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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Crystal G]
#19186855 - 11/25/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: Completely unrelated, but I watched the most disturbing episode of "Disappeared" ever: http://movies.netflix.com/WiPlayer?movieid=70289588&trkid=3325854
One black guy and one Mexican illegal immigrant "disappeared" under mysterious circumstances after they both had a run-in with the same deputy. Both of these men should have been arrested for driving without licenses, but both of them "mysteriously" vanished into thin air after the deputy placed them in the back of the cop car and drove off, never to be seen again. His story is that he allegedly dropped both of them off at the Circle K after they disappeared, which strikes me as an obvious lie.
His name is Deputy Steven Caulkins. Internal affairs had to investigate this deputy and he failed a polygraph and GPS on his device located him to 12 possible remote areas where he may have buried some bodies, but no bodies ever turned up in the areas. But he remains free to this day, no charges on him have ever been filed.
This deputy definitely had something to do with their disappearances. Watch that episode man, it gave me the creeps. "Disappeared" Season 5 Episode 4
i just read about that the other day. freaky, that someone was so vehement about people having their license on them while driving, that he killed people for not having it.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: akira_akuma]
#19186866 - 11/25/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Allegedly...
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
#19186870 - 11/25/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes, according to the "scary story" which we'll all enjoy... except you. killjoy.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
#19187486 - 11/25/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: All dogs are exempt from morality. Morality is a human construct. As far as freedom goes, that depends on how you define freedom. If you mean the ability to run around naked and piss where you want...sure. If you mean the freedom to choose where you're going to go and what you're going to do, not so much.
Do you have the freedom to take a shit in the street?
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: lowbrow]
#19187505 - 11/25/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, and neither do my dogs.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
#19187561 - 11/25/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Zombi3]
#19187679 - 11/25/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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so... iono, the OP's vid isn't convincing me that the cops are acting in any way that should be judged. i mean... if the guys is doing his job and not jerking off on the job and letting obvious tips fly by, he is helping the situation. like, if he hadn't been curious about the kid he COULD have been someone who was drugged up and smashed into you on the highway and killed everyone in your car. likewise, given the fact that cops are this quick to jump down someone's throat - somehow the 911 bombing still happened.
i guess i'm saying there are instances where we need ppl like this, and i COULD HAVE benefit from ppl like this is spots where there were none.
i would judge a cop who pulls you over in the middle of the fucking country, in the middle of the night, for cruising in the passing lane and then gives you three $100 dollar tickets for ignoring traffic signals and blah blah blah.
i only watched the first vid tho, i should watch the rest.
[EDIT] ok the second video is pretty bad. beating an unconscious guy ejected from his car is... iono, that's bad.
man, i dunno who is terroristing who here... what a mess.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
#19187869 - 11/25/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: No, and neither do my dogs.
Police dogs and horses are allowed to.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: lowbrow]
#19187896 - 11/25/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's because the police let them do it.
That's my point. The horses and the dogs don't get the choice. They do what they are allowed to do by their owners...That is about as close to freedom as antebellum slaves had it.
My dogs can do whatever I allow them to do and nothing more.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
#19191593 - 11/26/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: That's because the police let them do it.
That's my point. The horses and the dogs don't get the choice. They do what they are allowed to do by their owners...That is about as close to freedom as antebellum slaves had it.
My dogs can do whatever I allow them to do and nothing more.
But if you let your dog shit in the street or on the sidewalk, you are legally liable to clean it up. When a police dog or horse does it, it's with full impunity, the cops leave that shit.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: lowbrow]
#19191611 - 11/26/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, you're saying that the cops have more rights than me? I agree with that. I've never said otherwise.
It still doesn't change the fact that neither the dogs, nor the horse, have any rights at all.
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#19191622 - 11/26/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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is that because horses cant represent themselves in court?
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: spazmodog]
#19191632 - 11/26/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's because horses can have everything they have (including their life) taken from them for any reason or no reason at all at any time by their owners. The very fact that horses can BE owned proves that they have no rights.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
#19191637 - 11/26/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: So, you're saying that the cops have more rights than me? I agree with that. I've never said otherwise.
It still doesn't change the fact that neither the dogs, nor the horse, have any rights at all.
They have plenty of defacto rights. More than me.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: lowbrow]
#19191641 - 11/26/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope. You've yet to articulate a single right they have.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
#19191655 - 11/26/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: It's because horses can have everything they have (including their life) taken from them for any reason or no reason at all at any time by their owners. The very fact that horses can BE owned proves that they have no rights.
but they have pseudo-rights, i mean you cant keep an animal in squalor and abuse it.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: spazmodog]
#19191676 - 11/26/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That isn't based on the right of the animal, however. In fact, most abused animals that are seized are killed by the agency that seizes them....That makes it pretty clear that the animal's rights weren't the motivation for seizing them in the first place.
Animal cruelty laws are not based on the rights of the animal. They are based on a societal interest in reducing such behavior. Animals are strictly property under the law. Similarly, you're not allowed to remove the muffler from your car and drive it...that doesn't mean the car has rights. It means society doesn't want your loud ass car driving around. Society doesn't want to see certain animals harmed in certain ways, either.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: spazmodog]
#19191714 - 11/26/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Police animals have the de facto right to defecate anyplace of their choosing.
Police animals have the de facto status of human being in the case of one of their deaths at the hands of a civilian. Technically they have the post humous right to try their killer in a court of law as if they killed a human.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: lowbrow]
#19191724 - 11/26/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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They have none of those rights, and they do not have the status of a human being. Killing a dog is not murder in any state regardless of the owner of the dog. Killing a police dog is an offense, but so is damaging a police car...That doesn't mean that a police car has rights.
You've been talking out of your ass in this thread for awhile, unless/until you come up with a better argument, I've got to leave you to your ignorance.
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Re: Fucking hate pigs even more after watching this... [Re: Enlil]
#19191758 - 11/26/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: That isn't based on the right of the animal, however. In fact, most abused animals that are seized are killed by the agency that seizes them....That makes it pretty clear that the animal's rights weren't the motivation for seizing them in the first place.
Animal cruelty laws are not based on the rights of the animal. They are based on a societal interest in reducing such behavior. Animals are strictly property under the law. Similarly, you're not allowed to remove the muffler from your car and drive it...that doesn't mean the car has rights. It means society doesn't want your loud ass car driving around. Society doesn't want to see certain animals harmed in certain ways, either.
Yes. So if you asked people wether they beleived that domesticated animals should have a right to a decent life. Many people would say yes
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