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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: un-known-ome]
    #19209022 - 11/30/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry there were 2 Bad Mice before and they were muuuchhhhhh better.

Well it's not exactly hard to be better then pressing play but hey...


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: Beanhead]
    #19209194 - 11/30/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Sorry there were 2 Bad Mice before and they were muuuchhhhhh better.

Well it's not exactly hard to be better then pressing play but hey...




I don't understand this comment. Yeah during a live set, he and almost everyone else in the industry presses play. That's how you start the playback of a song. In the studio he doesn't just press play and then voila that makes a track. If you have a sequencer, it's just complete silence unless you put the sounds in. So yeah he makes the songs, and then when he performs, he presses play to play them back to the audience. I don't see how that's a knock on him, honestly. And again, I don't think he's an amazing live performer. This is strictly about the music.

And for the record, this is really the style of music that really saw him rise to fame, because it's changed a bit over the years:


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: un-known-ome]
    #19209218 - 11/30/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Over here they have several sequencers, synthesizers & DAWS hooked up to eachother and they produce the sounds live.

Liveset... Press play? What is this blasphemy?

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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: Beanhead]
    #19209285 - 11/30/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Over here they have several sequencers, synthesizers & DAWS hooked up to eachother and they produce the sounds live.

Liveset... Press play? What is this blasphemy?

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Look up his history :awesomenod:




Right, people certainly do that. And that is a possibility, but Deadmau5 couldn't feasibly perform his songs in real time. It would be too difficult. And even if you decided to trigger everything on stage and make the arrangement with sequencers and synths, you can't just whip up that kind of music. It's very delicately arranged and everything single sample or sound is deliberately placed in the mix. You couldn't compose Strobe, a ten minute song, live.


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: un-known-ome]
    #19210770 - 12/01/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hmmm, I disagree. There's a lot of artists in the industry that do more than just push play. Sure, a lot of them do... but...
I mean, fucking look at pretty lights.. He has a full band up there with him - it's so tight.
And here's someone playing Strobe live.


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: MrHill]
    #19211896 - 12/01/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Hmmm, I disagree. There's a lot of artists in the industry that do more than just push play. Sure, a lot of them do... but...
I mean, fucking look at pretty lights.. He has a full band up there with him - it's so tight.
And here's someone playing Strobe live.





Right but most of that is prerecorded. He recorded the samples earlier, and he already had all of the note sequences prepared in advanced. He didn't really play it live. And that's the nature of electronic music.  And Deadmau5 made that song on his computer, I believe, without any outboard gear. My point is that it would make no sense for him to sequence that song in real time, and it wouldn't make any difference. It's just more work to do it the way this kid is doing it. So again, I find it difficult to criticize someone for not making his life harder than it needs to be. And Deadmau5 is just one guy, who does everything, so you can't compare him to a band. If he were in a band, than yes he could do his songs live. So again, that's difficult to criticize.


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: un-known-ome]
    #19212099 - 12/01/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

"Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time?"






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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: Big Worm]
    #19212360 - 12/01/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm just saying, the difference between deadmau5, and other musicians, is not just pushing play vs. playing a track live.
The reason concerts shows are fun, is because the artist preforms it for you.
People don't want to hear the same thing they've heard on their iPod for the past two years.
They want soul.
They want improvisation.
They want connection.
They want to be a part of something bigger than a 320 kbps mp3 file.
It's something that Deadmau5, and a lot of other producers can't seem to provide.

And Pretty Lights is just one guy, but he hired two brass players, a drummer, a keyboardist, and an extra DJ to make his shows phenomenal.
He finds a way to really connect with his fans.
Something that I don't think Deadmau5 has the creative intellect to do.


But really, who cares?
we're all entitled to our own opinion.
I don't get why people get so butthurt over music choices anyways.
It's like "Oh... You don't like coffee? How? Go fuck yourself, it's the best thing ever". Haha, it just doesn't make any sense.
Music is 100% opinion based, so I think it's really hard to give anyone producer the title of "the greatest electronic producer ever"

But either way, Deadmau5 doesn't reach it in his composition, production level, attitude, etc.
It's like saying Usher is the best singer ever or something. Deadmau5 is basically pop.


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: innerspeaker1967]
    #19212472 - 12/01/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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its boards of canada you all know that




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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: MrHill]
    #19212532 - 12/01/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm just saying, the difference between deadmau5, and other musicians, is not just pushing play vs. playing a track live.
The reason concerts shows are fun, is because the artist preforms it for you.
People don't want to hear the same thing they've heard on their iPod for the past two years.
They want soul.
They want improvisation.
They want connection.
They want to be a part of something bigger than a 320 kbps mp3 file.
It's something that Deadmau5, and a lot of other producers can't seem to provide.

And Pretty Lights is just one guy, but he hired two brass players, a drummer, a keyboardist, and an extra DJ to make his shows phenomenal.
He finds a way to really connect with his fans.
Something that I don't think Deadmau5 has the creative intellect to do.


But really, who cares?
we're all entitled to our own opinion.
I don't get why people get so butthurt over music choices anyways.
It's like "Oh... You don't like coffee? How? Go fuck yourself, it's the best thing ever". Haha, it just doesn't make any sense.
Music is 100% opinion based, so I think it's really hard to give anyone producer the title of "the greatest electronic producer ever"

But either way, Deadmau5 doesn't reach it in his composition, production level, attitude, etc.
It's like saying Usher is the best singer ever or something. Deadmau5 is basically pop.




This is again the same stuff that gets said about Deadmau5 and his music, which is strictly wrong. Whether or not you like his music is an opinion, but whether or not he's a great producer is not really an opinion. It's substantiated fact. I just don't see how people dismiss his music, I really don't. That doesn't compute. It's like you don't even know who I'm talking about and are just making sweeping generalizations. He wanted to get famous, and he wanted be pretty mainstream, and that's what he did. If that bothers you, that's one thing, but that was a personal decision that he made for his own reasons. Pretty Lights is more than acceptable in my book, but if that's your measuring stick for quality or whatever, then Deadmau5 just isn't doing the same thing so that's not really fair, or sensible. He's one guy, doing everything, and that's how he wants it. This wasn't about his live shows, which aren't the best anyway, I agree. He makes a different brand of music from what you consider to be good, apparently, but it's still good, I can assure you. He makes some variation of progressive house, which is by design, less noisy and less cluttered than some other varieties of electronic music. It's also minimalistic, in many ways. If you're listening to it and you want it be something other than what it is, then you'll find yourself unable to get into it or appreciate it on any level. Also, it's not thinking man's music whatsoever, and it's not meant to be. It has a very heavy emphasis on evoking certain emotions, which is again what he's trying to do with it. And he accomplishes that.


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: Robo]
    #19212588 - 12/01/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

"Drop you like a needle on the record, scratch my itch
Watch you walk in circles hit the beat
Drop you like a needle on the record, flip my switch
Go around in circles, hit the beat"
Sofi needs a latter, fucking brilliant song along with all the rest of deadmau5 music.


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: Ryestals]
    #19215018 - 12/01/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Holy fuckin' hell, this thread is hilarious.

"Do you think this shitty Producer/DJ is the greatest?"

"NNNOOO, this shitty Producer/DJ I listen to is way better!!" (link to worthless song)

"No way man, the shitty Producer/DJ I first posted is so much better!!" (link to another half-ass wannabe song)

"Dude no fucking way, brah...here is another shitty wannabe Producer/DJ that is so much better!!" (link to even yet another half-ass, boring, by-the-numbers song)


ETC ETC ETC

Here is how real Producers/DJs used to make EDM back in the day with actual electronic Analog gear, not this Laptop Computer Program bullshit these days. If you dont know who BT and Sasha are then please leave this thread right now...

2 Phat Cunts (BT & Sasha) - Let It Ride



Ok well just a few more P.S. here you go with some more realness...





Last but not least, I will quote a comment from this song by someone on YT which totally sums up how I feel about this amazing track..."OMG I am overwhelmed of memories from this song. I am so sad. I want to go back. At least one night back in time to feel again those careless hot summer night parties. OMG FUCKKK."



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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #19215030 - 12/01/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Although, with all that being said...I will give this Deadmau5 dude some props since he got to bang that totally fucking hot woman Kat Von D!! I just hope he hit that poonie right! I wish I was banging a woman on that level.

Jesus Christ...Deadmau5 fucking Kat Von D...Skrillex fucking Ellie Goulding...I need to get famous ASAP!!

:hehehe:


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #19215518 - 12/02/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Holy fuckin' hell, this thread is hilarious.

"Do you think this shitty Producer/DJ is the greatest?"

"NNNOOO, this shitty Producer/DJ I listen to is way better!!" (link to worthless song)

"No way man, the shitty Producer/DJ I first posted is so much better!!" (link to another half-ass wannabe song)

"Dude no fucking way, brah...here is another shitty wannabe Producer/DJ that is so much better!!" (link to even yet another half-ass, boring, by-the-numbers song)




And the trend continues with your contribution. Only the shit you posted probably has the most limited musical content of anything posted in this thread so far. Seriously just a bunch of generic dance floor tracks.

EDM is garbage. No producer who operates in this realm could ever lay claim to Greatest Producer status. I've even heard much more musical content from some of BT's material but the stuff you posted was just raver trash. But I'm sure he dates supermodels so he must be a great producer, right?:hypno:


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: un-known-ome]
    #19215924 - 12/02/13 05:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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un-known-ome said:
Quote:

Beanhead said:
Over here they have several sequencers, synthesizers & DAWS hooked up to eachother and they produce the sounds live.

Liveset... Press play? What is this blasphemy?

Dr.Walker
Look up his history :awesomenod:




Right, people certainly do that. And that is a possibility, but Deadmau5 couldn't feasibly perform his songs in real time. It would be too difficult. And even if you decided to trigger everything on stage and make the arrangement with sequencers and synths, you can't just whip up that kind of music. It's very delicately arranged and everything single sample or sound is deliberately placed in the mix. You couldn't compose Strobe, a ten minute song, live.




So they're able to bring a 2hour experience and his music is so complex he can't sequence ten minutes?

He is perhaps the new Mozart. O wait...

Don't put him up a pedestal, just enjoy his music:mushroom2:

Good vibes, partyhardy :rave:


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: Beanhead]
    #19217356 - 12/02/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Beanhead said:
Quote:

un-known-ome said:
Quote:

Beanhead said:
Over here they have several sequencers, synthesizers & DAWS hooked up to eachother and they produce the sounds live.

Liveset... Press play? What is this blasphemy?

Dr.Walker
Look up his history :awesomenod:




Right, people certainly do that. And that is a possibility, but Deadmau5 couldn't feasibly perform his songs in real time. It would be too difficult. And even if you decided to trigger everything on stage and make the arrangement with sequencers and synths, you can't just whip up that kind of music. It's very delicately arranged and everything single sample or sound is deliberately placed in the mix. You couldn't compose Strobe, a ten minute song, live.




So they're able to bring a 2hour experience and his music is so complex he can't sequence ten minutes?

He is perhaps the new Mozart. O wait...

Don't put him up a pedestal, just enjoy his music:mushroom2:

Good vibes, partyhardy :rave:




No, dude, he really couldn't, and there would be no point. It would be damned difficult. Also hardware sequencers all have play buttons too, so he just presses one and makes his life a helluva lot easier. And with his music, it's all packed into DAW. In order to record it, he never had to sequence or perform it in real time, in one take, or even in multiple takes. Things are recorded, and sometimes they're not, and they are placed on a grid, and then a bunch of automations are programmed in. Then that file is bounced and voila, you have the final mix as an mp3 or .wav or whatever. So that's how it's done. When you have like 20 or more audio tracks in a single song, how would you do that live? Your criticism has no merit.


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: un-known-ome]
    #19217549 - 12/02/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As a huge MAU5-junkie, I have to say no.
Although he is a mssive influenece in the modern house genre, there are much better electronic. Artists than him.
He revolutionized house music, so maybe he can be debatively crowned king of house?

And
Its much more complicated than pressing play, man.
A lot of electronic producers go up on stage with their song on a record, but they can manipulate and add to/sjbtract from the song as they please.
Hell, look at Daft Punk's "alive" mixes, the songs are MUCH different because he mixes them live rather than "just press play"

P.s
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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: Krat0s]
    #19219418 - 12/02/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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As a huge MAU5-junkie, I have to say no.
Although he is a mssive influenece in the modern house genre, there are much better electronic. Artists than him.
He revolutionized house music, so maybe he can be debatively crowned king of house?

And
Its much more complicated than pressing play, man.
A lot of electronic producers go up on stage with their song on a record, but they can manipulate and add to/sjbtract from the song as they please.
Hell, look at Daft Punk's "alive" mixes, the songs are MUCH different because he mixes them live rather than "just press play"

P.s
Skrillfag is the exception to the "just press play" thing.




Yeah, I know it is. I've tried to dip my toes into electronic music production and there is a lot more that goes into it than the lay person might think. I would agree that he has revolutionized house music. And again I want to distinguish between an artist and a producer. Artistically, it would be rather difficult to make the assertion that Deadmau5 is in the uppermost tier, but as a producer, he's pretty killer. I think the one thing that some people miss is that his songs are not just rehashed, slutty EDM. They're not. It's not the same old radio crap. It's not pop music. Does that crowd listen to it? Absolutely. But as someone who appreciates good music, that's what he makes. A song like Complications is just an excellent piece of music. It's just a great track. And no one's making music quite like that, so to say it's generic is misguided. I mean, his songs have depth that an untrained pair of ears wouldn't pick up, apparently.


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: un-known-ome]
    #19231056 - 12/05/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time?




HAHA,
to be fair ive listen to a fair share of deamau5 and have enjoyed his stuff on many occasions
however, i find his stuff has become more and more generic and ive stopped listening to it

i know its all an opinion, but personally i dont think deamau5 is anywhere near approaching the title of 'Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time'. lol


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Re: Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time? [Re: spazmodog]
    #19233151 - 12/05/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Is Deadmau5 the Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time?




HAHA,
to be fair ive listen to a fair share of deamau5 and have enjoyed his stuff on many occasions
however, i find his stuff has become more and more generic and ive stopped listening to it

i know its all an opinion, but personally i dont think deamau5 is anywhere near approaching the title of 'Greatest Electronic Producer of All Time'. lol




Fair enough. I think he is somewhere near there in his own right. The impression I get is that he's too popular and he doesn't make rehashed Aphex Twin type beats, so he 's automatically shit in some people's books. I mean, but really, am I wrong?


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