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Icelander
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
#19182908 - 11/24/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did I say you were lying? Did I ask you to speak for Phred? I really don't know what you're going on about.
I am not lying though.
You must realize how many times that gets said around here.
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander]
#19184050 - 11/24/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Never counted the number of times. No lie.
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Icelander
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
#19184401 - 11/24/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
#19185443 - 11/25/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cervantes is the new best mod. What was that other guy that was really good his name was like 5 or 6 letters he stepped down this year. maybe started with a z.
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: teamkiller]
#19185609 - 11/25/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zorro? Zena the Warrior Princess? Zippy the Pinhead?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
#19185653 - 11/25/13 07:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cervantes said: Figure out how to look at the Ban o Matic.
I'm fairly certain that regular users do not have the ability you speak of. The ban-o-matic only allows us schmos to see our own ban points... no?
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19185667 - 11/25/13 07:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're correct. Up until a couple of months ago, we could use the mod monitor to see what mods are doing, but they made that a mod only function.
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
#19185673 - 11/25/13 07:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was unaware of the "mod monitor".
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19185677 - 11/25/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The script was "modmon.php" or something like that. You could enter a moderator's name and it would show all of the actions he/she has taken.
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
#19185678 - 11/25/13 07:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm sorry I missed it. Sounds informative, which likely explains its demise.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19185688 - 11/25/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
#19185702 - 11/25/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Too bad it went away.
However, I can see why the admins of this site might not wish to provide graphic evidence on just what incompetent tools some of the mods are.
Just like having an adminmon would likely point out what a tool at least one admin is.
Either one would likely cause great embarrassment to the remainder of the mods and admins, many of which seem to do a fine job. Can't have those bad apples attracting attention.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: luvdemshrooms] 2
#19185703 - 11/25/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Over time, it appears that the administration of this site has less and less transparency.
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Icelander
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
#19185727 - 11/25/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's how empires always seem to go during the decline phase.
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander] 4
#19185763 - 11/25/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah. I was, however, somewhat pleasantly surprised recently. Tymoteuz3 issued me another one of his biased, retaliatory warnings, and Ythan overturned it without much hesitation.
I think much of the new tyranny here is from a lack of supervision and not necessarily reflective of the administration's policies or desires. I suspect (or at least I want to believe) that the core administration still has the same values/goals that they always have, but they lack the time/concern to make sure that the underlings are acting in accordance with those values/goals.
I figure that the admins get a lot of pissing and moaning from a lot of people until it becomes impossible for them to have anything resembling an objective view of the site. It's much easier for them to just delegate the authority and hope for the best. Piss poor mods like tymoteusz3 run amok until enough people complain about them. At the same time, for every user that is the victim of his bias, there is at least one user that is using that bias for his/her own purposes...so for every complaint, there is an opposing praise. It's hard for the admins to sort it out without a lot of labor, so they let it slide for awhile and hope the problem sorts itself out.
In addition, I think Andy has really hurt the site's credibility with the rank and file users. Before andy, I don't ever remember anyone accusing admins of reading people's pms or ninja editing negative posts about the admin. That kind of shit leaves the perception (accurate or not) that the admins, in general, think of this site as their personal playground, and the users as the toys with which to play.
I really love this site, and have for many years, but the last year or so has really been a bummer. It's kinda like watching the slow, steady wasting away of an uncle with cancer. I try to see it like it used to be, but it gets harder each day to believe that it's the same site at all.
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil] 1
#19186050 - 11/25/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I suspect (or at least I want to believe) that the core administration still has the same values/goals that they always have, but they lack the time/concern to make sure that the underlings are acting in accordance with those values/goals.
Maybe they do or maybe their truest goals are just being honestly reflected now. While it's nice to think that humans believe in their stated goals it's usually the unstated and maybe unconscious ones that in the end take precedence.
Anyway things run their course and it's all to be expected. I really like this place myself but actually I think it's better than it was a few years ago. Or maybe I'm not expecting much more than what is presented rather than stated goals anymore. However I do think this place is often poorly moderated. But I've never had anything but positive experiences with tymoteusz3 and have found him to be a decent moderator. Just to present another side.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (11/25/13 10:29 AM)
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
#19186428 - 11/25/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Yeah. I was, however, somewhat pleasantly surprised recently. Tymoteuz3 issued me another one of his biased, retaliatory warnings, and Ythan overturned it without much hesitation.
How Timmeh is still a mod is a mystery indeed. I know why Andy is still an admin
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
#19187750 - 11/25/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been here a decade and Phred is why I've never posted in political discussion. I've been lurking without posting for years. Phred's gotta take it easy. You can blatantly see it.
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: zappaisgod]
#19187765 - 11/25/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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Enlil said: Yeah. I was, however, somewhat pleasantly surprised recently. Tymoteuz3 issued me another one of his biased, retaliatory warnings, and Ythan overturned it without much hesitation.
How Timmeh is still a mod is a mystery indeed. I know why Andy is still an admin
Tymo just needs to become a better mod, give him time. He's an OK guy. Coddling users has gotta stop.*
Andy better be doing things that the website needs, I think Ythan said he was getting tired of a lot of the coding even tho he still does thangs.
The three of you all need to lighten up a bit. Get out on the job with some of your guys before big winter hits or something.
*If people report 10 ratings it should default them as an opt-out. (While everyone's reading this thread anyway).
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Adden]
#19187774 - 11/25/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dystopia said: I've been here a decade and Phred is why I've never posted in political discussion. I've been lurking without posting for years. Phred's gotta take it easy. You can blatantly see it.
See what exactly?
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