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Quick Fix ----- FAIL
    #19188848 - 11/25/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so last night at 4:30 am im called down to the security building for a urine analysis along with my boss and co worker.

they both take there tests and pass and are happily on their way. as i go into the bathroom no follows me and im confident in the time i have to open up my bottle of quick fix that has been stored in my underwear in order to keep it up to temperature. i git into the stall, its perfect temperature so i poor half of it into the test cup in order to git it above the testing temperature strip and walk happily and confidently back into our security office in order to return the cup.

a couple minutes pass as we wait for the results..... and then it she hits me with it.

"is there anything you have to tell me?" she says
my heart drops to the floor and my gut tightens up.
after questioning and answering i am told that my urine has showed up positive for barbituates.
they are sending my urine sample to the lab it is in transit as i post this.

what are your opinions on this?
have any of you had similar experience with quick fix?


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19188871 - 11/25/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Chill out . All you had to worry about was the temperature. You passed that. The shitty pre screen testing cups notoriously give false positives. The lab test will show that. quick fix is still beating the lab tests as far as I've heard.When the clean results get back be sure to act pissed off so she feels bad and maybe invests in standardizing the drug tests with lab tests first and foremost only.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL *DELETED* [Re: laruta_21]
    #19188903 - 11/25/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19188914 - 11/25/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Are barbiturates actually available anymore?
I know it's a moot point, but I've never came across this besides when I was dosed before kidney stone surgery.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: shLong]
    #19188931 - 11/25/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

im not entirely sure as i was informed early this morning pain killers show up as barbituates and they were persistent in asking if i had taken anything that was prescription


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19188964 - 11/25/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, standard lab tests are usually the gc/ms Sap 10/50 and that includes barbiturates. Includes methaqualone. The Lab test will either come back clean or invalid. Not positive for anything.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: laruta_21]
    #19189017 - 11/25/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

WTF is a barbituate anyway?


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #19189053 - 11/25/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it's a bar-bit-u-ate.



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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: memes] * 1
    #19189056 - 11/25/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: memes]
    #19189060 - 11/25/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My phone's spell check disagrees, but yeah, I think you're correct.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: shLong]
    #19189146 - 11/25/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you actually used QuickFix, it wouldn't have read positive for any drugs, it would have read as fake urine.  If you already have a job, you may likely be able to appeal and take a new (observed) test to keep you job.  Start drinking a gallon of Gatorade+creatine/day to pass.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: shLong]
    #19189592 - 11/25/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Are barbiturates actually available anymore?





I bought some what was supposedly some alpraz powder and it ended up being methaqualone (quaaludes), so it's still illicitly manufactured.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #19189768 - 11/25/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it was quick fix unisex i bought it new from the store and carried it on me until aparrently i failed im assuming that it was a false positive at fault of the drug test but that doesnt reserve my problem of having to pass a legit drug test now as mush4brains stated im not incredibly worried about gitting clean as i had been on probation for a year (clean) and only recently started smoking again) but that doesnt take away the anxiety that comes from having to deal with all the extra bull shit


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19189776 - 11/25/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You'll be fine man, just stop smoking bla bla, you know what to do.

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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: dontknow]
    #19190584 - 11/26/13 06:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah unfortunately i know what to do ha but its better to quit smoking for a bit in order to keep my job so i can keep smoking


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19190597 - 11/26/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do you keep a vial of quick fix next to your nutsac all day everyday at work?

I did that for a couple of days and then just decided it was too much. Plus, I have my doubts that that shit even works.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: laruta_21]
    #19190606 - 11/26/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

laruta_21 said:
When the clean results get back be sure to act pissed off so she feels bad and maybe invests in standardizing the drug tests with lab tests first and foremost only.



Yeah, make the poor lady feel bad for doing her job properly as he cheats on his drug test :facepalm:


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19190611 - 11/26/13 06:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yes i carry the small bottle everyday it becomes unnoticable after a day or two

also the woman is a very kind one that i would not want to yell at in the first place


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: shLong]
    #19190623 - 11/26/13 06:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

shLong said:
Are barbiturates actually available anymore?
I know it's a moot point, but I've never came across this besides when I was dosed before kidney stone surgery.




Phenobarbital is still used in epilepsy.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19190654 - 11/26/13 07:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Enlil said:
Quote:

laruta_21 said:
When the clean results get back be sure to act pissed off so she feels bad and maybe invests in standardizing the drug tests with lab tests first and foremost only.



Yeah, make the poor lady feel bad for doing her job properly as he cheats on his drug test :facepalm:




Fuck her feelings. How many lives has she ruined just by doing her fucking job?


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19190660 - 11/26/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How long have you been carrying it daily? Does that kind of stuff go bad ever?


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19190661 - 11/26/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, because it's her fault that employees violate company policy :facepalm:


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Patlal]
    #19190663 - 11/26/13 07:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
WTF is a barbituate anyway?




Extremely common drug back then.
... Ludes are similar to, but not 'barbs'. Benzos have largely replaced most of them.

In the 1940s, military personnel were given "Goofballs" during WWII in the South Pacific region to allow soldiers to tolerate the heat and humidity of daily working conditions.:rotfl::patriot:

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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: vinsue]
    #19190668 - 11/26/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Good luck....hate to hear people failing drug tests.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19190873 - 11/26/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Fucking america, stealing your piss.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #19191070 - 11/26/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, make the poor lady feel bad for doing her job properly as he cheats on his drug test :facepalm:




"Just doing my job" is never a satisfactory excuse for disenfranchising people from their human rights.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
    #19191146 - 11/26/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Working for that employer isn't a human right.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19191166 - 11/26/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No, but not having to live in fear of persecution because of your culture is.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
    #19191176 - 11/26/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not being able to work for that employer is not "persecution."

If you choose to behave in a way contrary to an employer's policies, you should work for another employer.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #19191188 - 11/26/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No, but being fired simply because you smoked weed is persecution.  Just because a company has a policy doesn't make it right and it doesn't preclude you from being persecuted.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
    #19191195 - 11/26/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Being fired for violating policy is not persecution either.  Forcing an employer to keep paying someone even though they break policy would, however, be persecution.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
    #19191197 - 11/26/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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No, but being fired simply because you smoked weed is persecution.  Just because a company has a policy doesn't make it right and it doesn't preclude you from being persecuted.




It's in no way persecution and employers are free to set any rules they wish as long as said rules don't violate the law.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19191199 - 11/26/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Being fired for violating policy is not persecution either.  Forcing an employer to keep paying someone even though they break policy would, however, be persecution.




Nope.  Again, just because they make it a policy doesn't make it right and it doesn't preclude persecution.  In fact, much/most persecution is a matter of policy.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19191204 - 11/26/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

DieCommie said:
No, but being fired simply because you smoked weed is persecution.  Just because a company has a policy doesn't make it right and it doesn't preclude you from being persecuted.




It's in no way persecution and employers are free to set any rules they wish as long as said rules don't violate the law.




I'm talking about persecution and what is right.  This has nothing to do with the law.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
    #19191207 - 11/26/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You and I disagree on this and probably always will.

I am all about freedom.  The employee's freedom to do what he wants, and the employer's freedom to hire/fire/promote/demote whomever he wants for whatever reason(s) he chooses.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19191210 - 11/26/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have nothing to worry about. The lab will test for metabolites of barbiturates and won't find any. I bet the lady who checked your test thought a faint line was a positive, when in reality any line recognizable what's so ever is a negative.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
    #19191212 - 11/26/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And yet... it has everything to do with the law.

They can fire you for violating their rules. It is legal. It is not persecution in any way.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19191218 - 11/26/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You and I disagree on this and probably always will.

I am all about freedom.  The employees' freedom to do what he wants, and the employer's freedom to hire/fire/promote/demote whomever he wants for whatever reason(s) he chooses.




Then you simply think they are free to persecute employees.  Lets not pretend its something it isnt.  Firing somebody for their culture and way of life that is non-job related is persecution.  Its no different from firing somebody if they consume pork, have pre-marital sex, are gay or like a different sports team than you.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
    #19191224 - 11/26/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see it as persecution.  I see it as choosing how one spends his/her money.  If an employer wants to surround himself with mets fans, he should be able to do that.  It might be a shitty business practice, but that's his choice to make.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #19191225 - 11/26/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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And yet... it has everything to do with the law.

They can fire you for violating their rules. It is legal. It is not persecution in any way.




It has nothing to do with the law.  The law does not define what is right, nor does it define what is persecution.  The law only defines what the biggest armed gang in the land can kill or imprison you over. 

Yes, it is legal to fire somebody for smoking weed.  But that is completely irrelevant.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
    #19191241 - 11/26/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you say so.

:laugh2:

You have an odd definition of persecution.

As the employer could fire you for testing positive, it has quite a bit to do with the law.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Magicman69]
    #19191252 - 11/26/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well it was not only her but also three other individuals up the corprate ladder that came and checked it as well


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19191268 - 11/26/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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well it was not only her but also three other individuals up the corprate ladder that came and checked it as well




Tell them you dont even know what barbiturates are. Maybe show them this: http://www.norchemlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Barbiturates-facts.pdf

Explain how most barbiturates are short-acting and that its ridiculous how you tested positive. Then say how they aren't even around anymore.

Or just hold strong and don't argue, just say you've never taken em. Ask for a re-test.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19191269 - 11/26/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If an employer wants to surround himself with mets fans, he should be able to do that.




And that employer would be worthy of contempt.  Any claim that he or his employees are "just doing their job" while seeking out and firing non-mets fans is bogus.  It doesnt matter if its their job, it doesnt matter if its legal, its persecution and they are scumbags for it.  This is why I reject your claim that the lady is "just doing her job" as though that is an excuse for anything.  Its not.  She should feel bad for doing her job properly.  She is a bad person doing bad things.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: psi]
    #19191287 - 11/26/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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psi said:
Quote:

shLong said:
Are barbiturates actually available anymore?
I know it's a moot point, but I've never came across this besides when I was dosed before kidney stone surgery.




Phenobarbital is still used in epilepsy.



and withdrawal treatment

i've been prescribed it multiple times


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
    #19191289 - 11/26/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And I disagree with just about everything in that post. 

The employer may be worthy of many things, including contempt...but that doesn't make it persecution to choose employees based on one's own biases.


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    #19191299 - 11/26/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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...but that doesn't make it persecution to choose employees based on one's own biases.




Thats exactly what persecution is.

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    #19191306 - 11/26/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

All of your definitions including the word "persecuting" in the definition.  I reject your claim that choosing employees is persecuting anyone.

And your additional link from the edit requires "oppress or harass with ill-treatment."  Choosing employees isn't oppression or harassment.


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    #19191322 - 11/26/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Simply choosing isnt of course.  Its when you fire or dont hire based on non-job related characteristics.  Its pretty simply really.  Not hired because you cant read and the job requires reading?  Not persecution.  Fired because you are not a mets fan and the job has nothing to do with sports?  Persecution.

My claim is that "just doing my job" is not a valid excuse for harassing or oppressing people and giving them ill-treatment messing up their lives and livelihood.


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    #19191333 - 11/26/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Simply choosing isnt of course.  Its when you fire or dont hire based on non-job related characteristics.  Its pretty simply really.  Not hired because you cant read and the job requires reading?  Not persecution.  Fired because you are not a mets fan and the job has nothing to do with sports?  Persecution.

My claim is that "just doing my job" is not a valid excuse for harassing people and giving them ill-treatment messing up their lives and livelihood.



Completely agree. If a certain characteristic prevented you from doing your job, for example you worked in the front-office of the Mets doing hiring, but hated the team and were an avid Yankees fan, that might cloud your judgement and prevent you from doing that job properly.

On the other hand, if you work in a factory and are a Yankee fan but the boss is a Mets fan, it is completely irrelevant to the position and it would be persecution to hire / fire employees based on that trait.  I'm fairly sure these discrimination laws are in place in Canada at a federal level.

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    #19191335 - 11/26/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not hiring someone isn't harassment or oppression, so it doesn't matter what the reason is.

And firing someone is functionally equivalent to simply not hiring them for the next day.

No one is owed employment at all, much less at a particular employer.

I agree that "just doing my job" is not an excuse for doing the wrong thing.  I don't agree that making employment decisions based on a person's drug use is doing the wrong thing....at least in the moral sense.


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    #19191404 - 11/26/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP they do the gc/ms analysis on site at your job? I've never heard of that before. they usually send me out to some hospital campus or a different building somewhere to a company that specializes in this kind of thing.

I couldn't agree with you more DieCommie, corporations own us in modern America. Urine analysis is a joke and I encourage everyone to cheat these piece of shit tests regardless of whether or not you're even dirty. It's just downright demeaning to have to pee in a cup on a boss's whim with absolutely no reason one way or another to assume I have any trouble oncesoever with drugs.

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    #19191438 - 11/26/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i truely didnt know what barbituates where until i asked them and they told me
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    #19191450 - 11/26/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's screwed up, man. You didn't mix the Quick Fix with anything right? Just straight Quick Fix out of the bottle in to the cup? What website did you buy it off of? I've used it quite a bit and I know others who use it, so far it's been 100% success rate.


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    #19191478 - 11/26/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah cause business practices should trump an individuals fundamental right to his/her own consciousness and how they choose to alter it in their free time :rolleyes:

Only when they are intoxicated AT work should it become a terminable offense.

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    #19191520 - 11/26/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Arguing it is pretty silly, actually.  What is and isn't a "human right" is simply a matter of opinion, and the law in this area is crystal clear and has been for decades.


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    #19191534 - 11/26/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i didnt buy it from a website the sinclair down the street from my house actually sells it inside for 20 bucks thats where i got it from
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    #19191543 - 11/26/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Arguing it is pretty silly, actually.  What is and isn't a "human right" is simply a matter of opinion, and the law in this area is crystal clear and has been for decades.




Why does this matter?  Because its been law for decades we shouldn't bother arguing it?  I know you dont believe that.


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    #19191552 - 11/26/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It matters because there's no point in discussing the legality of it since that is already clear, and there's no point in discussing the morality of it since that is strictly a matter of opinion.

You're obviously never going to change your mind...or my mind.


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    #19191588 - 11/26/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It matters because there's no point in discussing the legality of it since that is already clear, and there's no point in discussing the morality of it since that is strictly a matter of opinion.

You're obviously never going to change your mind...or my mind.




But with that logic there is no point in discussing anything.  Yes, its a matter of opinion.  Thats what forums like this are, discussing matters of opinion.  I have and will change my mind on a variety of topics as a result of discussion, including this one.  I'm grateful for the free thinkers that called me out over the years in discussions like this.  Its in the fires of discussion and challenge of debate that we forge worthwhile opinions.


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    #19191603 - 11/26/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree, but you and I have been down this road several times, and it always ends up in the same place.  We get to an impasse wherein you claim that something is a "human right" based on your own a priori determination, and I counter with "no, it isn't" based on my a priori determination.

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    #19191618 - 11/26/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I hold these truths to be self evident... that all humans have a right to experiment with their own consciousness without fear of persecution in the workplace and beyond.


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    #19191625 - 11/26/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cool.  I disagree that refusing to hire someone is persecution regardless of the reason. 

So here we sit...at impasse once again.


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    #19191656 - 11/26/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, make the poor lady feel bad for doing her job properly as he cheats on his drug test :facepalm:




"Just doing my job" is never a satisfactory excuse for disenfranchising people from their human rights.




She doesn't make the laws/company polices.....im sure all the employees know the rules of random drug-testing at their own job.

I've failed a drug test, the first thing I blamed was myself because I knew the rules and I broke em....whether I agree morally is an entirely different matter.


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    #19191670 - 11/26/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've failed a drug test, the first thing I blamed was myself because I knew the rules and I broke em....whether I agree morally is an entirely different matter.




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    #19191797 - 11/26/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Cool.  I disagree that refusing to hire someone is persecution regardless of the reason. 



So you think it's fair that hiring decisions can be made based solely on the sex, race, or sexual orientation?  That's sickening and says a lot about your character.

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    #19191809 - 11/26/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Advocating that people be forced to hire someone shows yours.


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    #19191835 - 11/26/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So you think it's fair that hiring decisions can be made based solely on the sex, race, or sexual orientation?  That's sickening and says a lot about your character.

I'm glad that this type of discrimination is illegal in Canada.



It's illegal to discriminate based on sex or race in the U.S., but some states allow discrimination based on sexual orientation.

I don't think people should discriminate based on sex, race, sexual orientation, or butt size, but I think people should have the freedom to do so if they want.  Ultimately, they will pay the price for it.

Basing hiring decisions on anything other than business needs is inefficient, and it leaves better employees for the competition to scoop up.  Any company that hires poorly will have a disadvantage, and will suffer as a result.  In a free market, competition will eventually trump discrimination.


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    #19191853 - 11/26/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Advocating that people be forced to hire someone shows yours.



I advocated that they should be forced to hire the best candidate for the position without being a bigot.  What exactly does that show?


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    #19191879 - 11/26/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It shows that you're okay with forcing other people to make decisions based on what YOU deem to be important.

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So you think it's fair that hiring decisions can be made based solely on the sex, race, or sexual orientation?  That's sickening and says a lot about your character.

I'm glad that this type of discrimination is illegal in Canada.



It's illegal to discriminate based on sex or race in the U.S., but some states allow discrimination based on sexual orientation.

I don't think people should discriminate based on sex, race, sexual orientation, or butt size, but I think people should have the freedom to do so if they want.  Ultimately, they will pay the price for it.

Basing hiring decisions on anything other than business needs is inefficient, and it leaves better employees for the competition to scoop up.  Any company that hires poorly will have a disadvantage, and will suffer as a result.  In a free market, competition will eventually trump discrimination.



Polls have shown that the majority of American think weed should be legalized.  And yet people are still going to jail over pot every single day.  Does that mean it's OK to throw these people in jail because eventually the policies will come around?

I agree that in the LONG run free market competition will trump discrimination but it is unfair to people who are alive right now to have to wait for that to happen.  It could be several generations before biases against gays, blacks, women, and other minorities are eliminated.  You don't think some government intervention is warranted to allow for equal opportunity?  I'm not for second suggesting anything like affirmative action, as that is biased in the other direction.


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    #19191893 - 11/26/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It shows that you're okay with forcing other people to make decisions based on what YOU deem to be important.

Are you okay with me forcing you not to use weed because I deem sobriety to be important?



It has nothing to do with what I deem important.  It is about giving every person, regardless of race, sexual orientation, sex, religion, and beliefs, an equal opportunity when these characteristics are irrelevant to the position at hand.  If you don't deem treating all human beings as equals important then I cannot possibly change your opinion on this matter.


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    #19191906 - 11/26/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you used fake piss and it came back for barbs then I smell someone suspicious of you and was trying to get you to say something on the spot. As long as quick fix is identical to real piss you should be fine.. sounds more like a scare to tell tactic.


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    #19191916 - 11/26/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Advocating that people be forced to hire someone shows yours.



I advocated that they should be forced to hire the best candidate for the position without being a bigot.  What exactly does that show?




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    #19191931 - 11/26/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It has nothing to do with what I deem important.  It is about giving every person, regardless of race, sexual orientation, sex, religion, and beliefs, an equal opportunity when these characteristics are irrelevant to the position at hand.  If you don't deem treating all human beings as equals important then I cannot possibly change your opinion on this matter.



Stop putting words in my mouth.  Of course I think treating all human beings as equal is important.

I just don't think that I should be able to force that belief on someone else.  Why should a racist be forced to write a check to someone he hates?  I don't like racism at all, but racists have every right to think the way they do just like Christians have every right to believe in mythical sky wizards.


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    #19192863 - 11/26/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I want to be able to smoke weed and keep my job. It might even make sense to me that people who run a business should have the right to hire and fire as they please. But since I don't own a business I don't give a fuck about that right. Just like they don't give a fuck about my right to go home and blaze. Surprise. I care more about myself than I do a bunch of corporate assfucks. I support any law that limits their freedom and expands mine. In fact, I think there should be affirmative action that they HAVE to hire a certain number of stoners. Why the fuck would I give a shit about the rights of these rich ass fucks when they've been bending over backward to ruin my life since I was fucking born? Fuck those rich ass republican pieces of shit. In a real free market I could sell fucking weed. How about that? Fucking libertarian bullshit.


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    #19192921 - 11/26/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well they placed me on leave until the results get back from the lab so im not sure it was simply a scare tactic and on top of that i never admitted to any use of anything


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well they placed me on leave until the results get back from the lab so im not sure it was simply a scare tactic and on top of that i never admitted to any use of anything



you're going to be fine.

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    #19192945 - 11/26/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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well they placed me on leave until the results get back from the lab so im not sure it was simply a scare tactic and on top of that i never admitted to any use of anything




Paid or unpaid leave?

By the way, not to be a bummer but despite the optimism you're getting that's a bad fucking sign.

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    #19192971 - 11/26/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I want to be able to smoke weed and keep my job. It might even make sense to me that people who run a business should have the right to hire and fire as they please. But since I don't own a business I don't give a fuck about that right. Just like they don't give a fuck about my right to go home and blaze. Surprise. I care more about myself than I do a bunch of corporate assfucks. I support any law that limits their freedom and expands mine. In fact, I think there should be affirmative action that they HAVE to hire a certain number of stoners. Why the fuck would I give a shit about the rights of these rich ass fucks when they've been bending over backward to ruin my life since I was fucking born? Fuck those rich ass republican pieces of shit. In a real free market I could sell fucking weed. How about that? Fucking libertarian bullshit.



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    #19192975 - 11/26/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

thats reassuring

and the next post is less reassuring why do you believe it to be a bad sign?

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    #19192977 - 11/26/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The results will come back negative. Consider this a little vacation, unfortunately not paid.


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    #19192986 - 11/26/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Seriously, though...If it comes back positive, it's only fair.

If you really value your job, you should lay off the controlled substances.  If you can't do that, you should find a more tolerant employer.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19193083 - 11/26/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I want to be able to smoke weed and keep my job. It might even make sense to me that people who run a business should have the right to hire and fire as they please. But since I don't own a business I don't give a fuck about that right. Just like they don't give a fuck about my right to go home and blaze. Surprise. I care more about myself than I do a bunch of corporate assfucks. I support any law that limits their freedom and expands mine. In fact, I think there should be affirmative action that they HAVE to hire a certain number of stoners. Why the fuck would I give a shit about the rights of these rich ass fucks when they've been bending over backward to ruin my life since I was fucking born? Fuck those rich ass republican pieces of shit. In a real free market I could sell fucking weed. How about that? Fucking libertarian bullshit.



U mad bro?




That's what I figured. My position can't be fucked with. All you got is stock free market rhetoric but philodophical bullshit doesn't match up so well to reality. Am I mad? Fuck yeah. Anyone who isn't is a fucking retard.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19193111 - 11/26/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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thats reassuring

and the next post is less reassuring why do you believe it to be a bad sign?

as far as i know its unpaid but im not sure just assuming




Getting put on leave means they definitely have reason to think something is up. I saw two guys with SCRIPTS to Xanax get put on leave because they said they exceeded recommended dosage. One got fired and then they fired the other guy later for something else. Hope for the best but brace for the worst.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #19193123 - 11/26/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Seriously, though...If it comes back positive, it's only fair.

If you really value your job, you should lay off the controlled substances.  If you can't do that, you should find a more tolerant employer.




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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19193149 - 11/26/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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My position can't be fucked with.



Your position is that you don't care about anything except getting what you want.  You're certainly free to live by that philosophy, but expect life to slap you with a lot of reality.


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    #19193151 - 11/26/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah im preparring i have been looking for jobs just in case
im thinking that the reason they assume i am dirty and it isnt there test is because of previous legal history required to get the job


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19193222 - 11/26/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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My position can't be fucked with.



Your position is that you don't care about anything except getting what you want.  You're certainly free to live by that philosophy, but expect life to slap you with a lot of reality.




Your ass will get slapped, too. In case you haven't noticed reality comes around and slaps the shit out of everyone. Like you might start a business and a bunch of liberal bureaucratic bullshit that you hate may put your ass on the streets. Just an example. Because liberal hippies ain't the only ones taking it in the ass these days. Lots of folks who think like you get reality slaps just as fucking hard or worse. While you're thinking I'm about to get slapped bam next thing you know it's your ass on the fucking ground. I know a thing or two about fucking reality and it don't give a fuck what you believe in.


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You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19193236 - 11/26/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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yeah im preparring i have been looking for jobs just in case
im thinking that the reason they assume i am dirty and it isnt there test is because of previous legal history required to get the job




Good luck. Try not to burn any bridges. And fuck anyone who says you deserve it. You deserve a good life just like anyone else.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19193243 - 11/26/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I just passed a drug test a couple weeks ago with QF w/uric acid 5.7-1 Canadian version.


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    #19193263 - 11/26/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You're an angry little fellow, aren't you?


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    #19193284 - 11/26/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i agree, as a person we should be able to withhold our own rights to choose wether or not we smoke pot and according to the government we are as well but its obvious that they dont mean what they say


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19193295 - 11/26/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You're an very angry  little fellow, aren't you?




Fixed.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19193297 - 11/26/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You're an angry little fellow, aren't you?




What the fuck do you know about my size?


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I disendorse you.[/quote]


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    #19193321 - 11/26/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You're an very angry  little fellow, aren't you?




Fixed.




I'm sticking up for someone who's having their livelyhood threatened. Anyone who would give this guy shit is the one demonstrating some kind of deep seated hateful anger. I'm just saying fuck that.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19193336 - 11/26/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They're having their livelihood threatened because of a choice.

Employers should be able to hire and fire who they wish.


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    #19193345 - 11/26/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If he really valued his livelihood, he would not have relied on some fake urine product.  He would have avoided controlled substances.

Instead, he took a gamble.  It looks like there's a chance he's going to lose on this one.  He has no one to blame but himself.


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    #19193347 - 11/26/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

agreed employers should be able to fire and hire at wim but that means also that i as a human should be able to smoke or not smoke at choice as well and not have it held against me unless it prevents from my ability to work


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    #19193354 - 11/26/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If he really valued his livelihood, he would not have relied on some fake urine product.  He would have avoided controlled substances.

Instead, he took a gamble.  It looks like there's a chance he's going to lose on this one.  He has no one to blame but himself.





Actually, it is quite likely he will pass the lab test with no problems.


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    #19193362 - 11/26/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Let me ask you this:  Do you think that an employer has an interest in making sure you're the kind of person that can follow the rules?  If so, don't you think your willingness to break the law indicates that you might also be willing to break the boss' rules?  Certainly, the consequences for breaking the law are far greater than the consequences for breaking his rules...yet you break the law regularly...

Don't you think the employer can consider that as a sign that you might be a risky employee to have around since you don't respect rules and authority?


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    #19193368 - 11/26/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Actually, it is quite likely he will pass the lab test with no problems.



It sure is...that's why I said "there's a chance."  I hope he gets away with it this time AND learns a lesson from it.


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    #19193376 - 11/26/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

People break laws every day, knowingly and unknowingly.  Breaking the law isn't always people saying "fuck you" to the man.  Drug users can be great employees, and non-drug users can be fucking awful.

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It sure is...that's why I said "there's a chance."  I hope he gets away with it this time AND learns a lesson from it.




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    #19193379 - 11/26/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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agreed employers should be able to fire and hire at wim but that means also that i as a human should be able to smoke or not smoke at choice as well and not have it held against me unless it prevents from my ability to work




The two are at odds with one another.


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    #19193398 - 11/26/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

they are one in the same if i can work and do my job as im asked and do it efficiently my home life should be of no concern to my employer


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    #19193433 - 11/26/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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they are one in the same if i can work and do my job as im asked and do it efficiently my home life should be of no concern to my employer




They aren't the same. Your stated that an employer should be able to hire and fire on a "wim". Now you're saying he shouldn't. Which is it?


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    #19193474 - 11/26/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

my choice to smoke marijuana while im not at work or dont have to go to work should be of no concern to an employer. im not saying  they shouldnt be able to hire or fire as they choose im saying that they legally need a reason to fire some one smoking marijuana just happens to be one (which in case) is why i used sythetic urine. my point was that they shouldnt need a reason if they dont like me that should be enough to fire me if they dont want me there and at the same time i should be able to have my personal life left out of the work environment but i dont


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    #19193521 - 11/26/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Could y'all just let it rest instead of picking apart what he's saying?

Just because there's a logical inconsistency in something doesn't mean it's clever to pick it out.


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    #19193536 - 11/26/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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my choice to smoke marijuana while im not at work or dont have to go to work should be of no concern to an employer.




Yet it is. Sometimes for legal reasons. Sometimes for safety reasons. Sometimes for insurance reasons. I smoke pot and do many other drugs. I'd still fire any employee that came to work high. With no hesitation. I choose to not piss test because I agree that what you do at home is your business. That's my choice just as it is for others to decide to test.


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im not saying  they shouldnt be able to hire or fire as they choose im saying that they legally need a reason to fire some one smoking marijuana just happens to be one (which in case) is why i used sythetic urine.




You're once again contradicting yourself.


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my point was that they shouldnt need a reason if they dont like me that should be enough to fire me if they dont want me there and at the same time i should be able to have my personal life left out of the work environment but i dont




Contradiction again.


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    #19193542 - 11/26/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Could y'all just let it rest instead of picking apart what he's saying?




Nope.


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Just because there's a logical inconsistency in something doesn't mean it's clever to pick it out.




Sure it is. Plus hopefully he'll learn from it.


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    #19193553 - 11/26/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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For a defense attorney, you sure do judge people quite harshly.



When people do stupid shit, I do judge them.  The guy knew he would be tested and used anyway.  That's the kind of shit that makes defense attorneys crazy.


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    #19193567 - 11/26/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

all im saying is that corprate shouldnt have to jump through stupid hoops just to fire someone but they also shouldnt be able to fire someone if theyve worked sufficiently and correctly and have a different lifestyle than that of their own choosing

you all can continue to argue this has simply became a waste of my time though


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    #19193577 - 11/26/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's not what you said.

This is what you said:

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    #19193589 - 11/26/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yes they should be able to hire. and fire. as they choose. WITHOUT jumping through hoops.

me being able to do as they ask. should have nothing to do with the choices i make outside of work.


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    #19193607 - 11/26/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And again, your position is contradictory.

If you feel they should be able to hire and fire at will that would include your personal choices as well.

Perhaps your position is better summed up thus:

"They should be able to hire and fire at will, unless I disagree. Then they should have to employ me despite their wishes."


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    #19193691 - 11/26/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

maybe i look as though im contracdicting myself because of knowledge i have not shared
the woman who drug tested me. we have had conversations. she would not pass a drug test with her urine. this is the situation. when i got tested the problem being was not through her but the man bigger than us that watched the test as well.
and when i say hire and fire at will. i say it on a basis of work relation if im doing my job correctly that would be no reason to fire me wether i smoked or didnt smoke


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    #19193709 - 11/26/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No, you look like your contradicting yourself because you are.

An employer should be able to hire and fire at will, or they should not. It's that simple.


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    #19193734 - 11/26/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

let me rephrase

an employer should be able to hire or fire their employee based on work ethic and efficiency. his or her personal life style should be a secondary factor that has no role in any part of obtaining or keeping the job unless it otherwise interferes with performance of tasks required for the job.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19193756 - 11/26/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's a far cry from your previous position.

Let me remind you:

"employers should be able to fire and hire at wim"


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19193770 - 11/26/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah im just not caring about this thread anymore youve been much more correct and ive been lost in my own head for quite some time i withdrawl all previous statements as im not sure what the hell im talking about right now.

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    #19193784 - 11/26/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'll meet you part way.

Employers should be able to hire and fire at will, but it would be nice if we as humans moved past hiring and firing people for stupid shit.


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    #19193852 - 11/26/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

agreed very much so agreed


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    #19193887 - 11/26/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'll meet you part way.

Employers should be able to hire and fire at will, but it would be nice if we as humans moved past hiring and firing people for stupid shit.



I completely disagree.  An employer should absolutely not be able to fire you for what you do in your personal time.  Fortunately, Canada agrees with me.  You cannot legally terminate an employee without cause, such as poor work performance or being intoxicated AT work.


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    #19193931 - 11/26/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Fortunately, in most states you can be fired for any or no reason. The business owner should have final say in who works for him/her.


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    #19193951 - 11/26/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Man do I love Canada.


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    #19194016 - 11/26/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh Canada... America's bitch.

Long may you jack lumber and club seals!


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    #19194122 - 11/26/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Canada ain't nobody's bitch. Canada has some social problems but compared to Canada as a whole America is a fucking trainwreck third world shit hole.


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    #19194137 - 11/26/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Canada ain't nobody's bitch.




:rofl:


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    #19194189 - 11/26/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

At least Canada hasn't been getting their asses handed to them by the poorest countries on earth. Look at all the American families crying because they lost loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan. And Vietnam literally bent us over and fucked us straight in the ass. We spend more than the rest of the world combined by far and still it takes over decade to deal with Afghanistan. Talk about a bitch country and worthless bitch ass military. It's a fucking embarrassment to call myself an American we're such a bunch of puss ass bitches. We start wars all over then it's waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaa when our 'boys' get killed.

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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

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    #19195096 - 11/27/13 04:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sorry your sense of humor died what is clearly a very painful death.


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    #19195142 - 11/27/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Patlal, barbs are pre-benzos. Quaaludes (methaquaalone) was their xanax/valium as far as recreational recognition goes but most or all have been abused. Barbaric tranquilizer, made almost entirely obsolete by benzos and z drugs.

They literally mostly use barbiturates for executions now lol. Epilepsy too though according to another answer, but I suspect this is pretty rare.

They're schedule 2 as well, while benzos are just schedule 4 (same as modafinil and codeine cough syups).


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    #19195309 - 11/27/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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At least Canada hasn't been getting their asses handed to them by the poorest countries on earth. Look at all the American families crying because they lost loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan. And Vietnam literally bent us over and fucked us straight in the ass. We spend more than the rest of the world combined by far and still it takes over decade to deal with Afghanistan. Talk about a bitch country and worthless bitch ass military. It's a fucking embarrassment to call myself an American we're such a bunch of puss ass bitches. We start wars all over then it's waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaa when our 'boys' get killed.

:gayflag:



Thats because we are trying to manage wars, not win them.  Vietnam was a very good example of how to fight in a war without winning it.


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    #19195329 - 11/27/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Someone called Canada America's bitch. I'm pointing out the real bitch move is starting shit you can't finish. The other bitch move is acting all proud when your son joins the Army then crying like a bitch when he comes home dead. Don't ask for it unless you want it.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

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    #19195452 - 11/27/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal, barbs are pre-benzos. Quaaludes (methaquaalone) was their xanax/valium as far as recreational recognition goes but most or all have been abused. Barbaric tranquilizer, made almost entirely obsolete by benzos and z drugs.

They literally mostly use barbiturates for executions now lol. Epilepsy too though according to another answer, but I suspect this is pretty rare.

They're schedule 2 as well, while benzos are just schedule 4 (same as modafinil and codeine cough syups).



yeah, i'm given a bottle of phenobarbital every month for seizures. they aren't good unless I take a massive dose to the point of almost liver failure. I had a hurting liver for a couple weeks in the last month with tarry black poop. I was drinking while taking benzos and massive doses of pheno inbetween benzo days. I should be dead many times over.


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    #19195455 - 11/27/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Your mother must be so proud.


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    #19195581 - 11/27/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP I'd say the problem lies in where you bought it, I always get my shit online directly on the website for 30 dollars. You said you got it at a local store for $20 so that's a little weird, and also new versions occasionally come out of this shit for the newer testing.... Who knows how old the stuff is in that store or where it's even from.


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    #19195590 - 11/27/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well hopefully if it is old it will pull through but if it doesnt thats part of life only time will tell at this point


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    #19195626 - 11/27/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Your mother must be so proud.



i'd gladly kick the shit out of you if you want to meet somewhere and settle this once and for all, warning: I fight dirty and will do anything to catch your ass off guard. no threats but if you want to try and kick my ass then go for it. if you don't want me directly coming after you, THEN LEAVE MY MOTHER OUT OF YOUR FUCKING SARCASTIC REMARKS! too late for that now though. for her you also get a mouth full of poop and smeared into your hair once you're unconscious. bring it on, i'm waiting...


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19195637 - 11/27/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You really should try to get your temper in check.  That kind of anger will, over time, do you great harm.  You clearly already have enough health issues, and you don't need any more.


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    #19195668 - 11/27/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't really have a temper, but some people make me want to rip their fucking hair out and shove it down their throat. if I clearly have enough health issues, then why the fuck do you constantly harass me about them and call me hypochondriac. I thought you were a failing lawyer, not a successful doctor with actual patients.


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    #19195679 - 11/27/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Please quote the post where I called you a hypochondriac.  Thanks in advance.

Also, what makes you think that I'm a failing lawyer?  I've had nothing but success since becoming a lawyer.


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    #19195687 - 11/27/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

Enlil said:
Your mother must be so proud.



i'd gladly kick the shit out of you if you want to meet somewhere and settle this once and for all, warning: I fight dirty and will do anything to catch your ass off guard. no threats but if you want to try and kick my ass then go for it. if you don't want me directly coming after you, THEN LEAVE MY MOTHER OUT OF YOUR FUCKING SARCASTIC REMARKS! too late for that now though. for her you also get a mouth full of poop nd smeared into your hair once you're unconscious. bring it on, i'm waiting...



                 
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    #19195709 - 11/27/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This has been the thread hijack of the year. :solidnod:


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    #19195743 - 11/27/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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:blah::blah:...  bring it on, i'm waiting...


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    #19195816 - 11/27/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

Enlil said:
Your mother must be so proud.



i'd gladly kick the shit out of you if you want to meet somewhere and settle this once and for all, warning: I fight dirty and will do anything to catch your ass off guard. no threats but if you want to try and kick my ass then go for it. if you don't want me directly coming after you, THEN LEAVE MY MOTHER OUT OF YOUR FUCKING SARCASTIC REMARKS! too late for that now though. for her you also get a mouth full of poop and smeared into your hair once you're unconscious. bring it on, i'm waiting...




:cookiemonster:

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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

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    #19195819 - 11/27/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I come back several pages later to this shit?


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    #19195843 - 11/27/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This has been the thread hijack of the year. :solidnod:



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    #19195985 - 11/27/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Please quote the post where I called you a hypochondriac.  Thanks in advance.

Also, what makes you think that I'm a failing lawyer?  I've had nothing but success since becoming a lawyer.



ok I looked up archived posts and it looks like the work of Emmanuel Goldstein and liquid smoke. sorry for classifying you with them. I was wrong again. still, don't talk shit about mi madre!


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    #19196021 - 11/27/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you re-read my post, I didn't talk shit about anyone, including your mother.  Also:

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    #19196105 - 11/27/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think I read it in another thread. you did say what you said and brought the image of my mother shaking her head at me, she could be dead, or maybe she has drug problems too. either way it's none of your business and she is not a part of this site at all.


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    #19196199 - 11/27/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Any word yet op? Did they give you a time frame? Did they give you a pre employment drug screen? Anyways as a fellow Utahn i wish you luck.


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    #19196239 - 11/27/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

no they havent called me yet they told me when i was leaving that the lab will call me with the results and that my temp agent will call me before im allowed to return but they did not give me a time frame they just said a couple days im assuming next week as thanksgiving is tomorrow and they did give me a pre employment drug screening that one (for enlil's sake) was my own urine which passed


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    #19196287 - 11/27/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Believe it or not, I hope you pass.  I also hope that this scare is enough for you to plan accordingly in the future.


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    #19196546 - 11/27/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't really have a temper, but some people make me want to rip their fucking hair out and shove it down their throat.




:lmafo:


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    #19196721 - 11/27/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have never actually done that, though i'm tempted once in awhile. I'm a benign road rager with no license. I have to get my rage out somewhere atm.


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    #19196753 - 11/27/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I think I read it in another thread. you did say what you said and brought the image of my mother shaking her head at me, she could be dead, or maybe she has drug problems too. either way it's none of your business and she is not a part of this site at all.



Jo mamma ain't a part of this site


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19199101 - 11/28/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

good luck op


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19199229 - 11/28/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP: make sure you have another bottle of quick fix handy and ready as there is a good chance you will be asked to retest, or there will be problems with your sample and you will need to TELL them you want to retest.  If they make it sound like you can't because you already failed and they had it lab tested and you failed make sure you threaten them with a lawyer for the right to re-test.  Then just have the quick fix handy.

I've had friends in this same situation where they didn't push for a retest so the company basically fired them even though it was obvious there was a problem with the sample.(friends also used quick fix and other brand of fake urine, none of which will ever show positive for a drug).  But my pals basically lazy ass'ed their way out of a job by not pushing them for the retest.

Get another bottle and keep it handy.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: mndfreeze]
    #19199520 - 11/28/13 06:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

rather than another bottle of quick fix i have been drinking water to clear my system for the retest and have planned this alrmindeady thank you mndfreeze


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: mndfreeze]
    #19199524 - 11/28/13 06:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

rather than another bottle of quick fix i have been drinking water to clear my system for the retest and have planned this alrmindeady thank you mndfreeze and corpral


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19200474 - 11/28/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

dude they get the results from UAs within 72 hours for me...


you still don't know what's up?


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    #19204954 - 11/29/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

with the thanks giving holiday im assuming i wont know for a few more days but no i still dont know


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19237150 - 12/06/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i found out the "results" today
i have been notified by my temporary agency that the test did come back positive and that i can no longer work through them. when i asked what my results were they told me they were not at liberty to inform me of that information so i called the lab, the same sentence. and so i attempted to call the "employer" autoliv (which im not allowed to do) but got no answer
i called back seeing if there was any way i could get my results and they informed me that there was not and that i could no longer work there and had to just except the fact that them saying if failed is good enough.
fuck corprate america


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: nksfo5]
    #19237160 - 12/06/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Take it as a lesson, and learn from it.  There will be other jobs, but you need to keep your urine clean so that you won't be in this situation again.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: Enlil]
    #19237169 - 12/06/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Its all your fault its all your fault


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    #19237186 - 12/06/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Take it as a lesson, and learn from it.  There will be other jobs, but you need to keep your urine clean so that you won't be in this situation again.



That or work for an employer who does not drug test their employees.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: psi]
    #19237226 - 12/06/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's another option.  If getting a job soon is a priority, though, I'd keep clean just in case.  If he's got time, he can certainly be more choosy.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: psi]
    #19237401 - 12/06/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Enlil said:
Take it as a lesson, and learn from it.  There will be other jobs, but you need to keep your urine clean so that you won't be in this situation again.



That or work for an employer who does not drug test their employees.




Or figure out a better way to lie and/or cheat your way out of them.  Thats the best idea IMO.


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Re: Quick Fix ----- FAIL [Re: DieCommie]
    #19237447 - 12/06/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:facepalm3:


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    #19237466 - 12/06/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

or keep clean because the community in which i live is a very high rate of lds and so are alot of the employers, as of right now i do not have alot of time because i have rent to pay january first and 4 dependants that rely on me to find work. my urine is clean im asuming as i had only smoked about half a gram to a gram max and its now been three weeks since i smoked but until i find a job that i wont be tested at i wont be smoking and if it just so happens that i have to wait to smoke for a year or two until i do find that job then thats what has to happen but the job and my family come first


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