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Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium
    #19185790 - 11/25/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hi shroomery what u guys think about these 100% mycelium kits ?

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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms] * 1
    #19185811 - 11/25/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

People on shroomery really dislike kits
They're not really worth it plus unless u know everything besides how to make the kit ur still going to have difficulties growing cause its not fool proof. Use pf  tek with a shotgun fruiting chamber n ull be good to go. Cheaper ull learn muchhh more and its all reuseable. Kits are hit or miss


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: dpomalia]
    #19185852 - 11/25/13 08:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know how to do the little guy with a sign... BUT what he said^

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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #19185890 - 11/25/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Kits suck.. you would be better off buying a hawaian syringe and a few grain/ verm bags you can fruit in if your looking for shrooms with little to no effort.. ive always been fond of hawiian.. ive always got monsters out of it.. i know i know genetics etc but im just nostalgic for it haha


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19185901 - 11/25/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Kits never worked for me plus it takes all the fun out of growing your own from start to finish


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: wayneshy465]
    #19185935 - 11/25/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What about if I buy the 100% mycelium kit and then put it in a fruiting chamber ?? And not use the grow bag I'm not looking for the best results only enough to get a few people trippy haha


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19185983 - 11/25/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What about if I buy the 100% mycelium kit and then put it in a fruiting chamber ?? And not use the grow bag I'm not looking for the best results only enough to get a few people trippy haha



Those sorts of kits probably will get you a few fruits it you don't mess them up but you won't learn the trade and will be overpaying for the convenience. When you include shipping that thing is going to run you over $40 euro. For that price you can almost get a setup to do PF tek and use it over and over. If you think about the pressure cooker and jars as one time costs and you can keep using them for years and you'll actually learn the trade without relying on some way overpriced kit. Its probably not what you want to hear, you just want to have a few trips. But here's a link to a good thread I wrote on how excited new mycologists get ripped off http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17081911 and you sound like you'd benefit from reading it.

And there's no guarantee with that kit. It might be 40 euro down the toilet and you still might not get any fruits. Most importantly the #1 rule of shroom growing is tell no one. I know you'll want to show your friends and stuff, but just don't. Don't tell anyone in real life, ever.

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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19186005 - 11/25/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with everyone above. Kits don't get you no where. You don't know how they were prepared yet alone if they will produce. It's so much better and cheaper to learn and start with pf tek. This hobby requires patience and without it you won't get shit.  Kits likely fail and are not worth the money and/or energy spent. Here's a good thread to read, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19058406/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: DannyDGAF]
    #19186011 - 11/25/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What happened to all those lovely wavy caps in your backyard? :wink:


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #19186023 - 11/25/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They gone now it's been the first frost they were lovely and very potent haha was tripping every weekend you think they will come back next year ??


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19186090 - 11/25/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think they will if they sporulated all over, but I'm no expert on that matter.


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19186234 - 11/25/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Hi shroomery what u guys think about these 100% mycelium kits ?

Hawaiian cubensis









I highly doubt you will ever get those results from a kit....kinda too good to be true...most likely the perfect picture to try and sell you a kit......

Do it yourself and save some money.....

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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: PussyFart]
    #19186340 - 11/25/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Is it legal to buy 100% mycelium  kits in uk ??


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19186360 - 11/25/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cubensis mycelium is illegal, along with many other psychoactive mushroom mycelium.


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #19186444 - 11/25/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah... Make your own.
I once got a grow kit and they thought that putting perlite in a brf jar was ok...
After watching jars I made fly past the kit jars, I vowed never again.


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: blojo02184]
    #19186459 - 11/25/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So why do they sell these 100% mycelium kits if your not allowed to buy them ??


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19186496 - 11/25/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They sell them to separate you from your money.

Plain and simple.

And you are allowed to buy them....legally possessing them wherever you live is a different story.


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: PussyFart]
    #19188460 - 11/25/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It states on the site that they can't ship to us and a bunch of other country's but it don't say anything about uk also this site has pretty good ratings 300 grams upto 700 you can yield from these little kits I'm willing to take the risk for some pocket change haha


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19188545 - 11/25/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It states on the site that they can't ship to us and a bunch of other country's but it don't say anything about uk also this site has pretty good ratings 300 grams upto 700 you can yield from these little kits I'm willing to take the risk for some pocket change haha




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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Rubestoad]
    #19188671 - 11/25/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Lol no need for the :facepalm: considering it's not the site that's saying it it's the people that have bought there product so unless all there customers are lying ive made a massive error on judgment haha also I have seen some bad rep on there site but on different products this one just so happens to have nothing but good comments ????


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19188703 - 11/25/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you want mushrooms to trip on......Kits work fine.

If you want to learn a new rewarding Hobbies.... Do it yourself. (Way more shrooms than you can ever consume)


All that being said, the mycology that we are talking about are of course edibles, and any illegal species that might be talked about on this site is referring to spores and microscopy only. (Disclaimer)


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Sockadin]
    #19188731 - 11/25/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ok bruva I fully understand now why a lot of people dislike kits haha


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19188995 - 11/25/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i made a website for my company once. and i gave it good reviews several times....

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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Rubestoad]
    #19189769 - 11/25/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I learned first hand after making the mistake of buying a kit that they're a waste of money. They give you inaccurate instruction and cheap and/or unnecessary supplies that make you look like an idiot for trying to use.. I ended up drilling the incubator/fruiting chamber they provided into an sgfc and couldn't be happier


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: NiNJa420]
    #19190544 - 11/26/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ok then what do u guys think about this

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=121211272345

Then I will buy the sores online ?


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19190558 - 11/26/13 06:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Most scam sites/sites that want to move there shitty product post fake reviews.. never go by the rwviews of questionable websites


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19190559 - 11/26/13 06:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just buy mycobags from a sponsor if your not gonna make the jars or bags yourself.. you can get brf bags for 3.50 us dollars that will produce more than some shitty kit


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19190578 - 11/26/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ok thanks for the help and I understand about the rep thing now haha found some more wavy caps in my back yard but don't know if there worth picking there's about 9 that I can see and it's really starting to get cold but it's not freezing ATM ???



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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19190580 - 11/26/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You can support this site by supporting it's sponsors.  Many of them will give you something extra if you mention you're a member also.


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19190596 - 11/26/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Ok then what do u guys think about this

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=121211272345

Then I will buy the sores online ?



>>>>6x Sterile grow pots - small (only requires one injection site in the centre, 05-1ml spore solution per pot

That is not even good for PF tek because you do 4 injection holes per wide mouth jar. The humidity dome looks kind of crappy too. For 25 pounds plus shipping, whats that about $40? You can buy a dozen wide mouth jars, BRF, vermiculite, and a spore syringe for that much. I don't think you'll find a kit of any kind experienced growers will give the nod to. Just do the PF tek.


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19190605 - 11/26/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sorry but I'm just looking for the cheapest way possible I don't have a pressure cooker they to expensive :frown:


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19190625 - 11/26/13 06:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Like i said.. buy brf bags for $3.50 each.. you can fruot right in the bag.. its better than buying that jello mold or whatever it is you linked to on ebay haha


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19190626 - 11/26/13 06:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ive had great success in the past just steam sterilizing brf jars in a pot.. you dont NEED a Pc to get started..


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19190656 - 11/26/13 07:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Anecdotal evidence, doesn't a good kit make.

Listen to the good people on this site - when they say kits suck, they mean you can get better results and be certain of all of your process for very little money. So why take the risk of a kit even if there's a couple positive comments?

P.S. watch the let's grow mushrooms videos by RR - I doubt you have given the questions you ask. That is the cheapest, easiest and most common way to start.

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19190678 - 11/26/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How do I go about making the medium and using these brf bags ??


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: urthtown]
    #19190685 - 11/26/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How do I go about making the medium and using these brf bags ??




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P.S. watch the let's grow mushrooms videos by RR - I doubt you have given the questions you ask. That is the cheapest, easiest and most common way to start.

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek




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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: urthtown]
    #19190690 - 11/26/13 07:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The brf bags i am refering  are half pound brf/verm bags that are presterilized.. just inject spores and wait.. its that simple


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: urthtown]
    #19190693 - 11/26/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How do I go about making the medium and using these brf bags ??




Quote:

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P.S. watch the let's grow mushrooms videos by RR - I doubt you have given the questions you ask. That is the cheapest, easiest and most common way to start.

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek




:whathesaid:

Don't be lazy. Watch the damn video.





I'm not lol I'm on mobile no vids show up on link ??


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19190733 - 11/26/13 07:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Also these what you were talking about



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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19190743 - 11/26/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes sir


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19190757 - 11/26/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Grate look forward to ordering some


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19190893 - 11/26/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wow it's guna cost me £60 to get 2 bags delivered to me  a little out of my price range haha wtf


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19190917 - 11/26/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Go to the shroomery vendor forum.. check out each indivodual supply vendor and  sure you can find one maybe in the uk if thats where ya at..


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19223731 - 12/03/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lol been looking for like a week now still haven't found any in uk this sucks :frown:


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19223739 - 12/03/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Still haven't found any in uk :frown:

Cheepest ones I can find

http://m.ebay.ca/itm?itemId=170602864662


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19223919 - 12/03/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dude, like everyone here has been telling you, just make the shit yourself. If you don't want to watch the video, then read this tek.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613#11585613

Pf tek is so simple a chimp could do it, pretty cheap to get started, you don't need the perlite of SGFC at the start anyways giving you a few weeks to save up for those items. If you were willing to flush your money down the proverbial toilet for a kit, surely you can cough up a similar amount of cash to do it right, and get decent results.

Do a search on kits while your at it. They suck. There is even a thread about how they suck. Its right here. Do some reading, do it yourself, get good results, and after its all done, you still have the perlite, jars, SGFC, and just need to get more verm, brf, and syringe (assuming you used those items up, should be able to do lots with a little). Won't cost you much to do it the next time.


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19223928 - 12/03/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thats overpriced.. just make some jars.. i f i couldnt order bags and wanted to get started id make jars.. fruit.a few as cakes and case the rest.. as long as you follow frankhorrigans casing tek you cant lose.. im sure you have nurseries in the uk for buying jiffy mix, verm, and the grocery store will jave brf, or buy whole brown rice and grind it yourself..


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19228934 - 12/04/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok I'm guna get started soon do u think this tank is ok to use ??



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    #19229071 - 12/04/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So I was thinking of yo using that tank I also have a air pump how much perlite shood I use I'm going to make my cakes very soon has any one got any idea on what strain I shood get was thinking golden teachers or Mexican cubes


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19229103 - 12/04/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Ok I'm guna get started soon do u think this tank is ok to use ??





No, use plastic so you can drill holes in it.

I mean I am sure it will work to some degree, but it will be by no means an optimal setup.

Perlite in the bottom of a tub without holes is pointless.

Build a proper SGFC and forget about air pumps, humidifiers, hygrometers, etc.....just a tub with proper holes and 4-5" of perlite.

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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: PussyFart]
    #19229171 - 12/04/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok cheers for the info

These ok and wats the best size to go for ??





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    #19229207 - 12/04/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Whatever size fits your needs.. jist make sure theres enough room forbthe cakes to fruit..


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    #19229210 - 12/04/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Drill 1/4" holes in a grid pattern on all sides.. including the bottom and the lid..


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19229224 - 12/04/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the bigger the better.....60-70 liters will be good for up to like 12-16 cakes.........

It should be at least 12 inches high IMO.


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19229225 - 12/04/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

for a sgfc? i would look for 50 Liter or bigger..remember your going to negate about 4" for the perlite


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Josh.0]
    #19248384 - 12/09/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You could even suran wrap a laundry basket if you wanna be super cheap


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: NiNJa420]
    #19381463 - 01/07/14 09:21 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

We'll got a 32 Litre one maybe it's a little small but worth a go what do I need to do to it 




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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
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We'll got a 32 Litre one maybe it's a little small but worth a go what do I need to do to it 








the height be a problem with this one..


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Aero]
    #19381498 - 01/07/14 09:31 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

the grow kits are working
u just need to put that into an SGFC and thats all
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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Aero]
    #19381503 - 01/07/14 09:31 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

What no way that I can use it only tub I can find it's about 10 inch tall what if I make smaller cakes


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19381514 - 01/07/14 09:33 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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What no way that I can use it only tub I can find it's about 10 inch tall what if I make smaller cakes




doesnt hold humidity like a taller tub, go to a pound shop, for 3quid u get a decent one


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Aero]
    #19381534 - 01/07/14 09:39 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

This is so annoying haha I've been to evry shop in my town they don't have anything all there tubs are non see through pisses me off that evry thing that I need I can never find and the stuff that I do is not good enough just might give up :frown:


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    #19381550 - 01/07/14 09:44 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

dont u have these corner shops with cheap plastic stuff?
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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19381581 - 01/07/14 09:53 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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We'll got a 32 Litre one maybe it's a little small but worth a go what do I need to do to it 








Real simple solution (maby).

Get 2 identical tubs that have the proper length and width, and put one on top of the other.  Use the search function for "dub tub"....Make that design into a proper shotgun fruiting chamber.  BUT If you can get a taller single tub, it would certainly be better.  The problem with smaller SGFC is going to be head room.  Small tubs generally are not tall.

I found these have great head space in a small package.  I bet you could squeeze 4 cakes into it.
http://www.amazon.com/Sterilite-Show-Offs-Storage-Container/dp/B008J3Z532

I use these around the "house" for storing things like empty and clean mason jars, and they will fit a total of 6 (3x2)

I am not trying to plug amazon, just that they had the first site with good specs on the measurements.


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19381615 - 01/07/14 10:04 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Right so I can't use two tubs cuz as I said I only have the one and sorry but I'm not paying $60 for a pack of tubs from us I think I'll just stick to picking cuz everything seems to be so complicated I've seen vids of people using smaller tubs than this one I'm not trying to be a pro mycologist I just want to grow some shrooms ffs and it seems like I can't get anything good enough


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19381687 - 01/07/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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Right so I can't use two tubs cuz as I said I only have the one and sorry but I'm not paying $60 for a pack of tubs from us I think I'll just stick to picking cuz everything seems to be so complicated I've seen vids of people using smaller tubs than this one I'm not trying to be a pro mycologist I just want to grow some shrooms ffs and it seems like I can't get anything good enough



LOL you wont need a pack of 6, only one...and besides the link I provided is sold out of the 6 pack.  I was providing it as an example showing the length, width and height of a container that is small but probally your best bet for a small-ish SGFC.  Ill be totally honest, I have been to a number of different department stores that ranged in size from small to "Super", and they are sold at everyone of them for around $7 US dollars.

You can get a kit and I doubt you will have anything happen like what they are showing.  Kits are designed to take your money and provide you with a product that will give you a few mushrooms...Enough that you cannot complain for your money back.  Use the search function and look for success stories using kits.  Almost all involve people throwing them out and starting over the correct way. 

But don't take my word for it.  Sounds like you made a plan before you even came and asked for an opinion.


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19381704 - 01/07/14 10:28 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

I be leave everyone about the kits I don't live in us there isn't a department store around evry corner it's a lot different in uk and so what you are telling me that it's impossible for me to use that tub if that is the case then I give up


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19381835 - 01/07/14 10:57 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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it's a lot different in uk



Just trying to help you make the best of your educational experience.  From the way you word the last post:

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I'm not trying to be a pro mycologist I just want to grow some shrooms ffs and it seems like I can't get anything good enough




I doubt that you will have luck with out an understanding of the basic process, and kits take away any knowledge gained and you will suffer as will your grow.  Feel free to do whatever you want, but you ask for advice and are being given the best advice to Do it yourself.  You really will be wasting more by doing a kit, but do whatever you think is best for you, even if all of us "pro mycologist" will keep using our own plastic tubs. 

Here is a good example of a kit in action:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19378167/gonew/1#UNREAD
It is a very recent thread from a fellow in the UK.  Mold right out the gate.


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    #19381942 - 01/07/14 11:24 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Don't forget you can order almost everything you need just via Amazon... let alone the ebay link posted above. You are asking for advice on the internet, now use said internet to procure everything you need and stop making excuses lol.

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    #19383315 - 01/07/14 03:58 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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yes every internet promise is true.





It's not a scam and they do do as advertised as they are selling one hundred percent mycelium! I wouldn't even call them kits! All one has to do is dunk them and then shove them in a bag!

There are the very obviously crappy do it yourself kits that you can buy online, and then there are hundred percent colonized and hundred percent illegal blocks of mycelium that you can order from Amsterdam and such places!

Overpriced maybe but people are paying to avoid doing all the work themselves! It's kind of like going through the trouble of preparing your own Chinese food and then ridiculing people as morons because they themselves want to buy a takeaway!

Sure you'd be stupid to buy one cause they are illegal but unlike the do it yourself kits, a block of full colonized substrate has a very high chance of success! Don't get how people can have a problem with them!


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: wolf8312]
    #19383352 - 01/07/14 04:05 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

people have  problem with them cause we see them everyday suffering and doing shitty, the company doesn't give a fuck or have a 1-800 number to phone and help you because they have your money already, the instructions are horrible the set up is horrible the price is horrible  and everytime we see them it's not a "LOOK AT HOW AWESOME THIS IS" it's "WTF IS GOING WRONG"
If you have the money go for it but at least build a proper chamber and give them proper conditions and at least you can get some prints to save yourself money down the road


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    #19383453 - 01/07/14 04:17 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Yeah your right about them needing a shotgun though I have seen people have pretty good results! I don't nor wouldn't use them myself but I can understand the attraction of it if you haven't got the time or resources to start a real grow yourself!


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people have  problem with them cause we see them everyday suffering and doing shitty, the company doesn't give a fuck or have a 1-800 number to phone and help you because they have your money already, the instructions are horrible the set up is horrible the price is horrible  and everytime we see them it's not a "LOOK AT HOW AWESOME THIS IS" it's "WTF IS GOING WRONG"
If you have the money go for it but at least build a proper chamber and give them proper conditions and at least you can get some prints to save yourself money down the road




I suspect being in an industry where USUALLY by following the instructions you commit an illegal act and thus void any responsibility held by the vendor lends SOME purveyors to see profit before people... these spores are for MICROSCOPY only...the rest of the stuff in the kit is for growing shiitakes....really. :rolleyes:

Oh what's that you are having trouble with your grow kit? I'm sorry that's illegal and I'm going to have to not give a fuck. Have a nice day, thanks for the $100.  :thebird:


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: urthtown]
    #19392782 - 01/09/14 09:22 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

So if there illegal to buy how do people receive these kits I've seen many vids like people in uk and us that have ordered them and they have come ?? That just mind fucks me any way I'm going to make my own sgfc and just do it myself even thowe I know I'm going to fail


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19392881 - 01/09/14 09:53 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Wow, assuming your going to fail is a horrible mind set!...to be honest I think your making the process a lot more difficult then it really is! Im sorry your having trouble, be patient.  Dont jump ahead of your self!  You should really gain a little knowledge on how to grow, before you grow!


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: tripmob]
    #19393813 - 01/09/14 01:55 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I think I'm going to do it all myself just wood be nice to get a list of what I need but not a PC I've herd you can just use a pot with boiling water


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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: Southcoastshrooms]
    #19393842 - 01/09/14 02:03 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I think I'm going to do it all myself just wood be nice to get a list of what I need but not a PC I've herd you can just use a pot with boiling water




my success rate skyrocketed when i bought a PC, :twocents:

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Re: Hawaiian cubensis 100% mycelium [Re: twistedty]
    #19393927 - 01/09/14 02:25 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Ok how much perlite will I need for a 35 ltr tub and dose the perlite need to be sterilised to I'm on about for the Fc


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