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long term benzo use fucking sucks
    #19186434 - 11/25/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've been taking xanax for years. Once you get to a certain dose you can't go any higher. Said dose doesn't have the same effect after not too long. I get sick a little after 4 hours of taking 1mg. I have horrible anxiety too and you could argue it's worse by the physical addiction to the drug, I've run out and been sick before. Fucking HORRIBLE.

Fuck benzos. Is there anyone who's actually got really bad anxiety who both managed to get off this shit and found an alternative that actually helps with anxiety?


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #19187312 - 11/25/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

fuck these things for real, it's to the point where the dose i'm prescribed doesn't even manage the anxiety, and if i take more i run out at some point and believe me, benzo sickness is the fucking worst.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #19187351 - 11/25/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have to taper down the dosage whilst instituting therapeutic substitutes to learn how to manage anxiety naturally, everyone has it.  Im in a similar boat brother benzo use does suck.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #19187874 - 11/25/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why not try etizolam? It's easy to access online and could help you if you run out of your prescribed dose early? I suggest not doing it but there ya go.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #19189399 - 11/25/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why not try etizolam? It's easy to access online and could help you if you run out of your prescribed dose early? I suggest not doing it but there ya go.




I actually thought about this before, my boy who as far back as I can remember was always the first to know about new drugs told me about it. I kinda got in trouble years ago ordering a shit load of wippets to my house though, but honestly that's probably the best idea. I can't just stop taking benzos I genuinely need them, but supposedly the max dose is 6mg a day, i've been at 5mg a day for like 3 years.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #19190672 - 11/26/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've been taking xanax for years. Once you get to a certain dose you can't go any higher. Said dose doesn't have the same effect after not too long. I get sick a little after 4 hours of taking 1mg. I have horrible anxiety too and you could argue it's worse by the physical addiction to the drug, I've run out and been sick before. Fucking HORRIBLE.

Fuck benzos. Is there anyone who's actually got really bad anxiety who both managed to get off this shit and found an alternative that actually helps with anxiety?




I was on benzos for 20 years - xanax, restoril, valium, clonopin and finally meprobamate (miltown).  At one point I started studying again and I needed my memory so I quit them all.  I took them for many reasons including anxiety but they never helped and I got the paradoxical rage thing pretty badly. 

Now for sleep I take 200 mg benedryl and it's better than any benzo for sleep. I was on some other mental pills for awhile - celexa, mirtazapine, etc, they all sucked for me and made my feelings more erratic and gave me extreme anxiety. The mental pills did it.  When I gave them up my natural physiology and emotional state were much much better normally.

This urge to drug things away can have serious and very subtle side effects.  Benzos themselves can create paradoxical rage and anxiety.....

What was the advice - your own body make better chems that they can prescribe you.  Don't believe the hype.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: eve69]
    #19191121 - 11/26/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well, the sad thing is if I just could take 2mg instead of 1 at a time, seems like problem solved. But unless I had an extra script to buy illicitly I'd run out, and even if so I'd have to depend on that every month. Etizolam maybe gonna check that out.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #19195124 - 11/27/13 05:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well I am not promoting benzo use because from experience they ruin memory and learning ability, and so to my thinking run counter to the whole point of life.  But the real solution would be to get long half life benzos such as clonopin or ativan. Ativan is about three times longer lasting that xanax and about the same potency.  Xanax isn't good for long term treatment because of the 2 hour half life.  Thing is once someone is used to xanax it's hard to switch to other benzos because they are not quite as 'felt' as xanax.  But I forgot what the specifics on your use are -I read it yesterday - but if you're having migraines, seizures, that sort of thing then clonopin is more prescribed. Anxiety demands a drug with longer length of action - without trading alertness - for that I wouldn't know what to prescribe. Have you tried buspar or trazadone? Yes, I know they suck. They never worked for me.  I had to just give it all up. When the system isn't working it's doubtful smacking it with a hammer will do anything.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: eve69]
    #19195618 - 11/27/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Have you ever looked into CBD? Im personally looking into it myself. I feel for you man, at one point I realized xanax was changing me too. I threw them out, 2mg bars, like ten of em because it wasn't me. Instead, I tried Kava for a while. I tried kratom. I've tried smoking weed, which just makes it worse. I have a personal vendetta towards xanax though. I both saw my brother change entirely and lost him in the span of 3 months. Obviously the patient is just as guilty as the prescription/doctor. I do t know, I just feel benzos especially are not the way to handle anxiety. Anything synthetic should never be taken longer than 2 weeks for anything in my opinion.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: Atrium]
    #19196265 - 11/27/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm going to be etizolam regularly when my gram arrives (hopefully this week). I hear it has lower addictive potential and less chance of withdrawals but even then I am worried I will use it too much and become dependent.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #19196310 - 11/27/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've been taking xanax for years. Once you get to a certain dose you can't go any higher. Said dose doesn't have the same effect after not too long. I get sick a little after 4 hours of taking 1mg. I have horrible anxiety too and you could argue it's worse by the physical addiction to the drug, I've run out and been sick before. Fucking HORRIBLE.

Fuck benzos. Is there anyone who's actually got really bad anxiety who both managed to get off this shit and found an alternative that actually helps with anxiety?




Yes, it can be horrible.

For me and you it is different because I take 1 mg klonopins twice a day. Yes, the effect of the drug has eventually worn off, but there are ways around it that I have found for myself.

Every once in a while, when I have some days off to myself, I will hold my afternoon dose and begin to wean off the drug. Doing this frequently and keeping your levels of anxiety under control are important.

I like to use the drug for school, wean off during breaks, and get back on during school.

That is what I do.


But for you it is different. Ask your doctor about Klonopin. The difference between Xanax and Klonopin is that Xanax is fast acting and short lasting. Klonopin takes about an hour to kick in but it lasts for many hours.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: XUL]
    #19196347 - 11/27/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Switched to kpins at one point. Kpins fucking suck, 1mg of xanax is more effective than 2mg of klonopin.


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Re: long term benzo use fucking sucks [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #19196840 - 11/27/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Switched to kpins at one point. Kpins fucking suck, 1mg of xanax is more effective than 2mg of klonopin.




That varies from person to person.


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