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Mescalean
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
#19222244 - 12/03/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fucking thank you. Was waiting for you to chime in given your job.
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qman
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anne halonium said: it think you guys confuse ego and tiff fighting,( common) with combat fighting.( rare)
with ego/ tiff fighting, ya swap blows till someone gives.
i dont play that way. combat fighting is different. raise a fist to me , and i want you dead, with every strike. i dont care if the razor broke off in you.
the meanest people, usually win. dysocials , have a BIG advanatage. im more concerned with my broken nails, than i am with you choking on blood.
i know its " manly" to swap blows. in reality, real fights are decided in the first few seconds. most peeps arent trained for that dynamic. they think they are, but they arent.
ironically, your sexism plays against you. no jury is gonna convict me, because you struck me first, and now you have a perma disability. blonde hair, blue eyes, cute, and 3 lawyers. im walking, your wheeling in a wheel chair.
You're going to put a man in a wheel chair? I don't think so.
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: qman]
#19222418 - 12/03/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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^^LOL, it's possible, but she'd more than likely have to use a weapon. Which, I really struggle to see how you would be able to get out of that legally if the other person's armed. Even if they hit you first.
I don't understand what having blonde hair and blue eyes has to do with any of this.
Also, AFAIK assault cases typically aren't revolved through a jury.
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
#19222441 - 12/03/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Misdemeanor assault cases aren't, but in felony assault, the accused has a right to a jury.
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Mescalean
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil] 2
#19222450 - 12/03/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can see why 79 people have her ignored jesus christ lady.
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Mescalean]
#19222469 - 12/03/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mescalean said: I can see why 79 people have her ignored jesus christ lady.
She is not at all representative of what feminism stands for. I find her posts to be sexist, racist, and classist to say the least.
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
#19222474 - 12/03/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enlil said: Misdemeanor assault cases aren't, but in felony assault, the accused has a right to a jury.
So basically, domestic squabbles are almost never brought in front of a jury, since they are misdemeanor. What changes it from misdemeanor to felony? The severity of the assault? Whether you used a weapon or not?
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Mescalean
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
#19222509 - 12/03/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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Mescalean said: I can see why 79 people have her ignored jesus christ lady.
She is not at all representative of what feminism stands for. I find her posts to be sexist, racist, and classist to say the least.
Something else we can agree on besides pimples. Nah I know true feminism is about equality. Not some sexist man hating agenda. Kinda like how theres conservative and liberal view points in politics, then there are those from each party who take it to extremes.
Shes an extremist.
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
#19222514 - 12/03/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every state is a little different, but most states have "simple assault" which is a misdemeanor. Once you get to aggravated assault, it becomes a felony. Ag assault usually requires that a weapon is used or that someone is significantly injured. Simple assault could be a slap on the face.
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
#19222539 - 12/03/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Would anyone else agree with me that a womans best chance at surviving an assault. I'm talking rape and that kinda shit, would be to carry and be trained on how to properly use a firearm or mace? Rather than this bruce lee bullshit?
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Mescalean]
#19222573 - 12/03/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mescalean said: Something else we can agree on besides pimples. Nah I know true feminism is about equality. Not some sexist man hating agenda. Kinda like how theres conservative and liberal view points in politics, then there are those from each party who take it to extremes.
Shes an extremist.
She reminds me of my roommate and best friend back in college. She was a spoiled girl (only daughter, no siblings) belonging to a middle-class family in San Diego, and she was a cute blonde who drove a BMW 325 series. She constantly used her "feminine wiles" to get people to do things for her, and to get out of trouble, and other things. Especially around guys. I didn't complain, because she would score us some free shit at times thanks to her feminine wiles.
We were friends for like 2 years, but by the end of the second year she started doing drugs and began getting very jealous and hateful from the imbalances in her body (I always believed she was bipolar, even before the drugs).
Anyway, as this jealousy and hate grew, she also started becoming racist and classist. We had a third girl that was in our clique, this BEAUTIFUL black girl who looked like Kerry Washington's twin sister. She was easily the prettiest one out of all of us. I'm not a jealous or hateful person at all, so I don't mind admitting when somebody is better looking than me, smarter than me, more successful than me, or has a better body than me, or whatever.
But my best friend was so jealous of her, and would constantly say things like, "Well, people desire ME more because I'm the cute, prized blonde, and she's just a black negro child." Bear in mind I am not white myself.
Then she would act like she was better than other people because she was richer than them, carried some Dooney & Burke brand name of handbag, and drove a BMW. I actually came from a wealthier home than she did, but I would never brag about something that I have never achieved myself, something that was just given to me by sheer luck.
No, I stopped being friends with her later that year. She was just a privileged white girl, and I realized I had nothing in common with somebody who flaunts their privilege like that.
Anyway, anna's posts just reminded me of her and made me go, "Blech."
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
#19222612 - 12/03/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mescalean said: Would anyone else agree with me that a woman's best chance at surviving an assault. I'm talking rape and that kinda shit, would be to carry and be trained on how to properly use a firearm or mace? Rather than this bruce lee bullshit?
Yes, but unfortunately I live in a state where concealed carry is virtually impossible unless you're a law enforcement agent or a private detective. And even if you have the permit, if you are getting assaulted and you shoot the other person dead, you may still get time for it. In California, you have to feel like your life is in actual danger and there may be a chance you may die before you shoot somebody.
But actually, the most likely person to rape or assault you is not some stranger, but a boyfriend or friend or neighbor or somebody who already knows you. This whole concealed carry mentality perpetuates the idea that most rapes and assaults are committed by somebody who is a complete stranger, which is pretty far from the truth.
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Crystal G]
#19222638 - 12/03/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was not aware majority of it was people close to the victim huh. And yeah it's a biiiit different out here in AZ forgot you were from cali
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Mescalean] 1
#19222679 - 12/03/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The random rape in an alley is very uncommon. You're more likely to be struck by lightning.
I don't think that carrying a firearm is an answer at all, though. People who carry don't often get to use their weapon in defense of themselves, and it is often used against them. If carrying makes you feel safer, by all means, do so...but don't delude yourself into thinking you're actually safer in any meaningful way.
There is a surefire way to not get raped, and that is to always give consent. That way, it isn't rape...it's just really bad sex.
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil] 1
#19222702 - 12/03/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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When she fucks up my sandwich!
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
#19222815 - 12/03/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enlil said: I don't think that carrying a firearm is an answer at all, though. People who carry don't often get to use their weapon in defense of themselves, and it is often used against them. If carrying makes you feel safer, by all means, do so...but don't delude yourself into thinking you're actually safer in any meaningful way.
I also believe a firearm is not the best self-defense weapon for the following reasons: 1) Once somebody gets close enough to assault you, they are also close enough to wrestle the gun away from you. 2) Shooting somebody who is following you from far away, but has not yet attacked you, is a crime. 3) If you miss your target and hit a passerby or third party witness, you could possibly get charged. 4) If the assault against you isn't severe enough, you can get charged. Guns are not meant to be used in normal fist fights.
The main thing it's good for is warding potential aggressors away, if they know that you are carrying. Or by firing off a warning shot if they are following you from afar. But as far as practicality in a surprise assault, not really.
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There is a surefire way to not get raped, and that is to always give consent. That way, it isn't rape...it's just really bad sex.
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Enlil]
#19222911 - 12/03/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Never...
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: Gorlax]
#19222952 - 12/03/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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When she's literally begging for it while being fucked.
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anne halonium said: it think you guys confuse ego and tiff fighting,( common) with combat fighting.( rare)
with ego/ tiff fighting, ya swap blows till someone gives.
i dont play that way. combat fighting is different. raise a fist to me , and i want you dead, with every strike. i dont care if the razor broke off in you.
the meanest people, usually win. dysocials , have a BIG advanatage. im more concerned with my broken nails, than i am with you choking on blood.
This is spot on. Most street fights are won by the person who is willing to go all in. Psycho is a huge advantage.Quote:
i know its " manly" to swap blows. in reality, real fights are decided in the first few seconds. most peeps arent trained for that dynamic. they think they are, but they arent.
Yep. There is no place for politeness in a real fight
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Re: When should a man hit a woman? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19223275 - 12/03/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psycho does help alot. If your willing to bite someones ear off then youre one step ahead of your opponent. Most people freak when they see their own blood.
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