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DangerousSloth
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First Grow - Mistakes may have been made
#19186705 - 11/25/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So after having my fear of exploding jars went away, my friend arrived and we began the PF Tek. This is the first time I have ever posted something like this, so I apologize in advance if I got the format wrong or anything like that.
All tips, criticisms, and advice is appreciated.
 We will be using two different strains, the PF Classic and Treasure Coast.
 The plan was to start small for our first grow, only doing 6 jars, 3 for each strain, using the PF Tek.
  The first thing we did was flip the lids upside down and drill 4 holes just slightly bigger than the syringe needle.
 We then proceeded to mix the vermiculite and water, mixing in the BRF that we made after the vermiculite had soaked up the majority of the water.

 We filled each jar most of the way up, placing a layer of dry vermiculite on top and then covering each jar with tin foil.


 After all 6 jars were ready to be sterilized, I placed a layer of jar lid rings around the bottom of the pot, then a layer of tinfoil, then a layer of more lid rings on top. We placed the jars in and put enough water in so it was barely touching the jars. We set it to boil, hoping no explosions would be had.
 No explosions, but sadly about halfway through the sterilization process, one jar fell and caused the others to fall like dominoes. I hoped that no water would seep into the jars and the jars wouldn't be too fucked up, as I got them back into place within a few seconds of them falling over. They were steam sterilized for about 90-100 minutes (after boiling began).
 All six jars appeared to be in tact, no cracks or anything.

 Upon closer inspection 2 of the jars looked quite different from the others, leading me to think that they got a lot of water/moisture inside of them.
Currently waiting for the jars to cool so we can begin inoculation.
Things I'm worried about: The two jars that may have been filled with water when they fell. Do these jars look useless at this point? Or should I still inoculate them? The substrate formula used. I saw a lot of varying numbers in regard to this, so I just did a ratio of 1 part BRF, 1 part water, and 2 parts vermiculite. Did we mess up?
Will continue to update with progress.
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: DangerousSloth]
#19186769 - 11/25/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lesson#1: Make more than you need. Murphy's law always kicks in when you don't.
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: NOS4A2]
#19187181 - 11/25/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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those two are toast, don't bother with them and your recipe was fine
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: cronicr]
#19187665 - 11/25/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: those two are toast, don't bother with them and your recipe was fine
yea they look really wet. You can give them a try if you want and make more spore syringes with prints from your grow but if you want to save those precious spores since you're just starting off I might just re-make those two jars.
Everything else looks good. Have a look at the first link in my signature if you have some time to read up.
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: bodhisatta]
#19227369 - 12/04/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update: I scrapped the two water logged jars. I would have just redone them but I was restricted with time, so now I just have 4 jars, which is fine as this is my first attempt so I wasn't expecting much anyway.


The Treasure Coast jars are colonizing pretty quickly, much faster than the PF Classic jars. Already, the mycelium completely wraps around the jar, just waiting for it to reach the bottom.


The PF Classic jars just started showing signs of colonization a couple of days ago, but they aren't even close to the Treasure Coast jars, only one spot on both jars.
Everything seems to be going well, however there is one problem I'm concerned with. I am leaving for NYC on the 21st of December and I'm worried that I will have to leave these things to their own devices.
What are the chances of these jars being completely colonized and fruited before the 21st? And if there isn't any chance of that happening what would be the best course of action?
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: DangerousSloth]
#19227389 - 12/04/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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if those are pints i doubt they will be ready anyway, they have tendencys to be slow colonizers and even if they are done the extra consolidation is fine, take the foil off or you risk your verm barrier getting moist
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: DangerousSloth]
#19227401 - 12/04/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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When will you be back? Once your jars have colonized fully to the naked eye, it's best to let them consolidate for at least a week until you move to SGFC. You have some time to play with here..
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: cronicr]
#19227413 - 12/04/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: take the foil off or you risk your verm barrier getting moist
 I learned this one the hard way. The foil is just to prevent water dripping onto the top of your jar during PC. Once you've moved to incubation, remove them. Dry verm layer is very good security.
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: TheMustardTiger]
#19227623 - 12/04/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like a really nice first attempt to me, but quick question. It looks like you just have 4 (1/8"?) holes. Are they covered with micro-pore tape or anything right now?
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: Ophi]
#19227778 - 12/04/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They dont need to be the dry verm acts as a barrier/filter
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19227798 - 12/04/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was curious because if they were covered with anything that could explain the slow colonization. (Little or no air exchange)
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: Ophi]
#19229775 - 12/05/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The foil has been removed as recommended. And I will be gone from the 21st to the 28th.
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: DangerousSloth]
#19288926 - 12/17/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So the Treasure Coast jars are fully colonized, pics are on the way. I'm leaving for NYC on Saturday and won't be back for a full week. Would it be ok to just leave them for a week, or would that be too long? I have a friend who could look after them and fruit them if need be, but I'd prefer not to move them all over the place.
What would be the best option?
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: DangerousSloth]
#19288953 - 12/17/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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put them somewhere dark and fruit when you get back
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Re: First Grow - Mistakes may have been made [Re: DangerousSloth]
#19288962 - 12/17/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Need to sit a week or so after full colonization to consolidate anyway
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