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Duggstar



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Aminita Dosage question
#19186488 - 11/25/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can anyone eyeball this A. muscaria and tell me how much, or if it's enought for a threshold experience? This mushroom weighed about 50g when wet. I am an 83kg male.


Edited by Duggstar (11/25/13 11:53 AM)
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maddad
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Re: Aminita Dosage question [Re: Duggstar]
#19186777 - 11/25/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It should be enough for a threshold dose, but beware of the amanitas. A lot of weird stuff going on with those things. Not to mention that the most poisonous mushroom know to science comes from the same family. It appears to me that you picked that yourself, in which case I would definitely suggest you look into the species that live in your area.
I have had only one experience with these mushrooms, and that will be my last. I don't recall much of what happened, I just remember being very disoriented. I seemed to be at a loss of everything, words, memory, motor skills. Extremely difficult to integrate. I also ate 5 caps knowing nothing of dosage at the time. I have heard of people having good experiences, but they are just not for me. And as I said before, identification of these is key!
Safe travels!
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Re: Aminita Dosage question [Re: maddad]
#19187161 - 11/25/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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take less next time
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maddad
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Re: Aminita Dosage question [Re: Deathcore]
#19187192 - 11/25/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nah, I'll stick to psilocybin mushrooms. I have a much more pleasant experience. I have a difficult time with deliriant-type substances.
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Duggstar



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Re: Aminita Dosage question [Re: maddad]
#19187469 - 11/25/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've decided not to do it tonight. I'm not expecting to enjoy it very much, if at all, anyway. I'm more into psychedelics, but I'm just curious though. But this just sounds like being really wasted drunk? I think I'll wait until sometime after christmas when I'm really bored and nothing to do the next day.
So what about preparation? I've heard that you have to boil it for hours or something and I'm not sure if I could be bothered. What is the point of that? Can't you just eat it dried as it is?
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Re: Aminita Dosage question [Re: Duggstar]
#19187493 - 11/25/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No just make tea out of dried caps for 30 mins gently simmering or eat dried like chips.
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Re: Aminita Dosage question [Re: Fungi]
#19188556 - 11/25/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've just had this identified as Amanita muscaria sensu stricto, does this make a difference as regards the potency?
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Re: Aminita Dosage question [Re: Duggstar]
#19188652 - 11/25/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
POTENCY VARIATION : Most people start quite low when first working with Amanita muscaria, especially with an untested variety. Usually 1 small to medium cap is used as a starting dose. Once the strength of a given sample is known, dosages closer to 1-5 caps totaling 5-20 grams of dried material may be taken.
The potency of individual A. muscaria mushrooms is highy variable, seemingly dependent upon the season in which they are picked and significant regional variations.
Mushrooms from the same area in different seasons may have different effects (ratio of nausea/body effects to mental/entheogenic effects).
"The most powerful mushrooms were picked in the middle of August when the season was beginning. In the mushroom picked in September the narcotic and physical effects were predominant whereas in August the "visionary" and psychedelic effects were more highlighted. " from Disembodied Eyes
The skin and the layer of material directly underneath is considered the most potent.
CONSTITUENTS : The entheogenic constituents of A. muscaria are ibotenic acid (alpha-amino3-hydroxy-5-isoxazole acetic acid), muscimol (3hydroxy-5-aminomethy1 isoxazole), and possibly muscazone (Ott). Muscimol appears to be the primary intoxicant. After ingestion, a small amount of ibotenic acid decarboxylates into muscimol, which produces the intoxication.
Taken orally, ibotenic acid is entheogenically active at 50-100 mg (Ott and Stafford)
Taken orally, muscimol displays activity at 10-15 mg
This is taken from erowid.com in the amanitas dosage section.
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