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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: barong] * 1
    #19188817 - 11/25/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's like when all the feminists got up in arms because Adrian (Ozymandias) hit back after Laurie (The Silk Spector) punched him at the end of Watchman.
I may be a feminazi, but I'm no fucking feminist.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Chowder963]
    #19189588 - 11/25/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Chowder963 said:
Even they wouldn't be a threat, if you're saying some chick can pose a threat to you duke or not you're pathetic. Only reason to hit a women is when she has a knife or some weapon or trying to kill you somehow.



it happens. some twisted fuck cut her husbands nuts off recently because he wanted a divorce. comin after my nuts? you'll get my knees and elbows makin it rain instead.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19189786 - 11/25/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I said unless they had a weapon.. There's a lot of pussies in this thread if you count the guys who are pussies and the girls who have them. Smells like fish in here.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Chowder963]
    #19190334 - 11/26/13 03:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What if the woman is far along pregnant? Should that give her immunity to attack men? Should she get body slammed if she's 8 months along?


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Anonymous]
    #19190932 - 11/26/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What if the woman is far along pregnant? Should that give her immunity to attack men? Should she get body slammed if she's 8 months along?




Sure if you wanna go to jail for possibly murder if you kill her unborn child.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #19190942 - 11/26/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
What if the woman is far along pregnant? Should that give her immunity to attack men? Should she get body slammed if she's 8 months along?




Sure if you wanna go to jail for possibly murder if you kill her unborn child.



Its a sick law that considers a piece of fetal matter to be a person that can be murdered. :sad:


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Anonymous]
    #19190965 - 11/26/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

when they wanna die.

the few that hit me, were all badly injured.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Anonymous] * 1
    #19191000 - 11/26/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think there's any difference in how you should respond to a man vs a woman regarding violence.  I can't imagine a situation where it would be justified to hit a man but not a woman if the circumstances were similar.  i.e. if the woman isn't really in danger of doing any damage and is just being bratty, hitting her wouldn't be in self defense, but the same is true of a man who wasn't strong or couldn't fight.

On the other hand, a woman who could fight and was using fists on your face could probably use a punch to the face just as much as a man could.

The lesson here is don't be a prick and don't make things physical.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: johnm214]
    #19191014 - 11/26/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

or girls , dont start fights, just finish em.........


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Anonymous]
    #19191109 - 11/26/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Its a sick law that considers a piece of fetal matter to be a person that can be murdered. :sad:




I think that law is perfectly fine as long as the woman had all purposes of intending to have the baby.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19191134 - 11/26/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Its a sick law that considers a piece of fetal matter to be a person that can be murdered. :sad:




I think that law is perfectly fine as long as the woman had all purposes of intending to have the baby.



Those "unborn person" laws undermine the ability of women to get abortions. I strongly support abortion reproductive rights.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Anonymous]
    #19191184 - 11/26/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Those "unborn person" laws undermine the ability of women to get abortions. I strongly support abortion reproductive rights.




So do I. But no states, to my knowledge, allow third trimester abortions anyways.

For women who are 8 months pregnant and then get it forcibly taken away, the feeling of loss and tragedy can be just as strong as them losing a child who had been born. If they were by all means intending to have the baby, then it should count as a homicide.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19191374 - 11/26/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Those "unborn person" laws undermine the ability of women to get abortions. I strongly support abortion reproductive rights.




So do I. But no states, to my knowledge, allow third trimester abortions anyways.

For women who are 8 months pregnant and then get it forcibly taken away, the feeling of loss and tragedy can be just as strong as them losing a child who had been born. If they were by all means intending to have the baby, then it should count as a homicide.



I'm not aware of any laws restricting 3rd trimester abortions. Some southern states may have passed something recently that I'm not aware of though. A lot of abortions need to be done in late pregnancy to prevent down syndrome and that sort of thing if it wasen't detected until late. I'm in favor of post birth termination of defective babies like they have in Holland now. Its the best thing for society.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #19191396 - 11/26/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So do I. But no states, to my knowledge, allow third trimester abortions anyways.




The only states that allow third trimester abortions are Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.  Also, Guam, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia...but those aren't states.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
    #19191495 - 11/26/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't believe AZ does third trimester abortions anymore. I thought they passed some law saying after 20 weeks its a no go


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #19191506 - 11/26/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They can pass whatever laws they want.  Any law that completely prohibits abortions in the third trimester is unconstitutional and invalid.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
    #19191767 - 11/26/13 12:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
So do I. But no states, to my knowledge, allow third trimester abortions anyways.




The only states that allow third trimester abortions are Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.  Also, Guam, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia...but those aren't states.




Pwned.

Equal rights equal fights. If some crazy bitch physically attacks me I know many ways to incapacitate without striking. I would never strike any woman considering my size. Picture a pitbull fighting a yorky. But if shes not gonna stop hitting me I will get ahold of an arm and their neck make them sleep and chillax for a bit. I just can't justify striking.

Glad to see there are a few sensible women on here who see shit realisticly. Size/ physical weakness should not dictate immunity. That would be like me hitting shaq and expecting that big dumb bitch not to knock me the fuck out.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
    #19191866 - 11/26/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
So do I. But no states, to my knowledge, allow third trimester abortions anyways.




The only states that allow third trimester abortions are Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.  Also, Guam, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia...but those aren't states.




No they don't. California performs abortions only until the 20-week mark. Simply because there is no FEDERAL law restricting 3rd trimester abortions doesn't mean each individual state carries its own mandate. The actuality is that most states do not perform 3rd trimester abortions, even if it the laws against it are unconstitutional, it doesn't change the fact that you will not be able to find a medical professional willing to perform it.


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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19191891 - 11/26/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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No they don't. California performs abortions only until the 20-week mark.


False.  Here is the California abortion law:

123468.  The performance of an abortion is unauthorized if either of
the following is true:
  (a) The person performing or assisting in performing the abortion
is not a health care provider authorized to perform or assist in
performing an abortion pursuant to Section 2253 of the Business and
Professions Code.
  (b) The abortion is performed on a viable fetus, and both of the
following are established:
  (1) In the good faith medical judgment of the physician, the fetus
was viable.
  (2) In the good faith medical judgment of the physician,
continuation of the pregnancy posed no risk to life or health of the
pregnant woman.


You'll notice that if the pregnancy poses a risk to life or health of the pregnant woman, a viable fetus can be aborted.



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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
    #19191940 - 11/26/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You'll notice that if the pregnancy poses a risk to life or health of the pregnant woman, a viable fetus can be aborted.






That's everywhere, abortions can be performed at any time if it's a health hazard to the pregnant woman.

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41 states prohibit some abortions after a certain point in pregnancy.  21 states impose prohibitions at fetal viability.
 3 states impose prohibitions in the third trimester.
 17 states impose prohibitions after a certain number of weeks; 9 of these states ban abortion at 20 weeks
post-fertilization or its equivalent of 22 weeks after the woman’s last menstrual period on the grounds that the fetus can feel pain at that point in gestation.
 The circumstances under which later abortions are permitted vary from state to state.
 26 states permit later abortions to preserve the life or health of the woman.
 11 states unconstitutionally ban later abortions, except those performed to save the life or physical
health of the woman.
 4 states unconstitutionally limit later abortions to those performed to save the life of the woman.
 Some states require the involvement of a second physician when a later-term abortion is performed.
 12 states require that a second physician attend the procedure to treat a fetus if it is born alive in all or
some circumstances.
 9 states unconstitutionally require that a second physician certify that the abortion is medically
necessary in all or some circumstances.



http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/spibs/spib_PLTA.pdf


Some states such as Arkansas have it as early as 12 weeks of pregnancy. Only 9 states at the bottom do not impose any term restriction on abortions, which means only 18% of states allow abortions at any time: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/06/18/us/politics/abortion-restrictions.html?_r=0


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