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InTheCosmos
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Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed.
#19187254 - 11/25/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Florida will soon enough have the medical marijuana bill passed, that's obvious. It's everywhere i go, people asking for signatures for passing medical marijuana. Awesome.
Now, a lot of people will tell you that weed causes them to experience intense anxiety. Others say it does the opposite. If you ask me, weed is well known for making people paranoid. I happen to have anxiety issues myself as it is (when sober). I hear people say all the time that if you suffer from anxiety, you shouldnt smoke weed. It's a debatable topic. Would someone perscribed xanax or ativan or some other benzo be able to get a medical marijuana card to treat anxiety? Or would a doctor tell you that it would cause more anxiety?
Sometimes weed can really trip you out if you get to strong of a strain, and really send someone in a panic. Other times (most of the time for me) weed makes things so much better and really blocks out anxiety all together and gives you room to enjoy life. A heavy indica would surely make you relax.
What do you guys think? Does it help your anxiety, or make it worse? Would you think anxiety is a good enough reason to use medical marijuana?
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#19187304 - 11/25/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It depends upon the dose and further more if it is a THC or CBD dominated strain...
As to the paranoia... I think much of it comes from it actually being illegal and being needed to be used in secrecy, publicly...
Cannabis does not cause anxiety, but if you smoke a high dose THC it may be intensifyed.... depending on the setting... If one smokes a CBD it will probably lessen the anxiety, depending on the mindset...
One thing worth noting is that when you run away from your problems they will intensify when you finally have the option to face it.. Using Cannabis as an escape will have the same result following..
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: Icyus]
#19187445 - 11/25/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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different strains give different effect.
I can smoke some strains like sour D till my eyes bleed and have zero anxiety. while i smoke one joint of say NYCD and i get some anxiety (more the more i smoke)
find the strain that works best for u
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#19187455 - 11/25/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It always makes me feel calm and really helps with my depression. I think any reason is a good reason to use marijuana regardless of legality. Doctors and LE see it differently...
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: Icyus]
#19187472 - 11/25/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sativa dominant strains will most likely cause someone with anxiety issues to become more paranoid and anxious. THC can bring out anxiousness and schizophrenic symptoms (while high) in people with anxiety.
Indica dominant strains will most likely calm a person with anxiety issues, as they are higher in CBD, which is an antipsychotic and anxiolytic (reduces anxiety).
TL;DR - It helps, but usually only when using indica dominant strains.
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: niteman]
#19187484 - 11/25/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cannabis used to make me anxious. I'm not sure why, but I continued to persevere with it and slowly, the anxiety I used to feel faded away. I'd push it and get higher and higher, almost acclimatising myself to increased levels of stonedness.
This suggests to me that cannabis was a trigger for latent anxiety (centred around loss of control for me.) I overcome it by getting used to the headspace and learning to give up control to the high.
Some of the anxiety was perhaps borne on the back of the BS manifested around it's illegality.
I now find it relaxing - sometimes when vaping high THC strains there's a moment or two of adjusting to the high, but then it's pretty chilled out and fantastic.
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: P-O]
#19187503 - 11/25/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am a chronic weed user and have been for some 40 years or so. Weed reduces anxiety for me. However, this is a trick question. My wife gets SEVERE panic attacks under the influence of weed. And I have seen many others that also have this result. I have learned that this is a purely individual question. While some strains are better than others at reducing anxiety, it is by no means the end all conclusion. I have seen people who straight up "freak out" on small doses no matter the strain. Placebo effect? Or, is there a medical answer here? This is a question for smarter minds than mine with better financing and equipment. Until we lift the bans on scientific inquiry, this will remain an individual question, only answerable by the individuals to whom the question pertains.
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
#19187797 - 11/25/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Weed used to be awesome/my favorite thing ever and just give me awesome memorable times, but as I did it more and my tolerance went up, it started giving me more and more anxiety, and now it interferes with my anxiety so much I don't smoke any more.
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InTheCosmos
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: meganthratalica]
#19187862 - 11/25/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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A lot of great replies on here. Thanks everyone. So would you say that telling a doctor that you have anxiety issues would be a legitimate reason to get a medical marijuana card? (As in do you think they would accept that as a medical condition to use cannabis?) I have mixed feelings about what I think they would say about it, since it's very strain dependent.
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#19187903 - 11/25/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man, weed makes me feel terrible usually, I cant just sit and smoke with people, there are very few strains that I smoke occasionally, and I find that I only smoke if ive been getting a lot done in a day and not being lazy, it doesn't make me paranoid, just makes me feel like shit about myself, lot of self doubt. Smoking very small amounts of something like blue dream, actually is still very usefull to me, but this is for sure a large grey area, if you get anxiety from it I think you can still use it, but just differently, and I also believe that over time you would sort of get over it with tolerance or just generally learning to use it right. all speculation though.
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: solo11]
#19187959 - 11/25/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edited by Johnny Depp (12/19/14 05:46 PM)
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: Johnny Depp]
#19188249 - 11/25/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Interesting I never get anxiety from weed, sometimes I'm anxious when I don't have weed
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The only reason I ever got it from weed is because it's illegal. In the right setting it always helped my anxiety. It's been about 3 years now since I've had any
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: Eggtimer]
#19188640 - 11/25/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It gives me anxiety in some cases and chills me out in others. It may help or hurt you, it's a double edges sword. It depends on your brain.
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: GreySatyr]
#19224065 - 12/03/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Medic marijuana shops can usually tell you which strains are best for which issues. My mother once refused to smoke weed because the few times she tried it she would have panic attacks. Nowadays, she depends on weed to manage her anxiety disorder. It's incredible what a night difference it has made. I've always been just another recreational user but seeing firsthand its medical benefits is truly incredible.
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: Johnny Depp]
#19224306 - 12/03/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Johnny Depp said: Yep, THC vs CBD. It definitely works that way for me. When it's low CBD it can cause me anxiety. It counteracts the THC
I wish you could buy CBD in a non-legal/medical state. i don't even think it's illegal so i don't see why it isn't more available
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: Jesus Cristo]
#19226987 - 12/04/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jesus Cristo said:
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Johnny Depp said: Yep, THC vs CBD. It definitely works that way for me. When it's low CBD it can cause me anxiety. It counteracts the THC
I wish you could buy CBD in a non-legal/medical state. i don't even think it's illegal so i don't see why it isn't more available
But isn't CBD not pshycoactive without THC? I read that CBD only acts on the effects of THC, altering it's effects, not producing sole effects of its own.
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: meganthratalica]
#19227638 - 12/04/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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meganthratalica
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: Johnny Depp]
#19227707 - 12/04/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Johnny Depp said: That's pretty much right. CBD alone is being researched and already used in some medical treatments. It's not psychoactive AFAIK. It's been shown to reduce anxiety, so it counteracts THC's paranoia, anxiety, psychosis effects. My idea of good weed is a balance of THC and CBDs. Like smoking a THC potent bowl and taking a xanax. That feeling of euphoric stoniness without the edginess that can creep in there. That's just me though. I've gotten more sensitive to anxiety as I've gotten older.
Yep, that's pretty much what I've heard. Even though heavy indica strains still give me strong anxiety unfortunately. Guess Mary's not for all.
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: meganthratalica]
#19228502 - 12/04/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been wondering about the CBD as well. It's shown to help a lot, but from what I've seen, most potent strains, indica and sativa, are very low CBD and very high THC. I'm sure there's high CBD containing strains of course, but the majority I've seen has been all about the THC.
Wouldn't that be some shit if they decided that THC want necessary for medicinal purposes and started making all medical marijuana grown just to produce high levels of CBD and low to no levels of THC? I dont see it happening, but damn that's pretty sad to think of.
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#19229378 - 12/04/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Regular anxiety and the anxiety I used to get from weed felt very different. I'd choose stoned anxiety over sober anxiety any day. I think y some people don't like weed is it makes them too introspective and self judging which can cause a lot if people to have anxiety. Weed takes away my anxiety 100% now a days. Most of my anxiety caused by weed in my early days of smoking was very irrational, it goes away with experience cuz once u sober up and u realize ur thinking was irrational u won't think that way anymore once u truly realize it. IME
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: PurpleHaze147]
#19229389 - 12/04/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Weed is subjective. Although paranoia is common with cannabinoids... esp synthetics.. I'd say in normal conditions I'm chill stoned..but if I'm like under the spot light speech presentation I'm fucked..
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Re: Weed anxiety vs treating anxiety with weed. [Re: PurpleHaze147]
#19229881 - 12/05/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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PurpleHaze147 said: Most of my anxiety caused by weed in my early days of smoking was very irrational, it goes away with experience cuz once u sober up and u realize ur thinking was irrational u won't think that way anymore once u truly realize it. IME
I feel stuck in between these stages. Unfortunately since childhood I grew up with bad anxiety and social anxiety and didn't understand that I had the power to change this in myself until I was 20. Now I feel very immature for my age (25) and I constantly struggle with anxiety and lack of confidence as well as a poor self image. When I smoke I can keep it together and relax for the first half of the high, and then my introspection, paranoid thoughts and self judgement get the better of my more rational side and I spiral into what feels like a schizophrenic haze/ depression. Which feels fucking awful. Through mindfulness meditation practice and reading stuff like Ram Dass I can pretty much see through the irrational thoughts and dismiss them, but the emotional trauma/ memory is still there and always finds a way to win. Weed triggers nervous tension in my body, it just wells up in my chest no matter how positive or good I start off feeling- neurotic high tension thinking usually follows (then I can't be around other people for a while cause I'm so high strung).
I stopped smoking for a while but recently started again. I'll smoke half way through a meditation practice because I think weed simply turns the volume way up on all the stuff that's under the surface all the time anyway, and its during meditation that I can observe my thinking tenancies and understand the psychological paradigm I'm inside to try and resolve things; find acceptance, retrain bad thinking habits, and rise above the head space I'm stuck in and laugh at how silly I've been acting and how hard I've been trying when the answer is to simply let go. I will let go, but then immediately latch right back on. It feels like swimming to surface to take a breath before inevitably getting pulled back down into the dark waters of trauma.
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