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Noob wants to know "how does my reishi look?" * 2
    #19189163 - 11/25/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If it was possible to inoculate ganoderma to grain spawn with LC, then spawn it to sawdust/cardboard sub similar to spawning to bulk with cubensis. I know that you can do this with oysters to straw a la RR's video, but could something like this work for more than just oysters.

I have a ganoderma LC that I got from a sponsor (was kind of a bonus, but one I was hoping for :cool:)and I want to get started with it but I got two problems, one no tyvek sleeves (got the bags but no sleeves :tongue:) and two I do my work in a SAB, so I'm not sure if using bags without a flowhood is even a good idea. To be honest I'm a little intimidated by bags, if there is no other way then I will bite the bullet, I'm just a chickenshit :lol:

I have read about them being fruited off grains and bran in jars, is this noob friendly or recommended? Any suggestions or ideas are welcome.


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19189392 - 11/25/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Dude if you can grow cubes you can grow reishi.  Process is the same just like you said, LC --> grain spawn --> bulk substrate.  Only difference is your bulk substrate should be pasteurized fuel pellets (or sawdust, I find fuel pellets easier).  You don't really need to supplement and get all worried about sterility.  Reishi is a lot more contam resistant than cubes. 
Hell if you're afraid of bags do 'em in a monotub!  Actually, now that I think of it, reishi does pretty well on coir too.  So you could theoretically do them EXACTLY how you do cubes.  Unless you use poo...

Tyvek sleeves?  What the hell are those?! :wink:  If you have an LC syringe, you don't even need a SAB.


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
    #19189417 - 11/25/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Actually I saw a reshi monotub that you did that looked fricken boss. If you think I can do it as easy as LC>grain>Sawdust/Bulk then I am gonna just dive in and experiment. Thanks man!
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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #19189474 - 11/25/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Actually I saw a reshi monotub that you did that looked fricken boss. If you think I can do it as easy as LC>grain>Sawdust/Bulk then I am gonna just dive in and experiment. Thanks man!
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Hell yeah you can!  You gonna be using fuel pellets or what?

I'd go with like 3 jars at least for a pretty big monotub and you should be gold.


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
    #19189564 - 11/25/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I got some fuel pellets, was gonna do a mini mono to get my feet wet. Can't wait to give em a shot :awesomenod:


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19194585 - 11/26/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah I got some fuel pellets, was gonna do a mini mono to get my feet wet. Can't wait to give em a shot :awesomenod:




Let us know how it goes man, I wanna see pics!

Reishi in a mono is so easy.  "Bucket-tek" style works fine, true pasteurization shouldn't be necessary.  Boiling water on pellets has worked for me for a while now, for many species.  Spawn in open air at a decent spawn rate and you really shouldn't lose.


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
    #19210500 - 11/30/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nocked up a pint of rye this evening, was gonna just try to use it to G2G but now I'm second guessing that move. Can you G2G reishi? I've seen a few posts where people have tried it, but they never seemed to end well. If its not recommended I got plenty of jars that I can nock up at a moments notice. Pretty pumped about getting this grow off the ground.


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19211401 - 12/01/13 07:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You should be fine with G2G, just do it right AS SOON as it's fully colonized.  It gets thick really quick so a couple days late might be too late and you won't be able to break it up very easily.

People that had problems probably just weren't use to reishi and let it sit too long before they got to it...


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    #19212364 - 12/01/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Okay that's good to know, I usually don't let cubes sit too long unless I'm preoccupied with other projects, however I expect that in this case this will be the other project I'm preoccupied with :wink:


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19213122 - 12/01/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You said you have the problem of bags but no sleeves. Are you referring to placing a tyvek sleeve in a bag while PCing grain spawn so it doesn't accidentally seal and explode?

If so, there's a video online that shows how a guy uses pieces of an inexpensive tyvek suit he cut up for the same purpose. Just lost my job last week (company moved) so made a note of this as it's a way to avoid the cost of the sleeves. Hope this helps.

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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: ibakenoobcake]
    #19213158 - 12/01/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah that's pretty much the gist but really, I'm just so comfortable at the moment doing G2G with quarts and then spawning that I don't really feel like messing with a new step when attempting a new species. I will probably get bags going soon, already have them, just want to take it slow at the moment.


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19315807 - 12/23/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok so I did some G2G as well as a few agar plates for future inoculations and to do up a slant, just want to confirm a couple things. My G2G went extremely fast, this stuff is super aggressive. Receiving jars look like they have colonized already in 5 days with thin growth and are starting to thicken up. Is this the time to spawn or should I wait until its a thicker white. Also just want to be sure that this is indeed reishi myc as it don't look anything like I'm used to seeing with cubes, pans, and mexicana. They have definitely created a lot of heat in there, as can be seen by the condensation.



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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19316178 - 12/23/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That is looking good. Don't wait too long to transfer reishi as it gets really hard to break up once it thickens up.


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: pseudotsuga]
    #19316337 - 12/23/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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That is looking good. Don't wait too long to transfer reishi as it gets really hard to break up once it thickens up.




Was gonna prep sub tonight and spawn tomorrow :awesomenod:


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19337014 - 12/28/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well I think these tubs are looking good. All my 66 quart monos are full of projects already so I had to scale down to my 20 quart tubs. Ended up with a really high spawn ratio of 1:1 so hopefully that doesn't screw anything up. I must say that these things are fucking aggressive, 4 days in for the first tub and I'm debating on fruiting it tomorrow :lol: This will probably get me some flak but I sterilized my subs. I have a theory that anything that could be "bucket pasteurized" can be sterilized with no problems. I have done it a few times now with coir verm and it works fine (at least with cubensis). We shall see how it does here.

First tub, sterilized fuel pellets 4 days in.



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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19337178 - 12/28/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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This will probably get me some flak but I sterilized my subs. I have a theory that anything that could be "bucket pasteurized" can be sterilized with no problems.




I think you're probably right.  I don't think after the pellet manufacturing process and the amount of heat/pressure used that there's any beneficial organisms left in them, so pasteurize, sterilize, or "bucket-tek" it, I don't think it makes much difference.

Tubs are looking good!  High spawn ratio shouldn't do anything but help :thumbup:


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    #19351803 - 12/31/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Well the tubs look done to me and are in fruiting conditions. Got them sideways as it looked like you had some success doing it that way in your log. Lemme know if anything looks off.



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    #19351963 - 12/31/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Those look nice and healthy :thumbup:

You should be seeing fruits start to form fairly soon I imagine!


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    #19351991 - 12/31/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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    #19364863 - 01/03/14 06:18 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Not sure if its good or bad but I got something happening in my tubs for sure, and its happening fast.



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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19365122 - 01/03/14 06:59 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

That's what you call a really nice reishi pinset!  I haven't got one to look like that in a while, don't know if it's the cold here or what.

You're gonna have some nice fruits :smile:

I don't know if you've said already but what temps are you growing those at?  I'm gonna have to try me a super high supplementation rate!


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    #19365747 - 01/03/14 08:59 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Well they are in my basement which gets a little cool unfortunatly at times, especially in winter, so temps are fluctuating between 68 - 74. Glad to hear all looks well so far :super:


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    #19365764 - 01/03/14 09:02 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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Not sure if its good or bad but I got something happening in my tubs for sure, and its happening fast.





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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19365781 - 01/03/14 09:06 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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Well they are in my basement which gets a little cool unfortunatly at times, especially in winter, so temps are fluctuating between 68 - 74. Glad to hear all looks well so far :super:




Man, that ain't cold!  My bedroom fluctuates between 62-68, I guess that's why the reishi hates it, lol.  Yours is definitely liking the conditions, that's an ideal pinset for sure.


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    #19365789 - 01/03/14 09:07 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Thanks guys, I am super pumped about these!
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    #19365822 - 01/03/14 09:15 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

They look awesome!


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    #19366307 - 01/03/14 11:12 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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    #19368169 - 01/04/14 01:08 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Sweet grow.  I can't wait to see these fruits do their thing.  Be sure and keep this thread updated!  :smile:


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    #19368207 - 01/04/14 01:15 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

When my wife gets home with the camera I'll post some pics of the crappy pinsets and thin fruits I've been getting, to help show the awesomeness of what you've got there :smile:


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    #19368229 - 01/04/14 01:19 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

So pretty much what im gathering is you sterilized fuel pellets (sterilized, not pasteurized), inoculated with grainspawn. Once fully colonized you put the tote on its side?

Can the same thing be done with bags, and poking holes in it? Would the FC require high humidity?


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    #19368270 - 01/04/14 01:28 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

One tub was sterilized fuel pellets, the other tub was a mix of sterilized fuel pellets, coir and verm. The tubs are re-purposed from my cube grows, so they do hold pretty high RH.


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    #19368365 - 01/04/14 01:47 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

good stuff. So has the tub been altered?


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    #19368462 - 01/04/14 02:05 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Well its not really your typical cube monotub to begin with. Its a 20 quart tub, with a 1.5" hole drilled into each of the long sides above the substrate. It then has a series of 1/4" holes drilled into the upper sides. To help keep the RH high I only put poly into the bottom hole that was facing down when the tub was flipped over and the other one was left taped. Here is a shot of the top 1/4" holes. Excuse the cubes.



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    #19384948 - 01/07/14 08:39 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Well strange and crazed things are happening. Got some crazy discoloration/metabolites going on and the blobs are getting bigger. So far I think that the metabolites are normal, seems like I have seen pics of them in bags etc, just never seen ones like this. They are definitely stronger in the 100% fuel pellets tub.



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    #19384966 - 01/07/14 08:43 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Nice looking tub.  Looks like a hell of a grow you got going.


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    #19385080 - 01/07/14 09:05 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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Nice looking tub.  Looks like a hell of a grow you got going.



Thanks man! I am already dreaming of harvest. Got a few people in my life who could really benefit from these and they cost way to much in the health food store to even think of buying.


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    #19385478 - 01/07/14 10:14 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Holy crap dude I think you just answered my question of "does a really high spawn rate benefit reishi?"

That's it, I'm starting me up a monotub this weekend with 7 freakin' quarts of spawn.

Awesome grow.  I've never seen one with so much fruit.  :eek:

Can't wait to see how it comes along.  If you can manage to get them enough air I bet you can get some MASSIVE conks.


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    #19395725 - 01/09/14 08:06 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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    #19395935 - 01/09/14 08:58 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Holy crap dude I think you just answered my question of "does a really high spawn rate benefit reishi?"

That's it, I'm starting me up a monotub this weekend with 7 freakin' quarts of spawn.

Awesome grow.  I've never seen one with so much fruit.  :eek:

Can't wait to see how it comes along.  If you can manage to get them enough air I bet you can get some MASSIVE conks.




Glad my noobishness is paying off. However I can't bank on that forever :tongue: MASSIVE conks sounds pretty good to me :super:

Things are still moving, lot of metabolites in there. Starting to see some color on the blobs :smile: God I feel like such a noob :lol:



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    #19396238 - 01/09/14 10:20 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

One thing - watch out for that polyfill!  As soon as the fruits touch it they're going to grow into, and through it.  You'll never be able to get the damn polyfill out of the fruits.  Reishi isn't like other mushrooms that will just push up against it, they completely envelope it. 
Maybe you don't care about a couple fruits (you can still use 'em they're just a bit fuzzy), but they will grow all the way through the hole and form conks on the OUTSIDE of your tub if you don't do anything.  You wouldn't believe what reishi will do to get to air.


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    #19396302 - 01/09/14 10:35 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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One thing - watch out for that polyfill!  As soon as the fruits touch it they're going to grow into, and through it.  You'll never be able to get the damn polyfill out of the fruits.  Reishi isn't like other mushrooms that will just push up against it, they completely envelope it. 
Maybe you don't care about a couple fruits (you can still use 'em they're just a bit fuzzy), but they will grow all the way through the hole and form conks on the OUTSIDE of your tub if you don't do anything.  You wouldn't believe what reishi will do to get to air.




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    #19396317 - 01/09/14 10:37 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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    #19396346 - 01/09/14 10:44 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Eh, it's up to you - I'm OCD so I can't stand having a mess of fruits growing through polyfill.  It's not really a big deal, unless your winters up there are as dry as the sahara desert like they are here, then the out-of-tub conks might not be happy.  Also they might entirely block your air exchange.

When I did my sideways tub that's why I put the holes in the lid instead of the tub itself.  I know you were re-using tubs though...

Maybe plug up those holes and make multiple big-ass holes in the lid?  They'll still run into it eventually...  You could also ditch the lid and cover with clear painter's plastic with a bunch of x's cut into it, that's how I do my bucket reishi grows.  Just some ideas!

Tyvek would work but won't give much air - fine if you want antlers though :thumbup:


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    #19396528 - 01/09/14 11:29 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Which sponsor did you get the Reishi strain from PW?


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    #19397198 - 01/10/14 03:27 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

niceee.  i gotta get my reishi monotub going.  been procrastinating too long


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    #19403800 - 01/11/14 01:09 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Well I decided to remove the poly as it was already getting snared up, and re taped the holes. These tubs have a lot of FAE with the holes to begin with so how they perform without the large poly holes will give me a good indication of how to proceed with my next grow. The tub that was a mix of coir verm and fuel pellets definitely looks different from the just pellets tub. Less metabolites for sure in that one.

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Healthy looking blobs there.  :smile:


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    #19403817 - 01/11/14 01:14 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

That is an interesting comparison of the two different substrates!


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    #19403857 - 01/11/14 01:22 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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Healthy looking blobs there.  :smile:




Thank you :cool:

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That is an interesting comparison of the two different substrates!




Yes I now want to do some more tubs with just coir and verm. Does look like the ones in the pellets coir verm tub are a little thicker/heavier and it was a few days behind the other one. I wonder if the extra water held by the coir/verm is the reason? Regardless it will be interesting to see how it all plays out.


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    #19403887 - 01/11/14 01:31 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

It's hard to draw a conclusion based on just the two.  I have grown bags side by side with exactly the same sub and spawn rate and have had them look significantly different.
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    #19403937 - 01/11/14 01:43 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

I hear ya, cubensis can be quite unpredictable as well, even with an isolate little variables can make a big difference in how a sub pins,  fruits etc. I would want to run several variables and controls before I would make any real conclusions.


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    #19403941 - 01/11/14 01:43 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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It's hard to draw a conclusion based on just the two.  I have grown bags side by side with exactly the same sub and spawn rate and have had them look significantly different.




Good point, this is very true.

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Which sponsor did you get the Reishi strain from PW?




I was wondering this too - who's strain are you working with?


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    #19403947 - 01/11/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Got it from sporeworks, no idea if there culture is good or bad, it came as a freebe so I decided to run with it.


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:thumbup:  Workman has a prolific strain.


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    #19414632 - 01/13/14 09:41 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

Quick little bump.



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    #19414703 - 01/13/14 09:51 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

Oh yeah, spray 'em all you want, it won't hurt :thumbup:

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    #19414966 - 01/13/14 10:47 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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    #19423978 - 01/15/14 05:34 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

Well things are moving along. I'm liking the color, starting to look like candy corns to me :smile:

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    #19424702 - 01/15/14 08:26 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

nice!  didn't realize u had a thread on this, just saw a pic of it from u in another thread and figured it was a one time pic.

looks great!

also, don't know if u still wanna do bags or not (from the 1st couple posts on this thread), but i also had no tyvek sleeves, so i just cut a tyvek envelope to size and stuck it in the bag like the sleeve, folded accordion, rubber bands to hold it down, then plate on top, pc 2.5 hours, SAB G2G. works ok, but maybe b beginners luck for me with bags.







i hope the top grains didn't dry out, but just thought id chime in with that worked for me.
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    #19425416 - 01/15/14 10:50 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

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Well things are moving along. I'm liking the color, starting to look like candy corns to me :smile:





They really do look like candy corn sometimes!



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    #19426293 - 01/16/14 05:24 AM (10 years, 15 days ago)

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also, don't know if u still wanna do bags or not (from the 1st couple posts on this thread), but i also had no tyvek sleeves, so i just cut a tyvek envelope to size and stuck it in the bag like the sleeve, folded accordion, rubber bands to hold it down, then plate on top, pc 2.5 hours, SAB G2G. works ok, but maybe b beginners luck for me with bags.




Tyvek envelopes are pretty much non existant in Canada :sad:

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They really do look like candy corn sometimes!






Those really do look like candy corns for sure, cool shit :super:


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    #19435975 - 01/18/14 01:11 AM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Liking the way these are looking. I'm gonna guess that my FAE is too low, so I am preparing to see antlers eventually, but these suckers already got some nice mass, not even sure how you harvest these bad boys. Twist and pull sure ain't gonna work, but even the scissors I usually use don't look up to the task.





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    #19436002 - 01/18/14 01:19 AM (10 years, 13 days ago)

:justdontknow: good question. Seems like the cube method would destroy the coir/verm sub for sure. Maybe one flush per side (flip it over.maybe) is all you can get.

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    #19436635 - 01/18/14 07:13 AM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Honestly I was thinking about that earlier, with THAT many fruits across the surface harvesting is gonna be rough :lol:

You've got a while before you gotta worry about it though.

And even if they do have enough air lucidum likes to grow a stem first anyway so you may still get conks when it decides it wants to.  If there's not enough air for conks you'll get weird blobs with pores on them.


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    #19439042 - 01/18/14 06:02 PM (10 years, 12 days ago)

nice tub! puts all mine to shame:frown: next time more spawn and no chips
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    #19439285 - 01/18/14 06:57 PM (10 years, 12 days ago)

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Liking the way these are looking. I'm gonna guess that my FAE is too low, so I am preparing to see antlers eventually, but these suckers already got some nice mass, not even sure how you harvest these bad boys. Twist and pull sure ain't gonna work, but even the scissors I usually use don't look up to the task.









Because you are surface fruiting I would minimize FAE. When the antlers get to be around 3 inches tall open up the container and let the conks form on top. Harvesting will be a bitch if you don't.

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Because you are surface fruiting I would minimize FAE. When the antlers get to be around 3 inches tall open up the container and let the conks form on top. Harvesting will be a bitch if you don't.

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They probably gonna be a pain anyway but, I think I will giver a shot. :thanx:

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    #19439880 - 01/18/14 09:36 PM (10 years, 12 days ago)

Nice grow. Looks like you'll need a chain saw to cut the entire surface off that tub. Kick ass!


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    #19440199 - 01/18/14 10:53 PM (10 years, 12 days ago)

Thats what I did with these.  Had them in a container then pulled them out into open air.



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Thats what I did with these.  Had them in a container then pulled them out into open air.






Beautiful  :awepreciation:

What was the RH when you did that? Did you just fruit in open air, no chamber? The RH in my house is ridiculously low. . . I would like to giver a shot with at least one tub for sure however.


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    #19441358 - 01/19/14 06:56 AM (10 years, 12 days ago)

I have like 0% RH here in the winter too.  Constantly fighting with it!

With the sideways tub, if you just leave off the lid and replace it with a sheet of painter's plastic with a bunch of x's cut into it you can get pretty close to conks.  Just do lots of nickel-size x's and you can mist daily through one of them.  You can get a whole roll of the painters plastic for like $3 at home depot, or just use a clear trash bag.


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    #19441515 - 01/19/14 08:07 AM (10 years, 12 days ago)

I set them in an outdoor shelve covered in shade cloth. Inside got misted 3-4 times during a day.  probably around 70% humidity. They like to get rained on. I used to just open up the shelve and spray them directly with the hose. keeping the blocks low to the ground and keeping the ground around it and the mushrooms  wet usually does the trick.


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I set them in an outdoor shelve covered in shade cloth. Inside got misted 3-4 times during a day.  probably around 70% humidity. They like to get rained on. I used to just open up the shelve and spray them directly with the hose. keeping the blocks low to the ground and keeping the ground around it and the mushrooms  wet usually does the trick.


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Wish I could do that but the 2 feet of snow might hurt me in the long run :crazy2:

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    #19450359 - 01/20/14 10:40 PM (10 years, 10 days ago)

I'm a master of patience. Got a p allenii patch that I been waiting on for a year :lol: :strokebeard2:


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Forrester sent me over to check out this thread and boy I'm glad I did. I'm looking to start a reishi monotub my self and this is definitely an inspiration. Definitely some dense fruiting going on there. I'm definitely interested in seeing how they progress. good job! :thumbup:


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Forrester sent me over to check out this thread and boy I'm glad I did. I'm looking to start a reishi monotub my self and this is definitely an inspiration. Definitely some dense fruiting going on there. I'm definitely interested in seeing how they progress. good job! :thumbup:




Thanks man! I'm pretty happy with my first try at these. Hope I have similar luck with some other edible species I gonna try next. Today they is looking good IMO. Definitely starting to look like reishi to me :tongue:



Pondering when to up the FAE. Probably gonna just take some stretch wrap, tape it over the top and cut some slits in it.


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    #19473990 - 01/25/14 08:53 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

I have to give Ganoderma a try, hopefully mine will be as prolific a fruiter as yours.

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I have to give Ganoderma a try, hopefully mine will be as prolific a fruiter as yours.

Seems like you could just drill a few holes in the lid for FAE, be less hassle IMO.




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    #19474332 - 01/25/14 10:31 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

They're telling me they might like the air now, but I could be wrong.  Your culture behaves so much differently than the one I've worked with.

Maybe just try the stretch wrap on one tub, then you can tell which it liked better in the end?

Just an idea, I always try to learn as much as I can about a species from my grows and trying different things side by side is the best way, I think.


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
    #19474338 - 01/25/14 10:33 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

I was about to quit reishi for a while just because they like to make a mess in my greenhouse.  Don't know how I forgot about monos!  I'm about to start up some more but in mono's this time :smile:  And like eeryone else said that is a sweet looking culture! Is it a vendor source?


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #19474340 - 01/25/14 10:35 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

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I was about to quit reishi for a while just because they like to make a mess in my greenhouse.  Don't know how I forgot about monos!  I'm about to start up some more but in mono's this time :smile:  And like eeryone else said that is a sweet looking culture! Is it a vendor source?




Sporeworks IIRC, it's in the thread somewhere but I'm too lazy to look :wink:


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    #19474358 - 01/25/14 10:39 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

I love Workman's culture.  He nailed the reishi.


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
    #19474362 - 01/25/14 10:39 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

You are correct, I did get it from sporeworks and so far I like it. Still got lots as well. Thinking about knocking a master slant to keep it around, then doing some more grains and trying to see how well it does on a plain old coir verm sub.


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    #19474371 - 01/25/14 10:41 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

Most definitely slant it.  If you don't you will wish you did.


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    #19474381 - 01/25/14 10:42 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

Got a few already made up :awesomenod: will inoculate tomorrow.


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19475520 - 01/26/14 07:01 AM (10 years, 5 days ago)

awesome pasty!!
u guys and ur slants....i need to catch up!!
just received mine from SW yesterday evening and already worried bout not having long term storage options... this makes me even more adamant about ordering them...
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Most definitely slant it.  If you don't you will wish you did.




do u guys do the addition of a woodchip in ur slants, like the RR video, or no?  if so, is that wood chip hydrated/prepared/sterilized in any special way?


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19475549 - 01/26/14 07:08 AM (10 years, 5 days ago)

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do u guys do the addition of a woodchip in ur slants, like the RR video, or no?  if so, is that wood chip hydrated/prepared/sterilized in any special way?




I use those wooden coffee stir-sticks they have at the local grocery store.  I just boil them for a little while and leave 'em in the pan to hydrate while I'm mixing up my agar, then put in the slant with my agar mix and PC as usual.  Kinda curious if anyone else does it differently...


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
    #19475556 - 01/26/14 07:12 AM (10 years, 5 days ago)

do u break them up to smaller pieces beforehand?  i guess i mean, what size are we shooting for here? 1-3"?  prepped in the same way forrester describes, whether its a coffee stirrer or a BBQ chip?


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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19475781 - 01/26/14 08:41 AM (10 years, 5 days ago)

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do u break them up to smaller pieces beforehand?  i guess i mean, what size are we shooting for here? 1-3"?  prepped in the same way forrester describes, whether its a coffee stirrer or a BBQ chip?




They're too big to fit in the tubes I have so yeah, I break them in half.  I think the goal would be for it to be close enough to the opening of the tube that you could get a sample from it to grow out but I'm not even sure how exactly you go about that honestly :shrug:  Hopefully one of the seasoned pros here has done it before and can explain how you revive a culture from the wood.


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    #19476259 - 01/26/14 11:22 AM (10 years, 5 days ago)

those look incredibly funky. can you grow those in a monotub for their whole life? I'm about to start my first reishi grow and im looking for something relatively simple because the humidity where i live is almost non-existent


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    #19483479 - 01/27/14 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 days ago)

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those look incredibly funky. can you grow those in a monotub for their whole life? I'm about to start my first reishi grow and im looking for something relatively simple because the humidity where i live is almost non-existent




So far the monotub is proving to be as easy as for these as it is for cubes :awesomenod: Gonna do up my stretch wrap lid up tonight :cool:



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    #19483510 - 01/27/14 08:46 PM (10 years, 3 days ago)

Those things are looking awesome!


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    #19483540 - 01/27/14 08:56 PM (10 years, 3 days ago)

Thanks man! I must say that I really appreciate the help and advice given to me in this grow. Shroomery people are excellent folks :thumbup:


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    #19489813 - 01/29/14 03:47 AM (10 years, 2 days ago)

I'm getting that same culture from sporeworks based on your results. Can't wait to see if I can recreate your results. You definitely have an inspiring grow going on here. :cool:


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    #19489836 - 01/29/14 04:11 AM (10 years, 2 days ago)

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    #19490282 - 01/29/14 08:39 AM (10 years, 2 days ago)

That is looking nice!


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    #19491815 - 01/29/14 03:05 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

Fuckin incredible dude!! Bravo :bow2:  :bow2:  :bow2:
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    #19503416 - 01/31/14 09:00 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks everyone :thumbup:

Well they are still growing out. No conks yet. Did crack on side of the lid and has increased FAE considerably. I keep watchin with ma fingers crossed :wink:



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    #19503523 - 01/31/14 09:31 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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    #19503752 - 01/31/14 10:25 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Looking awesome still!

I still haven't figured what exactly makes them decide to try and form conks.  A couple times I thought it happened when the temp in my room dropped a few degrees, but then other times they just do it anyway. 

Sometimes they won't do it till some of the antlers start capping off and you think they're gonna stop growing, then all of a sudden you see pores and a whole bunch of new growth above the pores, which turns into conks.

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    #19503774 - 01/31/14 10:29 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

man these take their sweet time.


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    #19504013 - 01/31/14 11:20 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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man these take their sweet time.




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    #19504452 - 02/01/14 01:48 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Got the culture in and noced up some WBS can't wait to get some monos going like yours. Still looking sweet!
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    #19505828 - 02/01/14 11:46 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Just popped a wedge on agar yesterday and it seems to be growing nicely :smile: hope it isnt contamed lol.


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    #19507572 - 02/01/14 06:48 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

u guys making me jealous!  my reishi seems to have died in the mail, strange b/c the enoki/maitaki/shiitaki it was with did not.  is reishi more susceptible to cold or something?


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    #19507609 - 02/01/14 06:56 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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u guys making me jealous!  my reishi seems to have died in the mail, strange b/c the enoki/maitaki/shiitaki it was with did not.  is reishi more susceptible to cold or something?




Skullphuxxx just had a completely frozen LC take off.  Out of all those cultures it is kinda strange that the reishi would be the one to die :shrug:


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    #19507633 - 02/01/14 07:00 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

yea weird!  well last night i did up another plate and another jar, while I'm waiting for a reply from vendor.  was thinking/hoping that perhaps only some of the culture died, not all of it.  with the initial plate, u can see the pieces of myc just sitting on the agar.  i don't think it would be the agar itself right?  just standard MEA.


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    #19507716 - 02/01/14 07:14 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I've had LC --> agar fail or take a really long time to take off, if the agar was too dry.  How long has the initial plate been sitting?

If it won't take to grains though, something's wrong for sure.


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    #19507920 - 02/01/14 08:04 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

the plate was only sitting for 1-2 days before noc up.  the shitaki is showing growth on agar, but not the grain jar i did 2 days before the agar, so i dunno?
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    #19507986 - 02/01/14 08:23 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I mean how long has the plate been sitting since noc up?


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    #19508037 - 02/01/14 08:35 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

7 days since first reishi nocced up on grain, 5 days since first nocced up on agar.


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    #19508088 - 02/01/14 08:49 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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7 days since first reishi nocced up on grain, 5 days since first nocced up on agar.




How do you prep your grain?  If grain is really dry it can take over a week to show any growth sometimes.


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    #19512087 - 02/02/14 04:55 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Holy shit pasty, those are killer looking, Keep posting pics, UNREAL!


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    #19527529 - 02/05/14 08:13 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Still no conks. Got the lids wedged open a fair amount, gotta be a lot of FAE. I would never do this with cubes. Still they don't look like they are drying out. Definitely getting to be large, I'm starting to worry my tubs not tall enough :lol:





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    #19527589 - 02/05/14 08:25 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

What size tub are you working out of Pastywhite, and I am on my first reishi grow also, and they look shitty compared to those bad bitches, I am growing out of bags and a bucket, which the bucket I cut slits in the Saran Wrap at like 15 days, just to see the comparison, and it formed conks upside down on the surface!

But reading an older post mephistos something ( I can't recall the whole name) he/she said to cover it back up and they will go back into antler formation! So I did today we shall see what happens!


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Looking good.:thumbup:


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    #19527861 - 02/05/14 09:24 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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What size tub are you working out of Pastywhite




These are 20 quart tubs. They are a little short, but I have a preference for fatass cubes so they work perfect for that. Had I known how tall these suckers would get I might have used different tubs.

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    #19528040 - 02/05/14 10:02 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Good to know, I have one myself untouched and saw a tech where you put 4 holes in the bottom right above substrate, and only 2 in top is that ok!


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    #19528677 - 02/06/14 01:44 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Just read through this thread. Wow. Those fruits are looking amazing! :stayfunky:


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    #19529662 - 02/06/14 09:33 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Good to know, I have one myself untouched and saw a tech where you put 4 holes in the bottom right above substrate, and only 2 in top is that ok!




I'm sure that would be fine. I have a few of these tubs that are also unmodified that I plan to try a few different configurations on for these.


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    #19529722 - 02/06/14 09:54 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Cool, thanks man! Oh and check out how sweet your first reishi grow compared to mine this is only my second grow of anything, Forrest and Forrester liked it, but I do believe they were just being cool! Notice how the conks are upside down in the bucket, Forrester said he had never seen anything like it because he said once they drop spores that's usually the end of the first flush, but he said not in that case because there are still more coming up!


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    #19537691 - 02/08/14 12:09 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry about that cc1, keep trying :thumbup:

At any rate, when I got home from work today I was too tired to check the tubs. Later I had a look and found a big ass spore dump begining. So I didn't really want a large spore load in my room, so I harvested them. Could not believe how shrunken and crushed the subs were. Easily shrank to 50% of its original volume. The fruits were intensely clustered, and surprisingly tough, almost like cutting plastic. Ended up chopping the subs up pretty bad, and considering how spent they looked, decided to pitch em. But wow, what a cool harvest experience :headbanger:





The beat up sub



Tub 1 wet; this one I left a 41 gram cluster off, misplaced :lol: :bong:



Tub 2 wet;



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    #19537778 - 02/08/14 12:49 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Very cool indeed, I followed this grow from start to finish, very exciting stuff!  Can't wait to try my hand at growing Reishi, just got my culture syringe 2 days ago and I went to get hardwood chips just today. :laugh:  Have some coir and verm as well, and by the looks of it, they seem to work just fine. :P


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    #19537828 - 02/08/14 01:10 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Awesome PW!!! When you said you "pitched them" , you didn't mean you tossed the subs in the trash, right? Those need spawned to some outdoor grow bed or something!


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That fifth pic. Wow. Nice work man. When do you start the next tub?


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    #19537985 - 02/08/14 02:42 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Oh , thanks, but no way am I giving up I am just getting started, and some GOOD things are headed my way! Already got some so I have seen your grows I may have a few questions for you Pastywhite, if that is ok, along w/ the other excellent people here! I am really impressed with everything I have seen from you man! Not that that means much from me to you, but I just wanted to tell you how awesome your grows have looked to me!


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    #19538355 - 02/08/14 07:10 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

nice, i come home from work to see an awesome reishi harvest from pasty, and a surprise early delivery for my reishi replacement culture! talk about ideal conditions.

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    #19538636 - 02/08/14 08:56 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

That's crazy you were getting spores, I don't even see any pores!  Awesome harvest though, for sure.  You'll be set on tincture for a while I think :lol:

You'll probably get about 20-30% of that weight dry, I always get 25%.  Reishi doesn't have as much water content as some other species.


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    #19538725 - 02/08/14 09:14 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Awesome PW!!! When you said you "pitched them" , you didn't mean you tossed the subs in the trash, right? Those need spawned to some outdoor grow bed or something!




If only it wasn't for the 2 feet of snow or the brutal freezing temps here right now I would have :tongue: Actually its only -7 f right now so I might actually get my car washed today while its not too cold out :wink:

Thanks for following along guys :thumbup: I am a little torn about when to start my next run with these guys as I have a few other experiments that I need to attend. But no matter what when I do start another one, a log will be done. I will at least report back with a dry weight, and I do plan to do an extraction. I did want to see how these would do with a simple coir sub with no wood, so I might get that started right away :super:


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That's crazy you were getting spores, I don't even see any pores!  Awesome harvest though, for sure.  You'll be set on tincture for a while I think :lol:

You'll probably get about 20-30% of that weight dry, I always get 25%.  Reishi doesn't have as much water content as some other species.




The spores took me by surprise as well. But by the time I had them harvested, I looked at my hands and they were covered in spores. The water content is definitely lower than other species, I could not believe how tough the fruits were. A serrated knife is definitely in order for these.


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I enjoyed following this one PW.  Thanks for sharing.


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The spores took me by surprise as well. But by the time I had them harvested, I looked at my hands and they were covered in spores. The water content is definitely lower than other species, I could not believe how tough the fruits were. A serrated knife is definitely in order for these.




Be sure and rip 'em into as small of pieces as you can BEFORE you dry them (if it's not too late).  Once dry, it's a hell of a lot more difficult.


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    #19538776 - 02/08/14 09:25 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Well some of them were chopped up pretty small as I was going, but halfway through I just was like fuck it, I was tired and wanted to go to bed. So I guess I gotta challenge ahead :lol: When completely dry can they be cracked or crushed at all? Would a hammer work :lmafo:


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Meat grinder works.


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    #19538815 - 02/08/14 09:32 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

You can crack some of them apart by hand once they're cracker dry as well, all you gotta do is get 'em small enough to fit in the coffee grinder (or whatever you're using) so you should be alright :wink:

Never tried a meat grinder!  But I did completely destroy a $100 Ninja Professional blender with some chaga.  Oops.


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    #19538830 - 02/08/14 09:35 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Meat grinder works.




:takingnotes: Coolest part for me about this grow was how much I learned from it. I do have access to a large meat grinder for sure for sure, thanks Jeff :thumbup:

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You can crack some of them apart by hand once they're cracker dry as well, all you gotta do is get 'em small enough to fit in the coffee grinder (or whatever you're using) so you should be alright :wink:

Never tried a meat grinder!  But I did completely destroy a $100 Ninja Professional blender with some chaga.  Oops.




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    #19539190 - 02/08/14 11:09 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Not that that means much from me to you, but I just wanted to tell you how awesome your grows have looked to me!





Don't sell yourself short bro! Everybody loves to be told how awesome they are, doesn't matter by who! :wink:

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If only it wasn't for the 2 feet of snow or the brutal freezing temps here right now I would have :tongue: Actually its only -7 f right now so I might actually get my car washed today while its not too cold out :wink:




Yeah, I feel ya on the cold shit, but that doesn't mean you can't store the sub until it warms up. My outdoor bed spawn is all stored in filter-patch bags and are being stored on a shelf in my basement at around 40F. BTW, doesn't Reishi myc survive in nature being frozen every year anyways... :wink:


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    #19543374 - 02/09/14 11:04 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

So the fruits are dry and the cycle is complete. They feel so woody and they gave me a woody too :lol: I was able to crack them apart without too much trouble and the hammer can take care of the rest:wow: Thanks to everyone for following along and for the excellent advice and support :thumbup: Go Shroomery!



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    #19543402 - 02/09/14 11:08 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Is that 287g dried, or wet?


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    #19543411 - 02/09/14 11:10 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Dry :cool:


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    #19543556 - 02/09/14 11:53 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, nice harvest!!  That's a lot of reishi :smile:


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    #19544394 - 02/09/14 03:30 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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They feel so woody and they gave me a woody too




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    #19546493 - 02/10/14 03:15 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Nice harvest man! Glad to see everything turned out so well. Can't wait for mine to start fruiting. Keep up the great work!
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    #19547271 - 02/10/14 10:18 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for posting! I've been following along and find this very appealing! I think your thread has given me the confidence to try to grow some mushrooms at home. You've made it seem so easy. haha


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    #19548185 - 02/10/14 02:48 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, you are right on that, I have a shitty grow so far on my reishi but Forrest and Forrester told me, way to go, and It was just like hmmm, maybe not so bad when I new in my heart they are shit so far! But not to rob PW thread, fucking excellent my friend!


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    #19548276 - 02/10/14 03:11 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks guys! A lot of the credit for this grow needs to go to forrester who gave me the idea that these could be done in monos in the first place. Even a hack cube grower like me could take that ball and run with it :lol: This thread has been a lot of fun, and the reishi were a treat to grow. Not sure when I can give em another go, but I got slants made up and lots of LC so there will be another crack at these for sure. Next time I'm hoping to see conks :super:


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    #19548297 - 02/10/14 03:16 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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    #19555007 - 02/11/14 11:19 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Thanks guys! A lot of the credit for this grow needs to go to forrester who gave me the idea that these could be done in monos in the first place. Even a hack cube grower like me could take that ball and run with it :lol: This thread has been a lot of fun, and the reishi were a treat to grow. Not sure when I can give em another go, but I got slants made up and lots of LC so there will be another crack at these for sure. Next time I'm hoping to see conks :super:




Hey, thanks :smile:

Not sure when you'll NEED to give 'em another go after that harvest! :lol:

If you get any humidity up there at all you can probably toss some outside in the summer and get some conks goin' on.  Hell, do a 5g bucket grow and fruit it out a few holes in the side.  With your strain, and a high spawn rate like you did, you could probably get some record setting conks!


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    #19599232 - 02/21/14 11:18 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Even a hack cube grower like me could take that ball and run with it :lol:





That's me Pasty - pseudo-cube grower :lol:

However after receiving some reishi product and being super inspired by this thread I'm gonna be doing some reishi monos too as, among many others reasons for growing reishi, yr grow looked awesome :awesomenod:

Having read this thread is there really much point me taking up my garden by growing reishi on oak logs which was my original intention?? :shrug:


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    #19599396 - 02/21/14 12:06 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Well I am planning my next go with these and I am gonna top fruit em again in a mono. Tubs are just too easy.  Gonna change up the mono design a bit tho, and i got some ideas on the configuration I am gonna go with :super: Will probably do another grow log on it.


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    #19599405 - 02/21/14 12:09 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I have a 6quart tub brick going. two quarts reishi spawn and 4 quarts pasteurized sawdust, I was thinking of "birthing" this loaf of reishi substrate onto a layer of saran wrap then wrapping it up and cutting slits in it, then throwing it in the SGFC. Sound legit, Or I could just top fruit it and leave it in the bin.


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    #19600611 - 02/21/14 05:00 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

that wrap sounds like a cool idea if it works!  i have a small bucket of reishi colonizing now, that i cut holes on the side hoping for it to fruit out of those, like with an oyster bucket.  i can top fruit it too i guess.


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    #19600641 - 02/21/14 05:08 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Well I have no problem with how well it top fruited :awesomenod: maybe with a different culture it might not have been as successful,  maybe I will test some more limited fruiting area for future attempts.


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    #19600689 - 02/21/14 05:18 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

its getting warmer here, but still occasionally verging on freezing at night.  Rh is at 60% outside w/ all the melting snow.  i wonder if i would fruit my bucket outside, with just the side holes?


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i have a small bucket of reishi colonizing now, that i cut holes on the side hoping for it to fruit out of those, like with an oyster bucket.  i can top fruit it too i guess.




It will fruit from wherever it can find air.  If you want it to fruit out the sides and not top, just seal off the top. 

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its getting warmer here, but still occasionally verging on freezing at night.  Rh is at 60% outside w/ all the melting snow.  i wonder if i would fruit my bucket outside, with just the side holes?




I don't think it would do well...  G. lucidum doesn't much like cold, anywhere near freezing is too cold.  Even the G. tsugae around here (which is more cold-hardy than lucidum) doesn't start fruiting till late spring.


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