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Re: College Football '13 [Re: Pureless]
#19181889 - 11/24/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
#19181964 - 11/24/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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jewunit said: Well, not really. That goes along with the same perception that I talked about earlier with them losing two national titles in a row, the second of which they didn't have any business being in. It's just that all of college football that year sucked (teams appearing in the BCS that year include Kansas, Hawaii, West Virginia, and Illinois).
Ohio State has the most BCS appearances at 9 and is tied for most BCS wins with USC at 6. Since the year before I went to college (so the 05-06 season) they are 2-3 along with a vacated win over Arkansas. The losses were to Florida, LSU, and Texas with wins over Oregon and Notre Dame. So in 7 years they made it to 6 BCS bowls and went even.
I've been watching college football since around 1970 and seem to recall the entire Big Ten shitting the bed in the Rose Bowl most years. There was college football before the BCS.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: zappaisgod]
#19182267 - 11/24/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#19182486 - 11/24/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I picked the years I did for a couple of reasons.
1) It's not 1970, so I don't really care. During the current era, Ohio State is one of the most successful programs in the country in the BCS.
2) I didn't give a fuck about Ohio State before 2005.
Overall Ohio State is 19-24 in bowl games (really it's 20 wins, but whatever). In the last 20 years they are 9-9. They've been to the Rose Bowl most (duh) going 7-7.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
#19182667 - 11/24/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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.500 isn’t really anything to brag about.
Pac 12 has completely owned the rose bowl in recent years. Rose bowl is my favorite game in any level of football, and you best believe i cheered for Wisco the last two years.
This years rose bowl could get mighty interesting. Especially if ASU shocks everybody, which they very well might do. I want MSU to win but I doubt they do.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: elax420]
#19182698 - 11/24/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Pac-12 can dominate, that's fine. His original point was about Ohio State and not the entirety of the B1G and nothing to do with the Pac-12.
I'd say .500 is worth bragging about when you're talking about a span of 18 bowl games in 20 years, and going 6-3 in BCS bowls. Not to mention I brought it up because Zappa asked if Ohio State shits the bed in most big bowl games. They don't. I don't really feel like looking up any more statistics, but the BCS record couldn't be matched by anyone in the Pac 12 except USC and that's probably also true of the last 20 years. Once again SEC teams would put that record to shame, but that's about it.
USC crushes the Rose Bowl, though. 23-8 overall (I think 2 are vacated?). And that Pac-12 domination in the Rose Bowl in recent years is really just USC's domination.
Edit: This is one thing that always kind of annoyed me about college football and its fans. I'm not a B1G fan, I'm an Ohio State fan. Sure, I want to see B1G teams win when they're not playing my team, but I don't really care. Unless it's Michigan, then I want them to lose regardless. If the Pac-12 is dominating the Rose Bowl (which again they're not, USC is) I don't really care as long as Ohio State wins when they play in it (they did the last time). Fans use other schools successes to pump up their own program. You're not a better team because you play in the same conference as USC or Alabama or whatever else.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
#19182831 - 11/24/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah
Conference homers are faggots. The south is so full of that shit. I support Georgia. Hooray Bama won again. Wtf? That's gay as shit. And the PAC 12? It looks like they added Utah to soften the schedule for the real members.
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Utah is undefeated in BCS games 
Nice try though.
Is Ohio St not part of the B1G?
Did i not tell you i cheered for wisconsin the last two rose bowls.. I just really dislike OSU and don’t care for michigan state, like stanford, dislike ASU but would rather have either win over the other options. It also means a shitload of money for my school if they do win.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: elax420]
#19183004 - 11/24/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didn't say they weren't part of the Big Ten... What are you trying to say?
Utah is undefeated in BCS games, but they are still garbage right now. I think that was SunRa's point.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
#19183054 - 11/24/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eh they can’t seem to get the win but they beat the best team in the pac, and put both UCLA and ASU on the spot big time. They definitely haven’t softened anyones schedule, and are one of the few teams that will schedule teams that aren’t complete pushovers for their out of conference games.
Thats a dumb argument. that like saying Georgia is just there to soften the SEC schedule. They have had one big win and have had quite a few heartbreaking losses to the real heads of state.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
#19183249 - 11/24/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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jewunit said:
Edit: This is one thing that always kind of annoyed me about college football and its fans. I'm not a B1G fan, I'm an Ohio State fan. Sure, I want to see B1G teams win when they're not playing my team, but I don't really care. Unless it's Michigan, then I want them to lose regardless.
Normally I'm the same way, but the Big Ten is just such fucking trash nationally (and rightfully so) that I'd actually pull for the Buckeyes this year. I mean I'd like to see the Big Ten kind of start to turn the tide at some point into being a respected conference again and Ohio State Fuckeye success on a national level could help that a little bit, I guess. So if they sneak into the title game, I'd root for them.
But if they got murdered it's not like I'd lose any sleep.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: Niffla]
#19183282 - 11/24/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, if Michigan were in the same position then I would probably pull for them.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: Niffla]
#19183292 - 11/24/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
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jewunit said:
Edit: This is one thing that always kind of annoyed me about college football and its fans. I'm not a B1G fan, I'm an Ohio State fan. Sure, I want to see B1G teams win when they're not playing my team, but I don't really care. Unless it's Michigan, then I want them to lose regardless.
Normally I'm the same way, but the Big Ten is just such fucking trash nationally (and rightfully so) that I'd actually pull for the Buckeyes this year. I mean I'd like to see the Big Ten kind of start to turn the tide at some point into being a respected conference again and Ohio State Fuckeye success on a national level could help that a little bit, I guess. So if they sneak into the title game, I'd root for them.
But if they got murdered it's not like I'd lose any sleep.
That's how I feel being a Michigan fan. I root for Ohio State any time they arent playing us
I really want to see OSU vs. FSU for the national championship
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: Niffla]
#19183310 - 11/24/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This stretch is what I remembered
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1970 USC 10 Michigan 3 1971 Stanford 27 Ohio State 17 1972 Stanford 13 Michigan 12 1973 USC 42 Ohio State 17 1974 Ohio State 42 USC 21 1975 USC 18 Ohio State 17 1976 UCLA 23 Ohio State 10 1977 USC 14 Michigan 6 1978 Washington 27 Michigan 20 1979 USC 17 Michigan 10 1980 USC 17 Ohio State 16 1981 Michigan 23 Washington 6 1982 Washington 28 Iowa 0 1983 UCLA 24 Michigan 14 1984 UCLA 45 Illinois 9 1985 USC 20 Ohio State 17 1986 UCLA 45 Iowa 28 1987 Arizona State 22 Michigan 15 1988 Michigan State 20 USC 17 1989 Michigan 22 USC 14 1990 USC 17 Michigan 10 1991 Washington 46 Iowa 34 1992 Washington 34 Michigan 14
Pretty lame
Ohio State and Michigan each had more Rose Bowl losses than the whole conference had wins
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KillerPicklez said:
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Niffla said:
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jewunit said:
Edit: This is one thing that always kind of annoyed me about college football and its fans. I'm not a B1G fan, I'm an Ohio State fan. Sure, I want to see B1G teams win when they're not playing my team, but I don't really care. Unless it's Michigan, then I want them to lose regardless.
Normally I'm the same way, but the Big Ten is just such fucking trash nationally (and rightfully so) that I'd actually pull for the Buckeyes this year. I mean I'd like to see the Big Ten kind of start to turn the tide at some point into being a respected conference again and Ohio State Fuckeye success on a national level could help that a little bit, I guess. So if they sneak into the title game, I'd root for them.
But if they got murdered it's not like I'd lose any sleep.
OSU vs. FSU for the national championship
Yup rose bowl is the last game for me even pretend to care about, unless Auburn winds up in the NC game.
One of the worst years for college football that i can remember. Heisman trophy contest is complete shit too.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
#19183477 - 11/24/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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jewunit said: I didn't say they weren't part of the Big Ten... What are you trying to say?
Utah is undefeated in BCS games, but they are still garbage right now. I think that was SunRa's point.

It's Cali's house. Coliseum, Rose Bowl, Stanford, Berkeley. That's permanent.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: zappaisgod]
#19183525 - 11/24/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: This stretch is what I remembered
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1970 USC 10 Michigan 3 1971 Stanford 27 Ohio State 17 1972 Stanford 13 Michigan 12 1973 USC 42 Ohio State 17 1974 Ohio State 42 USC 21 1975 USC 18 Ohio State 17 1976 UCLA 23 Ohio State 10 1977 USC 14 Michigan 6 1978 Washington 27 Michigan 20 1979 USC 17 Michigan 10 1980 USC 17 Ohio State 16 1981 Michigan 23 Washington 6 1982 Washington 28 Iowa 0 1983 UCLA 24 Michigan 14 1984 UCLA 45 Illinois 9 1985 USC 20 Ohio State 17 1986 UCLA 45 Iowa 28 1987 Arizona State 22 Michigan 15 1988 Michigan State 20 USC 17 1989 Michigan 22 USC 14 1990 USC 17 Michigan 10 1991 Washington 46 Iowa 34 1992 Washington 34 Michigan 14
Pretty lame
Ohio State and Michigan each had more Rose Bowl losses than the whole conference had wins
That stretch has Ohio State getting shit on once and losing by ten two other times.
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zappaisgod said: Doesn't Ohio State shit the bed in most of the top bowl games it gets into?
So again... no.
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#19183623 - 11/24/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Losing is shitting the bed.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: zappaisgod]
#19183857 - 11/24/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, so you posted a 20 year stretch where they lost more than won.
I posted a much more recent 20 year stretch where they have won and lost the Rose Bowl the same amount of times and won more BCS bowl games than they've lost.
So again... no, they do not shit the bed in most top bowl games. They just don't. They used to I guess, but that means absolutely nothing.
In fact, anything more than a year or two means absolutely nothing in college sports. I understand you're a Yankees fan, and you guys have this strange obsession with things that happened before you were even born, but lets try and stay grounded in current reality every now and then.
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Re: College Football '13 [Re: jewunit]
#19184005 - 11/24/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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jewunit said: Okay, so you posted a 20 year stretch where they lost more than won.
I posted a much more recent 20 year stretch where they have won and lost the Rose Bowl the same amount of times and won more BCS bowl games than they've lost.
So again... no, they do not shit the bed in most top bowl games. They just don't. They used to I guess, but that means absolutely nothing.
In fact, anything more than a year or two means absolutely nothing in college sports. I understand you're a Yankees fan, and you guys have this strange obsession with things that happened before you were even born, but lets try and stay grounded in current reality every now and then.
The Yankees have won 10 championships since I was born in 1956 (I'm not counting '56 since I hadn't been born yet that year}.
Ohio State used to suck but they don't now so it doesn't count? How have they done, anyway. He just posted the Rose Bowl results which, when I grew up, was the bowl that good Big Ten teams played in. The BCS is bullshit and so are most of their bowl games
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