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Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern)
    #19188618 - 11/25/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So i was spawning to my tub yesterday and decided to go overkill and spawn 9 jars to a brick of coir. Upon breaking the spawn up in the jar the bottom cracked off one of the jars, exposing the spawn. I ended up taking a knife and chopping it up until it would come out. I'm pretty sure that would not be a vector of contamination would it? just wanted to get some opinions. I pasteurized in a large spawn bag for 1.5 hours.


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19188651 - 11/25/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

if the spawn was 100% colinized then you could pick your but and then dig it out and it would be ok.
but im not sure if your talking about the grain spawn or the coir?


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: Rubestoad]
    #19188665 - 11/25/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yup.  I do it with my nasty-ass hands, which I sometimes wash. :shrug:


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19188716 - 11/25/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The inside of the grain probably was not colonized. Generally, mycelium colonizes the outside of the grain. Different grains may vary.

By exposing the uncolonized inside of the grain you have opened the door to contamination taking hold.

This is one reason we break up the grains by shaking instead of digging it out with a spoon.

It's not a guarantee that your grow will contaminate, but it does increase the risk.

Please post back with your results.


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19188724 - 11/25/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Im pretty sure it was fully colonized as it was a gtg jar.


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19188755 - 11/25/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Being a G2G jar does not mean the inside of the individual kernel was colonized


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19188814 - 11/25/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it had been sitting there for over 2 weeks. im confident it was fully colonized.


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19188823 - 11/25/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't be.  Spitball is talking about the inside of your grains, not the inside portion of your grain jar.  Mycelium spreads and covers the outside of grains without necessarily filling them up and spreading throughout the inside of each individual grains.  While I haven't heard anything about this increasing contamination risk when using a tool to break up colonized grain, I can see what he's talking about.


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: Psilicon]
    #19188834 - 11/25/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you. I wasn't sure of another way to break it down.


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19188842 - 11/25/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

oh, i see now. well we will see. I'll post an update tommorow, should colonize quick like.


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19192091 - 11/26/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quick update, trying to keep tabs on my work.

Day 2



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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19196124 - 11/27/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Day 3



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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19196153 - 11/27/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so far so good


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19196319 - 11/27/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:p wish me luck. havent had much success lately despite attempts to keep super sterile


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19200127 - 11/28/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Day 4


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19200609 - 11/28/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

should probly stop opening it everyday to take a pic


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: cronicr]
    #19200750 - 11/28/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

why?


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19201055 - 11/28/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it needs to have high CO2 during colonization.

FAE is a pinning trigger after colonization.

FAE should be introduced at 100% colonization to induce pinning.

Opening the lid everyday is introducing FAE too early


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19201089 - 11/28/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i thought fae was constant air exchange? a 5 second picture shouldnt be enough to initiate pinning, right?


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Re: Question regarding my spawning to monotub (Concern) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19201484 - 11/28/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it's not the worst thing in the world but the risks are there


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