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trippers who dont smoke
    #19187000 - 11/25/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I find that there are many psychonauts that do not smoke weed, and I am curious to know what got them into psychedelics in the first place. Cannabis played a big role in me getting into psychedelics, and I know it has for others as well. But for all you out there that don't, what is it that turned you on to these substances?


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: maddad]
    #19187062 - 11/25/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I used to smoke a lot.

I only really got into psychedelics after I stopped smoking weed completely


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #19187091 - 11/25/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And what really got you into them?


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #19187100 - 11/25/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Got interested in MJ, at first didn't smoke and just did research about. This is where I got interested in psychedelics in general...
Than I smoked MJ for 2 months completely stopped and lived with psychedelics only since then. Oh I've also had a beer like 5-10 times in my life. Coffee all day. My drug of choice.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: mongolian] * 1
    #19187150 - 11/25/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

For as long as I can remember I've had a keen fascination with psychedelics. I remember sitting in class at 14 trying to imagine what LSD would feel like - I first tried it a year later (in non-optimal settings.)

For me, my fascination with psychedelics stems from the same place as my interest in mind and reality. I see them as a tool to peel back the layers of societal conditioning and see things in a more 'pure' form. I'm not foolish enough to imagine this form holds any more truth than other signs, but it helps one keep things in perspective.

Cannabis was something I never really had an interest in. I used to smoke really shitty soapbar with my friends before heading out for a night out. It wasn't until I hit uni that I discovered just how potent cannabis could be. I never really liked the high on its own, but it was nice to drink and smoke.
I've only started to appreciate the high over the past year (I'm in my early 30s) and have consequently been smoking way too much. I prefer to smoke/vape over having a drink now - sadly, all my friends are still pretty much into the bar scene (with added coke.)


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: mongolian]
    #19187183 - 11/25/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I got into psychedelics wayyy before even THINKING about trying cannabis. What got me into psychedelics was back in middle school, I thought shrooms were the shit. I read a book on hallucinogens and psychedelic drugs. It was a book to inform teenagers the dangers of the "terrible" mind altering drugs. Needless to say, I thought it all sounded fantastic, and ever since I've been in love with psychedelics.

Seeing things that arent really there, seeing things in a new perspective, losing time, all that sounded unreal and totally awesome. Nothing in the world would have made me think that's a bad thing.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: InTheCosmos]
    #19187813 - 11/25/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I used to smoke a shit load of weed, but stopped because it gave me anxiety, so now I trip, and do other drugs of choice.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19188155 - 11/25/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Weed was exactly what they say, a gate way drug for me. My interest in psychedelic aspects would never have been heightened without first "getting a taste" of the sort with marijuana.

I believe it prepared me for what psychedelics could bring to the table as well. I can't imagine going right into mushrooms or LSD without having tried weed prior.

I don't smoke anymore, or trip for that matter but I've always wondered what it was like to take psychedelics without having smoked.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: SycoNautix]
    #19188188 - 11/25/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I smoked long before trying psychedelics, but I've always found altered states of consciousness intriguing. I haven't smoked for nearly two years due to probation but I'm almost done with that load of crap. Woohoo lol


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: maddad]
    #19188209 - 11/25/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't smoke weed but. Was a Meth addict. After. Staying up once for 13 days I hallucinated and liked it...soon starting making dmt from mimosa and my first launch changed my life...4 years now Meth free and needle free just weed and psychs never touched Meth after that day


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Dreaming Nomad]
    #19188255 - 11/25/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the input!

It was a gateway drug for me as well. Ozzy said it best "you introduced me to my mind, and left me wanting you and your kind." I wish I didn't love the stuff so much, it puts a pretty large dent in my wallet...

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I didn't smoke weed but. Was a Meth addict. After. Staying up once for 13 days I hallucinated and liked it...soon starting making dmt from mimosa and my first launch changed my life...4 years now Meth free and needle free just weed and psychs never touched Meth after that day




Wow that's pretty heavy man! Awesome to hear of the healing powers of psychedelics, though. I knew a guy who was severely addicted to heroin, and quit cold turkey after one breakthrough DMT experience. Amazing what that stuff can do.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: maddad]
    #19188321 - 11/25/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Dam them opiates get people I never touched any of that...I still love my dkt. Growing my first mushrooms now cannot wait until my first harvest. Dmt I dose one every night lol.. but I want to have more relaxed easy going fun stuff for a chance cannot be serious all the time...


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: maddad]
    #19188330 - 11/25/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I love weed. Can't smoke much these days due to D&A testing at work but when I'm done my next test I am gonna fire up the bong for sure. Funny thing is, I had tried weed lots when I was a kid but never really liked it until I tried acid. LSD was the drug that made me like drugs :lol:

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Growing my first mushrooms now cannot wait until my first harvest.




Get ready to being addicted to growing mushrooms. Also growing mushrooms makes you fantasize about penis. Enjoy!


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19188387 - 11/25/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OK bro you lost on the penis stuff explain? Lol


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: shroomster87]
    #19188421 - 11/25/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Penis envy. Wicked awesome variety. I also like albino penis envy a lot. 2 grams of my albino penis will make you piss your pants and fall on the floor.



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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19188470 - 11/25/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You said fantasize


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: shroomster87]
    #19188494 - 11/25/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Its a cultivation joke. Just like growing shrooms makes you gay. PENIS envy. Good stuff.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19188522 - 11/25/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh OK lol I get it.. still trying to figure out if mycellium is gods jizz or alien. Jizz


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: shroomster87]
    #19188552 - 11/25/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

God IS an alien :aliendance:


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19188568 - 11/25/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

True you make a very good point. Hey. If you get a chance can you go to my first grow page and check it out maybe some tips or something lol.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: shroomster87]
    #19188623 - 11/25/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I used to smoke cannabis but it started giving me anxiety so I quit. I actually wasn't a big smoker when I first started using psychs. I was a alcohol and I was it of alcohol on a Sunday and my buddy offered me a hit as an alternative. Quit drinking that day and started smoking more often. Now I rarely drink alcohol and rarely smoke cannabis. I also rarely trip but if I could tip once a month then I definitely would!


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: maddad]
    #19189489 - 11/25/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i cant imagine taking shrooms and not smoking bud. I usually smoke a bong or 2 when I start to feel nausous. Helps make me feel better. :wink:


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: SycoNautix]
    #19190753 - 11/26/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Weed was exactly what they say, a gate way drug for me. My interest in psychedelic aspects would never have been heightened without first "getting a taste" of the sort with marijuana.

I believe it prepared me for what psychedelics could bring to the table as well. I can't imagine going right into mushrooms or LSD without having tried weed prior.

I don't smoke anymore, or trip for that matter but I've always wondered what it was like to take psychedelics without having smoked.



yeah, I wonder the same thing too.
I had smoked weed a few times summer goijng into my senior year of HS for the first time. Summer post-grad I was smoking more (drug tested during the year) and is also when I first tried L.
I'd been interested in L and psychs for quite some time, though - the weed didn't spark the interest.
Don't know many people who trip and don't smoke - everyone I know who does L or shrooms smokes a lot, probably too much for their own good, admittedly.
I don't like to smoke on L until roughly 5 hours after taking it, but again, most people I know will smoke the whole trip.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Absent Minded]
    #19191759 - 11/26/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm one of those who don't smoke weed. I got interested in psychedelics by exploring altered states of consciousness through meditation and lucid dreaming.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: woaronun]
    #19191787 - 11/26/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I really enjoy smoking weed, but every time I trip, I always think about how pointless it is for me at least.  It's fun, but it's not something I need to do all the time, and I think psychedelics are trying to tell me that.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: dddd]
    #19191800 - 11/26/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If I smoke weed while on mushrooms I'm gonna hit the floor. It was ok to do that when i was young and bought crap shrooms on the street, but if I did that now it would be game over :crazy2:


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: woaronun]
    #19192233 - 11/26/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm one of those who don't smoke weed. I got interested in psychedelics by exploring altered states of consciousness through meditation and lucid dreaming.



have you ever?


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Absent Minded]
    #19192265 - 11/26/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

always wondered what LSD was like

then I did some research, and tried to find it for a long time

then it found me when I had given up :-)

also.. lucid dreaming most of my life, often used a few hours on it so interested in exploring the mind
movies like the matrix, office space, takedown (hackers)
persons like timothy leary, albert hofmann, terence mckenna, john lennon
needed to tune in a bit, always been interested in hacking stuff/exploring mindstates, why not hack the brain? :wink:

tried weed maybe 1-2 years, wasnt my thing
it only sedated me, didnt really do what I wanted

LSD,Mushrooms,Salvia are great - only drugs I like
cant get myself to smoke salvia more than max once a year though, its pretty intense :-)

the only drug better than LSD is lucid dreaming, but unfortunately it isnt possible to do on command easily it seems
always a bit random.. requires lots of silence in environment too etc.

http://www.erowid.org/general/survey/survey_lsd8_quotes1.shtml
people seem to experience the same with LSD often, same for me as that survey often
(found it after doing LSD about 100-150 times)

only trip LSD 1-3 times a year max or so, hard to find where I live, but it is my favorite
mushrooms are just as good though

take LSD, be open to what you receive, but dont accept anything that doesnt make sense
it can expand the mind sometimes/give clarity
if you use it right, you will only receive stuff that makes sense and is useful for you, no delusions
set,setting,dose  , intent, nature etc.

my way of using it was to heal my own problems (depression), that worked perfectly and seems to last up to 1 year after not using


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Absent Minded]
    #19192299 - 11/26/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm one of those who don't smoke weed. I got interested in psychedelics by exploring altered states of consciousness through meditation and lucid dreaming.



have you ever?


Yes. I just don't have the desire since I pretty much feel peaceful and relaxed all day every day anyway.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: woaronun]
    #19194975 - 11/27/13 02:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Haha, yeah, never smoked weed in my life before, don't really intend to either. Don't really drink either (I don't like the way alcohol makes me feel). Done shrooms 4 times though. I went from stone-cold sobriety into the psychedelic plane in one violent push.

My one friend said : "You went through the gateway wrong..."

I'm happy with shrooms and have no desire to try other substances.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: lessismore]
    #19194993 - 11/27/13 02:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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the only drug better than LSD is lucid dreaming, but unfortunately it isnt possible to do on command easily it seems
always a bit random.. requires lots of silence in environment too etc.






Check out Galantamine.

I posted a journal on an experience with it here:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17775781

I've experienced LDs/OBEs all my life but Galantamine has pushed them to a level I didn't think possible.


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    #19195229 - 11/27/13 06:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm happy with shrooms and have no desire to try other substances.



That might be a little weird, but nothing wrong with it :thumbup:


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19196100 - 11/27/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i stopped smoking and now do rarely, it smoked doing whatever it did for me, it never did  much but provide a little amusement. trips or rolls are way more intensely satisfying and can be enjoyed once in a while, i like the trade off.  I'm a hell of a lot more energetic and in touch with than i used to be smoking all the time, but really weed was a necessary gateway and a period i had to get over.  its odd really, sometimes weed highs are pleasant and sometimes hold some anxiousness or paranoia, which can be handled by just reaffirming whats going on, what the moment is, and settling into it.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Dough]
    #19196193 - 11/27/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I used to smoke a lot, but after a while it became unpleasant. The problem for me personally was that doing it all the time carelessly started to make it boring or depressing once I was no longer a teenager. Teenage brains just react differently to drugs, I believe there are studies on it.
Hallucinogens on the other hand are more, idk deliberate? (though the hallucinogenic properties of weed should be noted) Less casual anyway. In that sense I find that they're quite different and it doesn't surprise me at all that many people enjoy tripping every now and then but prefer to be sober most of the time. Pot itself can just feel negative, though I suspect a lot of this is from pesticides and such.


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Re: trippers who dont smoke [Re: Oliveaux]
    #19197725 - 11/27/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well for me personally going through highschool I had always been friends with people that would smoke weed all the time and every time theyd offer me some to where it just became a ritual. It didn't bother me that they kept asking I just didn't really want to smoke. Also going through highschool I never did any drugs, maybe drank some here and there but that was it. It's hard now remembering what i thought then but I think I was thinking I'm fine without drugs. But, there was always something about hallucinogens that sort of piqued my interest. From what little i knew about them i knew they were safe for the most part and that if i was ever to try something it would probably be LSD. So fast forward about two years and I had moved away to do some secondary education at a trade school, finished that, and moved back. I started hanging out with my old friends again and this one fateful day it was me and two other guys driving around a bit and they started texting this guy and said they were gonna meet him later to pick up some stuff. Of course I have to ask "What are y'all getting?"
and he says "we're getting some LSD". So a few minutes go by and I'm thinking and then I just say "can I get one?"
Long story short that had to be one of the best nights of my life. We didn't really do anything awesome or special, just a few guys tripping on LSD one for his first time and just having an amazing time of it. It just opened my eyes to all kinds of new things. That was the only time I believe that I've ever had real LSD. All the other times have been RC's 25i mostly. But sometime after that I tried mushrooms for the first time and was awestruck yet again. shortly after that I found you can grow them, did a whole bunch of research, and now I grow more than I could ask for.
I can count the number of times I've smoked pot on two hands and everytime I'm just like eh. And as a matter of fact I more so dislike smoking pot. Eating it to get high is fine but still I'm more or less not that impressed and don't see why people do it everyday. Needless to say it's not for me. I'll take some hallucinogens before I would pot any day.


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