loss of appetite, sleeplessness, and irritability"

people on DRUG FORUM can't understand that all drugs have side effects, and that psychedelic drugs (especially) and otherwise, can cause PREDISPOSITIONS for other MEDICAL CONDITIONS to arise out of their use.
why do i even bother? my explanation of the 1: idiotic hypocrisy 2: the fact of drugs having side effects and 3: the fact of medical conditions being predisposed to occur in people with those conditions...
will simply go unheard, in lieu of retarded "in-fighting" and subjecting people to idiotic rhetoric about how THEY felt like they couldn't sleep or eat after smoking pot (DUH you get tired and hungry ON POT so AFTER POT you'd feel the opposite; it's called SIDE EFFECTS) or how they feel depressed, anxious or crazy on weed... BECAUSE YOU ALREADY ARE DEPRESSED, OR ANXIOUS, OR CRAZY!
can't you people get it through your skull?
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: k00laid]
#19189256 - 11/25/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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you take some thing (a hypothetical drug) that say... makes you anxiety-free and makes you hungry... when you take that drug in a regimented daily use... you get used to being hungry and feeling anxiety-free... now say you stop using this drug entirely... no matter what in waht universe in whatever time in history ever, no matter if this is science fiction, the writer is gonna get a block lobbed at his head; YOU'RE GONNA FEEL ANXIOUS AND HAVE LACK OF APPETITE. WHY?
because that's the SIDE EFFECTS of taking the drug that make you feel the opposite of those very things...
and what about madness, skitz, depersonalization...? THEY'RE MEDICAL CONDITIONS. NOT AN EFFECT OF THE DRUG.
you have anyone of those things, STOP TAKING THE DRUG; because you're already PREDISPOSED to having those ailments. it can't be put any fucking clearer.
AHHHH
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#19189270 - 11/25/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think you know what you're trying to say, but I sure don't.
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: fiddle]
#19189273 - 11/25/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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what do you know that i'm trying to say? tell me, i'm dying to know!
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Any substance is bad for certain people. The majority of people can use and abuse marijuana without a hitch. "social anxiety, loss of appetite, sleeplessness, and irritability" These are all very short lived, and unless you're a stoner you probably won't experience loss of appetite, sleeplessness, or irritability. None of these are potential hazards in the longterm. The point is: marijuana is extremely safe as far as adding substances to the body goes.
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#19189357 - 11/25/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
akira_akuma said:
what do you know that i'm trying to say? tell me, i'm dying to know!
What? I don't know what you're trying to say.
Is that a riddle?
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: dontknow]
#19189362 - 11/25/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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thank you.
now lets spread the word about Drug Side Effects and Latent Pre-Existing Medical Conditions so they can stop referring to these ideas as causation to bash, incite and rhetorically debate against Marijuana users.
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lets all post about bumholes instead.
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#19189441 - 11/25/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do people really rail against weed on here?
Haven't really noticed, except for maybe some of the tweakers and dopeheads with the drug superiority complex.
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it's the new in thing; see the "I Hate Marijuana" thread in Psychedelic Experience.
oh and the other marijuana thread in the Pub.
there is people that in their zeal, will constantly brign up and choose to deliberate about how "people here constantly tell others that Marijuana has no withdrawl and tell others that Marijuana doesn't cause Depersonalization, Schizophrenia and other mental disorders, when it does BRO"; when obviously no one says that Marijuana has "NO withdrawl" but that is has a "small set of side effects, that are barely harmful in the least" and that people who exhibit and express medical conditions such as Depersonalization and Schizophrenia, HAVE IT TO BEGIN WITH; because Marijuana (and other psychedelics like shrooms but lets not go there right?) can bring out these pre-existing medical conditions in people WHO HAVE THEM TO BEGIN WITH.
people see this arguement... think that it's all the rage, and think "hmm, i can appear smarter and edgy arguing for opposite!"
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: everyman] 7
#19189548 - 11/25/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Akira is obviously going through marijuana withdrawals.
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Everlong]
#19189558 - 11/25/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lols, to both of those posts. yes, i need to chill, and no i am not withdrawing; i've already withdrawn for a couple weeks now. but thanks for lightening the mood, i suppose.
this thread is still DEAD SERIOUS THOUGH.
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Quote:
akira_akuma said:
and what about madness, skitz, depersonalization...? THEY'RE MEDICAL CONDITIONS. NOT AN EFFECT OF THE DRUG.
you have anyone of those things, STOP TAKING THE DRUG; because you're already PREDISPOSED to having those ailments. it can't be put any fucking clearer.
AHHHH
There's not exactly shitloads of people that have psychotic dispositions that would be triggered by weed, it happens but very rarely, hardly enough to make a public statement on a site where plenty of people LIVES have been saved by medical marijuana. Also if weed triggers these psychotic diseases then so do mushrooms, lsd or any other form of psychedelic for that matter so why not say "you have anyone of these things stop taking ALL FORMS OF PSYCHEDELICS" Don't blame it on the weed you misinformed instigator
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are you fucking kidding me? i'm talking about those people as morons, and saying that ... oh nevermind... i'm gonna go cry in my arms, if you can't see that i am saying waht you are saying and trying to get people to realize that when people say that those things are "weeds fault and stoners should be more honest and admit that those things are prevalent", that they are overexaterating and they are wrong about what constitutes a medical condition and what constitutes an "effect of weed"... or the difference between "withdrawl" and "side effects".
can't you read the fucking thread?
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] 6
#19189612 - 11/25/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your posts are kinda hard to follow. I wasn't sure what your angle was until you agreed with my post.
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: dontknow]
#19189619 - 11/25/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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it takes line by line reading. not shroomery's "assume the position of the poster by skimming through his/her post" reading.
you can't see that i've quoted what some people have said, and i was responding to that? the first line in the OP is a quote, which i am directly responding to.
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Ah I see, you didn't make it to clear but I see what you're saying I hate misinformed crap spuuers like that so I only skimmed it lol. I agree with your cause, continue.
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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#19189626 - 11/25/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you are on a message board for drugs you are fucked.
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