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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G]
#19182294 - 11/24/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: To answer your question, approximately 10% of people were self-submissions. They can stay up, they're fine. 40% of people had their computer and email hacked to retrieve the photos and identification, the FBI identified him and his name was Mark something. The rest I believe were submitted by jilted lovers or other people who had access to the photo. Some apparently are not even the person's real photo, such as the teacher who had her head photoshopped on a pornographic photo and was stalked in her small home-town after.
I didn't actually ask, but thanks. The photo submissions by ex boyfriends, etc. Did the boyfriends have possession of these photos legally? What I mean by this is, did they take the photos or get them from the person who did with consent? Is it a pay site or a free site?
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Enlil]
#19182301 - 11/24/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said: I didn't actually ask, but thanks. The photo submissions by ex boyfriends, etc. Did the boyfriends have possession of these photos legally? What I mean by this is, did they take the photos or get them from the person who did with consent? Is it a pay site or a free site?
I believe it's a free site, however the owner makes money off it mostly due to hits and ad views.
In some cases, the boyfriends/husbands took these photos and had it themselves. In other cases, the woman took them with her camera, and then sent it by text to her boyfriend/husband. I'm not sure who would make that the rightful owner on. Maybe you can clarify for me.
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G]
#19182304 - 11/24/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil, do you think that legally, this guy could be charged for promoting and distributing underage pornography? And do you think that this guy could be charged with assisting in stalking, if he provides addresses and google maps directions and even satellite views to their houses? Is it even legal to post somebody's personal info such as their social security card without their consent?
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G] 1
#19182305 - 11/24/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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against revenge-porn king Hunter Thompson.
Hunter Thompson wrote Fear and Loathing... I think you mean Hunter MOORE... "Operation No Moore"...
Probably a Shroomroidian slip.
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G]
#19182314 - 11/24/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whoever took the picture generally holds the copyright for the photo itself. As I mentioned above, it isn't illegal to distribute someone's likeness, but it is a tort to distribute the likeness for a commercial purpose without permission. I'd say getting paid for advertising makes it a commercial purpose.
People could sue for appropriation, and they would likely be able to get some relief, but it's not really going to hurt the guy a lot. The child porn route is the way to really send him away.
Giving out the name and address, etc isn't generally illegal, but there are certainly states that have specific laws about such things.
As far as the ones that have had their photos stolen, that's a different situation, and those people should be able to get their photos removed from the site with a legal action. Unfortunately, they won't be able to rid the internet of those photos because thay have been so widely distributed.
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Moorning Due]
#19182315 - 11/24/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh yeah. Edited. Must have been a Shroomroidian slip, definitely.
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G]
#19182323 - 11/24/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: Enlil, do you think that legally, this guy could be charged for promoting and distributing underage pornography? And do you think that this guy could be charged with assisting in stalking, if he provides addresses and google maps directions and even satellite views to their houses? Is it even legal to post somebody's personal info such as their social security card without their consent?
He can't be charged with the stalking unless he specifically helps someone knowing that he plans to stalk and with the intention of helping him stalk...those are going to be nearly impossible to prove.
The child porn thing is plausible, particularly if he knows the identities of the people in the photos. It is a strict liability crime, so he doesn't have to know the age even. The only tough part for the cops is identifying the people in the photos and proving they were under 18 at the time...If dude is publishing identities, that makes the cops' job much easier.
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Enlil]
#19182328 - 11/24/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Whoever took the picture generally holds the copyright for the photo itself. As I mentioned above, it isn't illegal to distribute someone's likeness, but it is a tort to distribute the likeness for a commercial purpose without permission. I'd say getting paid for advertising makes it a commercial purpose.
People could sue for appropriation, and they would likely be able to get some relief, but it's not really going to hurt the guy a lot. The child porn route is the way to really send him away.
Giving out the name and address, etc isn't generally illegal, but there are certainly states that have specific laws about such things.
As far as the ones that have had their photos stolen, that's a different situation, and those people should be able to get their photos removed from the site with a legal action. Unfortunately, they won't be able to rid the internet of those photos because thay have been so widely distributed.
What if somebody takes somebody else's photo and slightly doctors it, such as editing the lighting and contrast, or mirroring the photo? Would that give the person those rights to that photo?
So, the way that this guy's website works is, he never uploads the photos themselves. He has an upload link, where users and members can upload the pictures themselves. Can this guy still be charged for distributing these pictures for a commercial purpose in this case, if he's simply hosting these pictures (and refusing to take the stolen photos down at request)?
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G]
#19182368 - 11/24/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Then you're getting into different territory. Assuming that the submission process includes a click-through where the submitter certifies that he has all rights to the content he's posting, the site has very little liability for publishing.
Of course, once the site learns that content has been posted without permission or that the content is illegal, that's a different issue altogether. At that point, the site has the responsibility to remove offending content.
For instance, if someone posts a picture of a 16 year old girl along with that girl's information (including age), then the site can't very well claim they didn't know the girl's age...
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Constantine]
#19183173 - 11/24/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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gzuf said: TIL that the rich and famous, specifically musicians, can't have faults just like any other person. Interesting 
That's not the point. The point is, Lennon wasn't a great guy, he was a piece of shit who beat his wife and emotionally abused his kid.
so john lennon was a bad guy?.. , or is this off of another conspiracy site?
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: zZZz]
#19183179 - 11/24/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Whether he was good or bad depends on your definition of bad. He was a wife-beating heroin addict with a terrible temper...does that make him bad?
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: zZZz]
#19183182 - 11/24/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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gzuf said: TIL that the rich and famous, specifically musicians, can't have faults just like any other person. Interesting 
That's not the point. The point is, Lennon wasn't a great guy, he was a piece of shit who beat his wife and emotionally abused his kid.
so john lennon was a bad guy?.. , or is this off of another conspiracy site? has the main stream media confirmed this? or was it just another source i deem less reliable.
fix'd that for you
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Enlil]
#19183183 - 11/24/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes.
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: zappaisgod]
#19183207 - 11/24/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yoko was a bitch though wasn't she?, if she deserved it i don't it was nessesarily a bad thing
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: zZZz]
#19183245 - 11/24/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think she's the wife he beat.
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: zappaisgod]
#19183248 - 11/24/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I don't think she's the wife he beat.
She's not the first wife he beat, but she is certainly one of the wives he beat.
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Enlil]
#19183255 - 11/24/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had not heard that he beat Yoko but if he did

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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Enlil]
#19183267 - 11/24/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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this the first time hearing about these things, where did you get your sources?
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: zZZz]
#19183272 - 11/24/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Enlil]
#19183349 - 11/24/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just thought he was a douchebag because of Imagine
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