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Dammit...
    #19184028 - 11/24/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The scene begins with me and Mr Buffalo up to our elbows in poo, filling a monotub.

Me: :::dumps pasteurized poo into the tub:::

Mr Buffalo: "Um, aren't you going to line the tub with a trash bag?"

Me: "Meh. People only really do it to prevent side pinning because it's annoying. It always sorta happens anyway, and it doesn't really bother me that much."

Mr Buffalo: "Ooook..."

Two weeks later.



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Re: Dammit... [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19184047 - 11/24/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

lol I bet you can't complain on having shroomies grow tho regardless of location!


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Re: Dammit... [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19184071 - 11/24/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

casing isn,t really needed. if its cubie. could be poor genes.or a multispore , with icompatible mono,s. prob just a lose , from either contams. or multispore.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: bluecap]
    #19184115 - 11/24/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm pretty sure it's because the weather got very dry and they weren't getting enough moisture, and decided to pin themselves in the dampest, warmest place in the box. The ones that were growing the fastest on the one side were closest to the heating unit. I managed to get a decent yield of ALL SIDEPINS. Well, there was that one dinky one that was not a side pin. There hasn't been much of a second flush yet, just two freakishly large fruits, again from the side. I'm thinking I might try a reverse casing next time, so the dirt layer is on the sides and bottom and the top is naked, because apparently they seem to not want to touch the dirt. :mad2:


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Re: Dammit... [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19184138 - 11/24/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ya , they seem to love the freshair, and zero in on the fresh air shortly after pinning. I say freshair is key. then evaporation , then light...:smile:


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Re: Dammit... [Re: bluecap]
    #19184156 - 11/24/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i think it was slaphappypill who did a neat write up about harvesting side pins using a tote the same size as the one you fruited in, i'll try find it


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Re: Dammit... [Re: cronicr]
    #19184161 - 11/24/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Dammit... [Re: cronicr]
    #19184200 - 11/24/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ya, I prefer pins personnaly. but I love to grow every flush, until contam sets in. I stretch it out...... on flushes , using a lime dunk.i cut my shrooms and dunk pelletized lime to alter the ph towards myc vs high acid contams...peace and good grows to al...:smile:


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Re: Dammit... [Re: bluecap] * 1
    #19184235 - 11/24/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Dammit... [Re: cronicr]
    #19184319 - 11/24/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ya, u know they will contam sooner or later. I just up the odds in my favor by altering the ph of the fruiting substrate. it works ...:]


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Re: Dammit... [Re: cronicr]
    #19184471 - 11/24/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i think it was slaphappypill who did a neat write up about harvesting side pins using a tote the same size as the one you fruited in, i'll try find it




PastyWhyte does that, I think.  From what he told me, he's had success in putting the second tub in on top of the fruited substrate, then flipping and removing the outside tub to harvest all the side and bottom pins.

Speaking of which, have you looked at the bottom of your monotub, OP?  I think it might make you :kingcrankey::kingcrankey:


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Re: Dammit... [Re: bluecap]
    #19184509 - 11/24/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ya, I prefer pins personnaly. but I love to grow every flush, until contam sets in. I stretch it out...... on flushes , using a lime dunk.i cut my shrooms and dunk pelletized lime to alter the ph towards myc vs high acid contams...peace and good grows to al...:smile:



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Re: Dammit... [Re: Psilicon]
    #19184513 - 11/24/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's exactly what I do. Easy as pie to harvest. OP probably does have a burtload of bottom pins for sure.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19184523 - 11/24/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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That's exactly what I do. Easy as pie to harvest. OP probably does have a burtload of bottom pins for sure.



i remember it in your journal with the ksss that wouldn't die if i remember correctly:thumbup:


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Re: Dammit... [Re: Psilicon]
    #19184526 - 11/24/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Your upper layer isn't getting enough moisture to maintain evap.
Plug your bottom holes tighter to raise the level of humid air.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19184542 - 11/24/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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That's exactly what I do. Easy as pie to harvest. OP probably does have a burtload of bottom pins for sure.



:thumbup:
i bet her chambers fine


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Re: Dammit... [Re: cronicr]
    #19184565 - 11/24/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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That's exactly what I do. Easy as pie to harvest. OP probably does have a burtload of bottom pins for sure.



i remember it in your journal with the ksss that wouldn't die if i remember correctly:thumbup:



LOL that tub just didn't want to give up :lol:


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Re: Dammit... [Re: cronicr]
    #19184637 - 11/24/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Your upper layer isn't getting enough moisture to maintain evap.
Plug your bottom holes tighter to raise the level of humid air.




I'm pretty sure that was what was going on. I actually had the top holes completely open, and I stuffed a very light wad of stuffing in them, too. I've been periodically misting through one of the holes to try to increase the humidity.
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That's exactly what I do. Easy as pie to harvest. OP probably does have a burtload of bottom pins for sure.



:thumbup:
i bet her chambers fine




There were actually only maybe 1 or 2 bottom pins, and those little retards are just going to have to accept their fate for failing at life.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19184676 - 11/24/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They're going to push up on the bottom of that substrate like a hydraulic lift, and then you'll have all sorts of bottom pins!  :rofl:


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Re: Dammit... [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19184699 - 11/24/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Apparently Phallus sp. is literally strong enough to push up pavement. Huge boner mushrooms piercing your driveway sounds freaky as shit, lol.



I never thought of harvesting side pins like that. I just took a large santoku knife and sliced all the way around. That sounds way easier. I've also never thought to dunk a tub. I'll give it a whirl, maybe they'll like going naked.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19185148 - 11/25/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Let me be the first to say that IME, proper conditions and topside-only fruiting will give better results (yield) than fruiting on all possible sides in the same conditions.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19186265 - 11/25/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sure, if only due to greater surface area alone.

I think I'm going to try this reverse casing thing. Though lining it with a trash bag does allow for a slick removal if you just kinda flip the bag inside out around the mat of spent mycelium. Oh well: upside of this grow was that I ended up having to consolidate the grain for 3 weeks, so the potency is :thumbup:

:trippinbawelz:

You guys need to try that.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19186460 - 11/25/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm sure, if only due to greater surface area alone.

upside of this grow was that I ended up having to consolidate the grain for 3 weeks, so the potency is :thumbup:




Are you saying you are sure fruiting on all possible sides will increase yield, because of the greater surface area?

This isn't the case in practice, that is what I was saying.

Also consolidation does not increase potency. You got some potent genetics is all.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19186530 - 11/25/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

She may be referring to this thread


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Re: Dammit... [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19186553 - 11/25/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I remember that thread.

I treat that member's posts with some serious skepticism :lol:


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Re: Dammit... [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19186572 - 11/25/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I did too until RR piped in.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19186583 - 11/25/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, but that was two years ago :shrug:

I've consolidated grains for up to two weeks just because I fell behind. Never noticed any increase in potency on my isolates.

And I'm pretty sure PS is using multispore for that thread.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19186850 - 11/25/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Let me be the first to say that IME, proper conditions and topside-only fruiting will give better results (yield) than fruiting on all possible sides in the same conditions.




I have noticed this as well, would you say that when there is a possibility to pin from the side that it will do so due to a preference to pin from the side. I had read before RR saying that cubes have a preference to pin from the side in nature. What are your thoughts on this.

I always keep the liner until the top is rather exhausted, lets say after the 3rd or 4th flush, at which point I remove the liner and sometimes flip the sub. The bottom of the sub will still pin at that point, but it will be minimal compared to the agressive pinning from the sides. Not a bad practice when trying to squeeze out a fifth flush, but definitely detrimental to start that way. It also seems that if the liner is not well applied that once a few pins get in there and push it away, the floodgates open and more pins form there which used to cause me to have poor second and third flushes. This is my theory on why slatting is such a dismal failure as well. Pins will only want to form where a side is perceived. I also think that this explains why cakes prefer to pin from the sides. Any thoughts on these observations?


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Re: Dammit... [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19191358 - 11/26/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Also consolidation does not increase potency. You got some potent genetics is all.




OH SNAP. PrimalSoup and Violet are gonna tag team yo ass.

Actually, PrimalSoup, though I bust his balls about his love affair with PE, is way too chill a dude to serve a smackdown. And Violet seems pretty nice, too.

I was also a little skeptical about the idea until RR piped in, precisely because I like to bust PS's balls about PE and other potency-related lore. I WILL NOT RELENT ON THIS, PS. Until you give me a swab and I try it for myself. And I probably still won't relent sheerly for my own entertainment, unless it blows my mind, in which case I'll consider admitting defeat. I'm fair like that.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19191422 - 11/26/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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PrimalSoup and Violet are gonna tag team yo ass.





I'm so scared :lmafo:


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    #19192449 - 11/26/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hahaha, that's pretty funny.
I won't "tag-team" your ass :tongue:, but how about we discuss some facts of the matter?
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I remember that thread.
I treat that member's posts with some serious skepticism :lol:



I did too until RR piped in.



Yeah, but that was two years ago :shrug:



And has he said anything to the opposite effect since then?
Nope.

In fact this 6-yr-old quote is the only other thing he's said on the matter.
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Allowing a substrate to consolidate its hold on the substrate before introducing to fruiting conditions is good practice.  By digesting more food before fruiting, better quality fruits are produced. Other than that, there are no known ways to readily increase potency in substrates. 
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I've consolidated grains for up to two weeks just because I fell behind. Never noticed any increase in potency on my isolates.



It doesn't matter that you "consolidated" your grains, because you Destroyed that colony for "spawning", essentially starting a new colony and restarting the grow.  Besides, 'never noticing' doesn't mean it hasn't occurred to an unnoticed degree.

You've also said on numerous occasions not only that it has been years since you've tripped (and certainly if that's changed since then it won't have changed much),  but that you don't care about potency anyway,
So I take your statements about potency for no more of an expert opinion than it really is, and so ought savvy readers.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: Violet]
    #19192596 - 11/26/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'll certainly "admit" firstly that consolidating BULK substrates doesn't help much.  They want to get their one hurried big flush out just about as soon as they can, and the potential for increased potency is mostly lost to the over-dilution of the nutrition over watermass with 3-10x the mycelium culture.
So it's no surprise to hear people that grow practically only such methods say they don't experience a difference.
Even if the difference were there it would be quite subtle and such people seldom have an eye out for such subtleties.

I'd suggest not bothering to consolidate unless on straight-grains where you kindof have to anyway before they'll fruit heartily.
But for achieving a not-so-subtle potency difference I suggest using a grow tech where one can take full advantage of the consolidating "procedure" which is truly just waiting a bit longer!


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Re: Dammit... [Re: Violet]
    #19192793 - 11/26/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The oft repeated statement that you only get one flush off of any bulk grow will come as surprise to many.

It's a pure bullshit statement.



Think about it for a sec...

There's PLENTY of proof to the contrary around here. Tens of thousands of grow threads over the years prove that statement wrong.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: InTheBiggun]
    #19192815 - 11/26/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Dammit... [Re: InTheBiggun]
    #19192875 - 11/26/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What's REALLY bullshit is following specific people around on forums for the purpose of twisting their statements. 

I said one BIG flush, not only one flush.  Duh.  How'd you misread that so badly?
Or are you saying that the known predictable flush curve of bulks is bullshit?

One giant flush, dwindling stragglers.
Show me a 2nd flush from bulk sub that puts off near as much as or more than the first flush (presuming of course that the first flush is what it should be)


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    #19192910 - 11/26/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've consolidated grains for up to two weeks just because I fell behind. Never noticed any increase in potency on my isolates.




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Re: Dammit... [Re: Violet]
    #19192912 - 11/26/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've consolidated grains for up to two weeks just because I fell behind. Never noticed any increase in potency on my isolates.



It doesn't matter that you "consolidated" your grains, because you Destroyed that colony for "spawning", essentially starting a new colony and restarting the grow.  Besides, 'never noticing' doesn't mean it hasn't occurred to an unnoticed degree.

You've also said on numerous occasions not only that it has been years since you've tripped (and certainly if that's changed since then it won't have changed much),  but that you don't care about potency anyway,
So I take your statements about potency for no more of an expert opinion than it really is, and so ought savvy readers.




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Re: Dammit... [Re: Violet]
    #19192919 - 11/26/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There's been a lot of talk by the self-styled "new-age" set that bulk grows have one flush and then contam. Everything I'm seeing and reading points to the fact that this is bad information.

Type 5th flush in the search bar... or 6th, or even 7th flush.

For the lazy crowd here's the links.

5th flush:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?terms=5th+flush

7th flush:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?terms=7th+flush

You get the idea.

I didn't bother searching 8th flush. Probably results for that to.

It was a combination of what you said there Violet, about bulkers wanting one big flush...not 3 or 4, or 7.

Why shouldn't a "bulker" want or expect several flushes in your opinion? Is it because of what I've heard both you and anne say...that bulk grows contam-out after the first flush?


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    #19192925 - 11/26/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You avoided the point.
It's not the number of flushes, you can keep letting substrates go until they contam.  You can number the following "flushes" as you like.
It's the size of those subsequent flushes.
And it's about TOTAL YIELD.

"
Or are you saying that the known predictable flush curve of bulks is bullshit?

One giant flush, dwindling stragglers.
Show me a 2nd flush from bulk sub that puts off near as much as or more than the first flush (presuming of course that the first flush is what it should be)
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Re: Dammit... [Re: Violet]
    #19192941 - 11/26/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP used his grains he consolidated as spawn, rendering this whole argument a moot point if violet's word is to be taken.

This has zero to do with the original post at this point. Imagine that :shake:


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    #19192956 - 11/26/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Actually that's a good point.  I kinda didn't fully realize OP was spawning, was just discussing that specific topic.
OP discussed consolidating her final fruiting substrate.
It was just you that mentioned having consolidated grains as your basis of experience for thinking it's moot.  Never a moot one as long as the facts are the facts.  We get the facts posted and misperceptions corrected, yes?


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    #19192963 - 11/26/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Dammit... [Re: InTheBiggun]
    #19193171 - 11/26/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

no you arent bigguns, your a known and confessed sock puppet.
your here to sow discontent, in hopes  bore-um topia will rise from the dead.......
you soil everyone here.

frank, i dont consider anything you say valid,
as its well known ya run a filthy grow.

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now run and tell, how the truth offended you both so much.
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Re: Dammit... [Re: anne halonium]
    #19193343 - 11/26/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

put all this bs aside , and tell the op why his grow dident go as planned...  :smile:


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Re: Dammit... [Re: bluecap]
    #19193360 - 11/26/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:hi:
i think we get the point people, can consolidation improve your fruits potential=yes
does it take them to a completely new level=no, the difference if any would be minimal and we can all agree that genetics is key and will always trump consolidation

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put all this bs aside , and tell the op why his grow dident go as planned...  :smile:



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    #19193423 - 11/26/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

hi bro, just sayin...haha...lets all work together...


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    #19193613 - 11/26/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i know i know but this is shroomery...it's not easy lol, hopefully the op updates:thumbup:


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Re: Dammit... [Re: cronicr]
    #19193657 - 11/26/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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:hi:
i think we get the point people, can consolidation improve your fruits potential=yes
does it take them to a completely new level=no, the difference if any would be minimal and we can all agree that genetics is key and will always trump consolidation

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put all this bs aside , and tell the op why his grow dident go as planned...  :smile:



the op knew where she fucked up, didn't listen to her husband




I don't think we can say any of that with any certainty.  Yeah, it's a compromise between the two sides of this argument, but honestly nobody offered even a shred of anecdotal evidence from either side, and I'm reluctant to agree that the middle ground is right just because it's the middle ground. 

And I personally I think the play-sexism that happens in forums like these is part of what keeps women from voicing their opinions on the internet and maybe we should cut it out.


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Re: Dammit... [Re: Psilicon]
    #19193682 - 11/26/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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And I personally I think the play-sexism that happens in forums like these is part of what keeps women from voicing their opinions on the internet and maybe we should cut it out.



? i don't get that one, her husband told her to use a liner, she didn't listen, she got side pins:shrug:


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    #19193697 - 11/26/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ihave to disagree man. I think a good woman is worth her weight in gold. and all my mushgrowing is fact not fiction.  :smile:


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    #19193731 - 11/26/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cronicr, I guess I read too much into that.  My bad.

Bluecap, I never meant to accuse you of sexism or lying--you just got caught in a quote sandwich. 

I didn't accuse ANYBODY of lying, for that matter.  But it's kind of important to note that neither side here is saying, "I have done a clonal study on this exact thing and this is what I can tell you."  That's why I'm reluctant to agree on any kind of middle ground:  nobody has really said what their argument is based on yet.  That is all.


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    #19193845 - 11/26/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

no probs man. just info and what works for one.... maynot always works for..use the grain you have available, as well as vegetarian animals such as horse or cow , orllama or kangaroos. I suspect all grasseaters will work...


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Re: Dammit... [Re: bluecap]
    #19197660 - 11/27/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:jacked:

Damn, y'all.

I thought the trajectory of this thread, if anywhere, was headed for speculation and conjecture about which circle of hell the Side-Pinning Fairy hails from. I think maybe the 5th.


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    #19198844 - 11/27/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have side pins because your liner is taped to the sides of the tub.


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    #19198994 - 11/28/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You have side pins because your liner is taped to the sides of the tub.




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    #19199023 - 11/28/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oops, got this thread confused with a different one.

Use a liner next time OP :wink:


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