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Invisiblenofind_um
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possible gymnopilus, Verdict is in!!!
    #1916589 - 09/14/03 08:28 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Ok,,, I found a cluster of orange mushrooms today growing up out of the ground. They were growing from a grassy area, right in front of a dead tree stump, (the stump was pretty old). Found in southern new england.

I only took one specimen, although as you can see from the photo it was a sizable cluster, 8-10 in all.
-The cap was approx. 5 inches across
-Margin rolled under slightly, darkening rusty brown with age.
-lamellae removeable from pilleus,(takes work,, not easy),pilleus flesh is spongy, not bruising easily.
-Gills crowded attached, but not decurrent, "rules out paxillus involutus/atromentosus"
-Partial veil still attached
-stipe thick at top, tapering in center then bulbous at base.
-Stipe flesh thick, slightly spongy,(when you push, it bounces back).
-stipe flesh not bruising easily, when bruised takes on a brownish grey hue. also slightly stringy when pulled apart.
-Sore print orange.
-Smell, kinda sweet but still mushroomy.
-taste bitter, "now of course I only sampled a small bit and spit it out entirely.



Now I know alot of you will say Jack O lantern, (Omphalotus illudens/olivascens),, I've already ruled this out due to the gills not being decurrent, and my spore print being orange as opposed to white to cream yellow.

I've also ruled out the aforementioned paxillus species also due to the absence of decurrent gills, and my spore print being orange as opposed to yellow or brown.

If it can't be mistaken for either of the 2 mentioned lookalikes then what could it be????

If anyone cares to check my resources for ID were web based:

http://www.bluewillowpages.com/mushroomexpert/paxillus_atrotomentosus.html
http://www.bluewillowpages.com/mushroomexpert/omphalotus_illudens.html
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Paxillus_involutus.html

Now for the pictures, hope you can make em out.













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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: nofind_um]
    #1916758 - 09/14/03 09:38 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

They are Gymnopilus probably spectabilus.

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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: falcon]
    #1916792 - 09/14/03 09:54 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Looks like Paxillus involutus.

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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1916919 - 09/14/03 10:46 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

theshiftingwalls said:
Looks like Paxillus involutus.




No, it doesn't.

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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: nofind_um]
    #1917144 - 09/15/03 12:05 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Nice description. Tasting it is one of the important key features.

Those key out as Gymnopilus spectabilis. Based on your photos, those are still fairly young specimens. The gills should turn a rusty orange brown when they mature.

Incidentally, although this species is listed as active (containing psilocybin) in many references, Smith states that not all collections contain psilocybin.

Nice specimens, description, and photos.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1917460 - 09/15/03 04:55 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you all,,, that's good news.. Looks like my hard work has finally paid off....

I found them on my sunday dog walk... Just as I spotted them another couple was walking by on the opposite side of the road... I immediatly layed down in the grass and snapped a few photos.. Obviously they thought it odd... and inquired as to what I was doing...

Oh well off to collect the rest of them... bye No find Um.


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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: nofind_um]
    #1917674 - 09/15/03 08:44 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Taste like crap, don't they?


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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: buddhathehut]
    #1918324 - 09/15/03 01:47 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah,,, but up here in new england you can't be too picky when hunting in the wild... I guess,,, I'll let you know if I am able to stomach enough to feel the effects....

I've found numerous spots for panaeolus subbalteatus,,,, I keep checking them but to no avail.... It seems that the folks cleaning the stables keep throwing more and more dung and hay/shavings on top of the pile already rotting... I believe that prevents the mycelium from getting adequate water and heat... or something along those lines... Thus hindering the growth of the mycelium and ultimatly no pan subbs... Or maybe there just aren't enough spores.... to colonize... Oh well,, next time I'm bringing my rake to pull some off the top, and look for mycelial colonization.... Seems like this should be another thread....

I'm also looking for P. carulipes,,, I have many spots I check every few days,, "along river beds,, and areas of run off, not even a hint of any yet.. maybe the temps need to drop more... It's been humid as hell for 2 days. Things are popping up everywhere... More rain expected tonight,,, I hope.... Oh well,, I'll keep you posted.. I'm rambling and surely breaking the forum rules... Later..


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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: nofind_um]
    #1918336 - 09/15/03 01:50 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Neat Gymno's, probably G. spectabilis..

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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: nofind_um]
    #1918538 - 09/15/03 02:57 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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    #1918918 - 09/15/03 05:08 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

yea those are Gymnopilus. especially those fibers on the cap and their look and structure are to Gyms like peanut buter is to jelly.

i recently found some small (2 cm tall) Gymnopilus mushrooms growing on the plank of an old dock in my nieghborhood park about a week after they were submerged from the huge amounts of rain we had.

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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #1918973 - 09/15/03 05:24 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

here i thought peanutbutter and jelly where distinctly different from one another wich was why they went together so nicely...
:smile:


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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: canid]
    #1922398 - 09/16/03 05:25 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

shlanga shlanga

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