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Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag
    #19181919 - 11/24/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I normally NEVER buy games at release for $60, and the last time I did so was about 2+ years ago... until last night. Last night I bought AC4 for $60. So far, I'm questioning my judgment in doing so.


I only did the first 3 sequences so far so I can't fully judge the game, but I'm already upset with a few things. Firstly, the ship-to-ship combat feels way too easy, just like AC3, you can sink 2 ships with a single mouse click.

Secondly, the whole assassins thing isn't making much sense so far, as the protagonist doesn't seem to care.

Thirdly, his fighting skill seems unexplained. Altair was trained by assassins, Ezio probably had fencing lessons and got in a lot of fights as a kid, Connor learned how to hunt and fight... so far, the protagonist (whatever his name is?) doesn't seem to have much of a story. He's a more interesting character that Connor already, but his introduction feels kinda rushed and prefabricated with too much usage of cutscenes.

Fourthly, performance isn't very good. I have an AMD 7850 and it's kinda choppy/not smooth. I can't even figure out if I'm changing the settings right, I set them all to low and it looks and plays the same. Any advice?


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Re: Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag [Re: Synthe]
    #19182032 - 11/24/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I completely adore this game.

Ship to ship combat is easy, huh? Try going up against bigger ships, take on a few frigates or a man-o-war. I completely lost my shit trying to sink a legendary ship after about the 713249274729th attempt and ended up breaking one of my controllers in half. I shit you not.

The assassins thing will come together as the story progresses. I don't want to spoil it for you.

The fighting skills, yeah, I agree. All I gathered about that, is in one cut-scene, an assassin compliments him on his "remarkable skills" to which he replies "it comes natural".  :archiebunker:
But what are you gonna' do.

I can't help with the graphics/performance issues as I played it on PS3 and it looked and played okay. In fact, it looks better than any other game I've played on a PS3. It actually feels like a next gen game.

I was really disappointed when I finished this one, I didn't want it to end. I envy that you've only just started it. Make the most of it, man. Enjoy it, it's a damn fun game.


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Re: Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19182532 - 11/24/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

pirates and assassins just don't mix at all, I would be far more compelled to get it if the assassins creed moniker was dropped for a standalone pirate game.

but that'll probably never happen so I guess I'm out of luck.


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Re: Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #19183304 - 11/24/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well I've been playing it for the last 4 or so hours and it's gotten better, I managed to lower the settings and get it to run well at the expense of some graphics.

Edward is beginning to grow on me as well, although his personality seems to take longer to show itself than I remember previous AC protagonists taking, I think it's okay.

I just don't think the pirate theme fits into the AC series, it just doesn't fit the model very much. While ship-to-ship combat as a minigame was loads of fun in AC3, making it take up over 50% of AC4 is frustrating to say the least. I feel like the ocean is used as a filler to make you spend more time playing, and the limited ship unlocks are irking me as well. Then again, sailing as a filler is still better than horse riding was a filler in AC3.

It's getting progressively more enjoyable bit by bit though.


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Re: Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag [Re: Synthe]
    #19184928 - 11/24/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I question your judgment as well..

It's going to be half that price at multiple places on black Friday.


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Re: Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag [Re: LordSenate]
    #19186014 - 11/25/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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LordSenate said:
I question your judgment as well..

It's going to be half that price at multiple places on black Friday.



Pretty sure it's only going down to $50 or 3 for $120? Unfortunately I couldn't find it for under $60 for PC ANYWHERE. Believe me, I looked... :shrug:


I'm having fun so far though.


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Re: Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag [Re: Synthe]
    #19186064 - 11/25/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I just dl'ed it, enjoying it so far about 3 hours in.


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Re: Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag [Re: Pureless]
    #20872604 - 11/21/14 09:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

If you have ever played Assassins Creed, you probably have heard of "Assassins" and wondered if their was any Historical basis for the game. If you are looking for evidence of an Italian Assassin guild, or an American Assassin guild, you might be able to do it, but not deep deep in history. So you probably automatically assume Ninjas are the precursor to Assassins, and Assassins come from Asia. But they do not. Assassins come from "Hashashins" and they are from the Islamic Tradition.

Hashashins were made famous by a guy called "The Old Man of the Mountain", his real name was Rashid ad-Din Sinan.

The Leader of the Hashashins was Hassan-i Sabbah. He was basically an Islamic Missionary, and his people were being conquered. So he started a "Secret Society" where people joined his Mission in an underground manner, then took a fortress on a mountain by slowly working their way into the guard positions. They all got hired as guards and snuck inside and stuff, then they just pulled out their weapons and told everyone that the fortress was theirs now.

From the fortress on the mountain, they launched attacks and fought of sieges from the enemy army.

The Assassins/Hashashins grew, and eventually they became an enemy to the Knights Templar. When you hear of the Christians and Muslims "fighting over the Holy Land", it was the Assassins Vs The Knights Templar.

The Hashashins were not only known for the one mountain fort and their ability to defend it, but they were also considered formidable by both Christian and Muslim armies. They were known for getting hired or bought as slaves, so that they could get in to the Palaces and camps of other factions leaders, then they would either gather information from that group, or they would continue to plant members in the group until there were more of them than there were actual guards or slaves. Just like the American/French Revolutionaries and the Freed Roman slaves, the Hashashins were known for wearing Santa hats/Phrygian Caps.


You may be wondering "If the Hashashins and the American Revolutionaries and Roman slaves were all wearing Santa hats/Phrygian Caps/Liberty Caps, was there a connection or are they just random groups that both thought the Santa hat was cool? There is a connection. America was not founded by Assassins, but when America was founded, the people living there were Christian, and the other Christian nations wanted to kill them. They were helped by the Santa hat tradition.

If I say the word "Pirate" you automatically picture a few things. An Eye patch, a Peg Leg, a Parrot, and a Curved Sword. The reason you imagine the Curved sword, is because a large portion of what we now call "Pirates" were Barbary Pirates. If you look up "Barbary Pirates" you will find paintings and stuff of people wearing Santa hats.

Then if you look up "Ottoman Soldier" you will find paintings of more people with these hats. The Ottoman Empire was the empire that protected America from the other Christians. When the American flag was first made, it was used on boats, and anyone who saw one would attack that ship. Once the Ottoman empire signed the "Treaty of Peace and Friendship" with America, it officially made America a nation. Because a nation just means that you are an entity that has a treaty with various other nations. That is the only thing that makes a nation a recognized nation. The Ottoman empire is not talked about much, but the British Empire was not such a big problem once America had protection at sea.

If you looked up "Ottoman Soldier" and "Barbary Pirate" and "Hashashin" you probably saw a people that looked pretty Muslim, and think I am talking about Muslim ideology. This is NOT Muslim ideology. It goes further back than Christianity and Islam, you can find more about the Santa hat by looking up "Mithra" and "Phrygia".

But if you want to see how America, France and Santa hat ideology all tie together, all you have to do is look up "Zouave". These are French Soldiers that fought in the Civil war, and if you didn't know they were French, you would think they were from the Middle East.


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