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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19197025 - 11/27/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Then do it.  All it takes is money and some time.  If you don't have a clean record, tack on a couple of years, but it's doable.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
    #19197078 - 11/27/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Drug possession but never intent to sell. Got time. The deciding factor is student loans which scare the shit out of me.

To stay on topic, my gf played with my emotions last night. Said to go grab the baby oil for buttsex and when I get back bitch says "hahaha fag you thought I was serious?!?"

Is it okay if I hit her for that?


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19197086 - 11/27/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Drug possession but never intent to sell. Got time. The deciding factor is student loans which scare the shit out of me.




I believe any drug violation make you automatically ineligible for any federal student financial aid. That doesn't mean you can't obtain the loan through other ways (outside of the school). There is a whole appeals process you have to go through before you can get back on student aid again.

Nah nevermind, I just jogged my memory, you are ineligible if you received a drug violation while you were on financial aid at the same time.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19197117 - 11/27/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You just made my stomach sink the unsink. Fuck. Never been on financial aid. Was going to apply to get my pre's done before big boy school. Starting to get that realization of everyone else just lapping me by when I decided fuck school a couple years ago


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19197139 - 11/27/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Even if you were ineligible because of the conviction, it isn't permanent.  I'm pretty sure all you have to do is complete a qualified drug rehab program and pass a few drug tests.

If you're thinking of becoming a lawyer, you should do that anyway....as early as possible.  That way, when you apply for licensing, on paper you look like you left drugs behind you many years ago instead of last week.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19197146 - 11/27/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You just made my stomach sink the unsink. Fuck. Never been on financial aid. Was going to apply to get my pre's done before big boy school. Starting to get that realization of everyone else just lapping me by when I decided fuck school a couple years ago




How old are you? I thought you were only like 25?

If you're closer to 30, I personally wouldn't do the law school thing if I was in your shoes. It would take way too much time of living in poverty (working part time plus living as a student) especially if you are starting as a freshman. Since you would likely be working at the same time to support yourself, what should have taken 6-7 years will probably take closer to 8 or 9 or even 10. I can't imagine being past 40 years old before my life even starts to take off. And then having like 3 decades of student loans to complete after that, since law school isn't cheap.

If you're 25, you're fine, you can do it. Especially if you have parental support still. But if I was 30 years old and in your shoes, I would do a different route my personal self. Doesn't mean you should though. You should do what's right for you.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19197158 - 11/27/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It depends... I would treat all the same, but were I to meet the love of my life one day, or night for that matter... she could torture and kill me if shed like...


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Anonymous]
    #19197162 - 11/27/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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We were talking about women's CHOICE in CHOOSING to have an abortion or not, since that should arguably determine fetal murder or not. In the case of women's lives being in jeopardy, they don't particularly have a choice, even if they really want a baby.  You are arguing a point that is not conducive to this thread because much like an autistic person, are taking my words literally.



If the mother's choice determines if there is a murder or not then you are conceding that a fetus can be murdered. It is logical to them conclude abortion is murder. The fetal murder laws were all written by anti-abortion legislators trying to get a precedent that killing a baby before its born is murder rather than abortion. If you support abortion rights like I do you have to keep a firm line on this, that a fetus can not be murdered because its not a person.




No. No. No. The whole argument of "when life begins" is simply a red herring that is meant to distract us from the real issue. The entire argument surrounding "when life begins" was created by Baptist pro-conservatives and anti-abortionists.

The REAL issue surrounding abortion involves choice to do with one's body. If I am hosting a living organism inside of me, and I don't wish to host that organism anymore regardless of how many months along I am, I have the choice to remove it from my body.

Let's say that baby is born, but needs blood transfusions all the time. Well you cannot force somebody to donate their organs or their blood to save a baby from dying, even if it is their own baby. That is why it is really all about choice, and arguing "when life begins" is nonsensical and only bats for the conservative's viewpoint.

This is why if the mother was by all means intending to have the baby, it should be classified as murder. If she was not, and was intending to have an abortion, it shouldn't.

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The whole abortion discussion isn't "conducive to this thread."  What does abortion have to do with hitting a woman?




It's because we got on a topic about inevitably "murdering" fetuses due to beating a woman.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19197175 - 11/27/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Everything is living... Everything is dead... Everything has soul... Everything is relative...

I think a fetus is alive... but I would rather kill my child than give it a life of only torture...


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19197193 - 11/27/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You're pretty much correct, but the abortion argument also has to consider the rights of the unborn.  At some point, that fetus gets rights, and when it has them, there has to be a balancing between your right to control your body and the fetus' right to not have its life taken without due process.

The line that has been drawn in the sand by the monstrosity called "roe v. wade" is the point of viability...meaning when the fetus can survive on its own (whatever the fuck that means)

Fetal murder is not based on viability, though, because, in theory, the fetus is still a "human" under murder laws despite not having any rights attached yet.  It's, of course, a legal fiction designed to find a way to punish people for making a woman lose a pregnancy.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
    #19197204 - 11/27/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Only 22, like I said, I've got plenty of time.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19197212 - 11/27/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Life's not a race anyway...fuck what everyone else is doing.  I took up law as a second career after working in the entertainment industry for over a decade.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19197214 - 11/27/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Back to my second to last post, I should also add Mescalean, that being a lawyer is nothing like what is on the CSI trials. A lot of it is paperwork and behind-the-scenes negotiations and meeting the judge and filing appeals and things of that nature. It really depends on your specialty though. I guess if you were an attorney for those juicy murder trials all the time, you would get to argue with people like, sometimes.

You've gotta work 90 hours a week too. I decided law school wasn't for me because I wasn't willing to give up 80-90 hours of my week just working.

And yea, you're only 22, so you're fine. You should be finished by the time you're 30, that's within the normal time frame actually. I personally didn't even start college until I was your age.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
    #19197219 - 11/27/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Rights? Nobody has rights! People do not even get to eat what grows in nature... they arent allowed to think. They arent allowed to do anything that displeases the people in power... and people arent allowed to know they are being used like slaves...


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Anonymous]
    #19197222 - 11/27/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cool rant, bro.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
    #19197247 - 11/27/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You're pretty much correct, but the abortion argument also has to consider the rights of the unborn.  At some point, that fetus gets rights, and when it has them, there has to be a balancing between your right to control your body and the fetus' right to not have its life taken without due process.

The line that has been drawn in the sand by the monstrosity called "roe v. wade" is the point of viability...meaning when the fetus can survive on its own (whatever the fuck that means)

Fetal murder is not based on viability, though, because, in theory, the fetus is still a "human" under murder laws despite not having any rights attached yet.  It's, of course, a legal fiction designed to find a way to punish people for making a woman lose a pregnancy.




This whole abortion fiasco could all be fixed very easily if we had the technology to create artificial wombs to host fetuses to gestation. That way the mother would be able to walk away baby-free at any time of pregnancy, and that fetus could grow to full gestation and be "born" like it was intended to be. It's a win for both sides.

Unfortunately we don't have that kind of technology right now, and even if we did, we wouldn't have the government funds to support it. The irony is that even if we did have that kind of technology, conservatives would also be the same ones lobbying so they wouldn't have to pay to support these babies. HMMM, interesting, so you don't want to support this life because you don't want to give away your money, yet a mother who can't afford to raise children shouldn't be allowed to have abortions?


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19197259 - 11/27/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm all for abortion...I say we should give a tax break for abortion to encourage more. 

I still think Roe v. Wade needs to get overturned.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19197342 - 11/27/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Whos to say we don't have that tech right now? Classified tech is 50+ years from what we have now.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19197386 - 11/27/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That sounds like a combination of wishful thinking and :tinfoil: nonsense.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19197416 - 11/27/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Whos to say we don't have that tech right now? Classified tech is 50+ years from what we have now.




We are actually on the verge of creating artificial wombs years from now. I remember there being a debate about it among famous second wave and third wave feminists like two years ago.

Check this out, this dates as far back as 1996: http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/29/magazine/the-artificial-womb-is-born.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm


http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2013/10/the-artificial-womb-is-born-and-the-world-of-the-matrix-begins-2647320.html

But to date, considering the capitalist market, it will likely be patented, which means that much like artificial insemination, it will only be available to women wealthy enough to afford an artificial womb. Women who will get artificial wombs likely won't be single mothers who want to give up their babies for adoption, but will be high-powered career women who don't want the stress of a pregnancy to complicate and interfere with their careers.

Even when the tech becomes available ordinary people won't be able to afford it, and certainly the government wouldn't be able to fund it as a way of preventing women from having abortions.


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