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Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage
    #19068474 - 11/01/13 04:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm finding that wavy cap's are not as strong as Lib's, this is surprising because I always hear its the other way around, strange, anyone got any ideas ? plz.


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Re: Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage [Re: fantasticfungus]
    #19068478 - 11/01/13 04:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well with cyans, the north american type are quite a bit more potent than    the European type. If you are drying them out, or messing with them at all, that may reduce potency as cyans have higher levels of psilocin which is a less stable molecule than psilocybin(Which libs have lots of)


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Re: Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage [Re: jimiandtheshroom27]
    #19069058 - 11/01/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Close to the same


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Re: Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage [Re: HarryL]
    #19069098 - 11/01/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You mean european and north american ones?

"North American fruiting bodies of P. cyanescens have been shown to contain between 0.66% and 1.96% total indole content by dry weight. European fruiting bodies have been shown to have between 0.39% and 0.75% total indole content by dry weight"

Hell if i'm wrong fair enough, show me a source that states otherwise


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Re: Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage [Re: jimiandtheshroom27]
    #19070352 - 11/01/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I got to what you chaps class as level 3 or 4 with 30 liberty caps and 2 or 3 wavy caps, the size difference is the thing; percent wise liberty caps may have more but the weight of one cyan might be (hypothetically) 1 gram, but the weight of one liberty cap might be 0.1 gram, meaning that there's more active chemicals in one wavy cap than liberty caps. With those hypothetical numbers you would need 10 liberty caps to equate to 1 wavy cap.
Now I hear you ask, what am I trying to say here? This all means we should go by weight, not by number of mushrooms and comparing individual mushrooms of different weight is missing out on the real quantities of mushrooms needed. sleep deprived rant over :smile:


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Re: Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage [Re: JingleJoe]
    #19073612 - 11/02/13 04:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Always dry them, weigh them and make tea JJ, the psilocin to psilocybin ratio jimiandtheshroom mentions sounds key here I think.

Its my Mrs who wanted the question answered, she uses mushrooms to cure her cluster headaches, she's incredibly sensitive to dosage and tries to avoid all the psycadelic effects (she don't like them ???) while still effectively killing the migraine, she takes a small dose of as little as .6 of a gram of Libs once each week, I told her she needs a gram of these wavys to achieve same level but she wont listen, but last night she tried .8 and it worked, I still think she aught to go for the gram though.


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Re: Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage [Re: fantasticfungus]
    #19073738 - 11/02/13 06:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Always dry them, weigh them and make tea JJ



you're preaching to the choir :smile: I have some drying as i type!

I feel I may be preaching to the choir aswell but tell her not to be afraid and enjoy the trip; the only problem is if she has had an unpleasant/unhappy/stressful day before taking them, then the trip may bring up bad things from the depths of the mind.
As long as you are humble and in a good place emotionally and realistically, then you should have nothing to fear from ego-death or the greater perspective often brought on by magic mushrooms  :mushroom2:
failing that give her a musical instrument, while tripping I found just pressing the keys on my melodica was as entertaining as playing it hahahahaha


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Re: Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage [Re: JingleJoe]
    #19073846 - 11/02/13 07:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

r u on drugs joe


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Re: Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage [Re: fantasticfungus]
    #19073863 - 11/02/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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if she has had an unpleasant/unhappy/stressful day




all the bleedin time m8 lol... but seriously I think its the guilt factor at heart.. the "I mustn't enjoy this cuz its eligal" mentality, it still does the job though, if she does take enough of the stuff :smile:


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Re: Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage [Re: fantasticfungus]
    #19074398 - 11/02/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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r u on drugs joe



I'm very sleep deprived, it's similar :crazy2: look past my crazyness, there's method to my madness.

She must realise one important truth: Laws are illusions. They're just methods the government uses to control us. They barely protect anyone bu the rich and upper classes: robbers will still rob me regardless of the law, psychos will still kill, regardless of the law. The law means nothing. rant over :tongue2:


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Re: Wavy's compared to Lib's dosage [Re: JingleJoe]
    #19187739 - 11/25/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is exactly what I found! Was really excited to find wavy caps in the UK, and expected them to be super strong. My friend had 1.5 grams dry and got a high level 2, which was a bit disappointing! I haven't tried them yet. maybe i dried them badly. Any tips? is the priority drying them fast (at a higher heat) or not heating them too much? I dried mine on the top of the radiator overnight which works great for libs.


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