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Pastywhyte
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Noob wants to know "how does my reishi look?" 2
#19189163 - 11/25/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it was possible to inoculate ganoderma to grain spawn with LC, then spawn it to sawdust/cardboard sub similar to spawning to bulk with cubensis. I know that you can do this with oysters to straw a la RR's video, but could something like this work for more than just oysters.
I have a ganoderma LC that I got from a sponsor (was kind of a bonus, but one I was hoping for )and I want to get started with it but I got two problems, one no tyvek sleeves (got the bags but no sleeves ) and two I do my work in a SAB, so I'm not sure if using bags without a flowhood is even a good idea. To be honest I'm a little intimidated by bags, if there is no other way then I will bite the bullet, I'm just a chickenshit 
I have read about them being fruited off grains and bran in jars, is this noob friendly or recommended? Any suggestions or ideas are welcome.
Edited by Pastywhyte (01/03/14 06:15 PM)
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Dude if you can grow cubes you can grow reishi. Process is the same just like you said, LC --> grain spawn --> bulk substrate. Only difference is your bulk substrate should be pasteurized fuel pellets (or sawdust, I find fuel pellets easier). You don't really need to supplement and get all worried about sterility. Reishi is a lot more contam resistant than cubes. Hell if you're afraid of bags do 'em in a monotub! Actually, now that I think of it, reishi does pretty well on coir too. So you could theoretically do them EXACTLY how you do cubes. Unless you use poo...
Tyvek sleeves? What the hell are those?! If you have an LC syringe, you don't even need a SAB.
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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
#19189417 - 11/25/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually I saw a reshi monotub that you did that looked fricken boss. If you think I can do it as easy as LC>grain>Sawdust/Bulk then I am gonna just dive in and experiment. Thanks man!
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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#19189474 - 11/25/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Actually I saw a reshi monotub that you did that looked fricken boss. If you think I can do it as easy as LC>grain>Sawdust/Bulk then I am gonna just dive in and experiment. Thanks man!

Hell yeah you can! You gonna be using fuel pellets or what?
I'd go with like 3 jars at least for a pretty big monotub and you should be gold.
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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
#19189564 - 11/25/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I got some fuel pellets, was gonna do a mini mono to get my feet wet. Can't wait to give em a shot
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Pastywhyte said: Yeah I got some fuel pellets, was gonna do a mini mono to get my feet wet. Can't wait to give em a shot 
Let us know how it goes man, I wanna see pics!
Reishi in a mono is so easy. "Bucket-tek" style works fine, true pasteurization shouldn't be necessary. Boiling water on pellets has worked for me for a while now, for many species. Spawn in open air at a decent spawn rate and you really shouldn't lose.
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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
#19210500 - 11/30/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nocked up a pint of rye this evening, was gonna just try to use it to G2G but now I'm second guessing that move. Can you G2G reishi? I've seen a few posts where people have tried it, but they never seemed to end well. If its not recommended I got plenty of jars that I can nock up at a moments notice. Pretty pumped about getting this grow off the ground.
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You should be fine with G2G, just do it right AS SOON as it's fully colonized. It gets thick really quick so a couple days late might be too late and you won't be able to break it up very easily.
People that had problems probably just weren't use to reishi and let it sit too long before they got to it...
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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
#19212364 - 12/01/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay that's good to know, I usually don't let cubes sit too long unless I'm preoccupied with other projects, however I expect that in this case this will be the other project I'm preoccupied with
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You said you have the problem of bags but no sleeves. Are you referring to placing a tyvek sleeve in a bag while PCing grain spawn so it doesn't accidentally seal and explode?
If so, there's a video online that shows how a guy uses pieces of an inexpensive tyvek suit he cut up for the same purpose. Just lost my job last week (company moved) so made a note of this as it's a way to avoid the cost of the sleeves. Hope this helps.
P.S. I'm really grateful to the posters here for sharing their experience and info. I'm just starting out and have learned so much. Thanks!
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Yeah that's pretty much the gist but really, I'm just so comfortable at the moment doing G2G with quarts and then spawning that I don't really feel like messing with a new step when attempting a new species. I will probably get bags going soon, already have them, just want to take it slow at the moment.
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Ok so I did some G2G as well as a few agar plates for future inoculations and to do up a slant, just want to confirm a couple things. My G2G went extremely fast, this stuff is super aggressive. Receiving jars look like they have colonized already in 5 days with thin growth and are starting to thicken up. Is this the time to spawn or should I wait until its a thicker white. Also just want to be sure that this is indeed reishi myc as it don't look anything like I'm used to seeing with cubes, pans, and mexicana. They have definitely created a lot of heat in there, as can be seen by the condensation.

Each of these jars is 2 quarts so I have 4 quarts spawn in total.
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That is looking good. Don't wait too long to transfer reishi as it gets really hard to break up once it thickens up.
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pseudotsuga said: That is looking good. Don't wait too long to transfer reishi as it gets really hard to break up once it thickens up.
Was gonna prep sub tonight and spawn tomorrow
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Well I think these tubs are looking good. All my 66 quart monos are full of projects already so I had to scale down to my 20 quart tubs. Ended up with a really high spawn ratio of 1:1 so hopefully that doesn't screw anything up. I must say that these things are fucking aggressive, 4 days in for the first tub and I'm debating on fruiting it tomorrow This will probably get me some flak but I sterilized my subs. I have a theory that anything that could be "bucket pasteurized" can be sterilized with no problems. I have done it a few times now with coir verm and it works fine (at least with cubensis). We shall see how it does here.
First tub, sterilized fuel pellets 4 days in.

Second tub, sterilized fuel pellets and coir verm 2 days in.
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Pastywhyte said: This will probably get me some flak but I sterilized my subs. I have a theory that anything that could be "bucket pasteurized" can be sterilized with no problems.
I think you're probably right. I don't think after the pellet manufacturing process and the amount of heat/pressure used that there's any beneficial organisms left in them, so pasteurize, sterilize, or "bucket-tek" it, I don't think it makes much difference.
Tubs are looking good! High spawn ratio shouldn't do anything but help
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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
#19351803 - 12/31/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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Well the tubs look done to me and are in fruiting conditions. Got them sideways as it looked like you had some success doing it that way in your log. Lemme know if anything looks off.
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Those look nice and healthy 
You should be seeing fruits start to form fairly soon I imagine!
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Re: Noob wants to know [Re: Forrester]
#19351991 - 12/31/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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Not sure if its good or bad but I got something happening in my tubs for sure, and its happening fast.
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