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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: gzuf]
    #19181853 - 11/24/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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TIL that the rich and famous, specifically musicians, can't have faults just like any other person. Interesting :strokebeard:




That's not the point. The point is, Lennon wasn't a great guy, he was a piece of shit who beat his wife and emotionally abused his kid.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Juicin]
    #19181870 - 11/24/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If you had been forced to listen to "i am the walrus" and all their other terrible albums over and over again as a teenager you would feel the same. I couldn't escape the Beetles as a teenager. We found drugs then everyone but me found the beetles....

edit - left the r off teenager multiple times....



I'm a child of the early 1980s. We had better music thaan the Beetles. But what you need to realize was that music of the Beetles era generally sucked and the Beetles sucked a lot less than the other music of the time. And under the influence of some things its not bad but still not what I'd pick. I think the music you like depends on what you grow up listening to. I like late 90s music the best personally, almost certainly because I was in high school and impressionable when it was all I listened to. Older people like older music. When you get old you'll still prefer the music of your own youth.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Constantine]
    #19181895 - 11/24/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Too bad the same courtesy wasn't extended to Yoko :hehehe:



No I don't think it's odd. Musicians don't live by their songs and if you think so you are straight up retarded. I think it's odd everyone expect the famous to not have problems, or to not be fucked up on some level. People expect them to act more like politicians than people sometimes and I think that's screwed up. Not a Lennon fanboy by any means but I hear this all the time, they did this this and this. I say so what, what makes them special? so did 1000000000000000000000000000000000 other people you know why it's not dwelled upon because they are just regular, they don't have these superimposed standards placed on them by society yet. Anyway if someone deserves a beating round here it's whoever created that shitty website.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G]
    #19181925 - 11/24/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't read any of the replies nor am I familiar with this case, but fuck Hunter Moore!

All he does is hit on 15 year olds that send him half-naked/naked pictures on twitter, it's disgusting. He's nearly 30, I think it's about time he stops hitting on underage little girls.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: gzuf] * 1
    #19181936 - 11/24/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Too bad the same courtesy wasn't extended to Yoko :hehehe:



No I don't think it's odd. Musicians don't live by their songs and if you think so you are straight up retarded. I think it's odd everyone expect the famous to not have problems, or to not be fucked up on some level. People expect them to act more like politicians than people sometimes and I think that's screwed up. Not a Lennon fanboy by any means but I hear this all the time, they did this this and this. I say so what, what makes them special? so did 1000000000000000000000000000000000 other people you know why it's not dwelled upon because they are just regular, they don't have these superimposed standards placed on them by society yet. Anyway if someone deserves a beating round here it's whoever created that shitty website.




Yea I expect the guy who sings about ditching region not to partake in ridiculous religious dogma. I expect the guy who says give peace a chance not to beat his fucking wife. Is that too much to ask? Especially when you portray yourself as some counter culture icon. He should be pinned for what he was a weak kneed greedy little bitch. Not some hero that was taken away from us too soon. The stories of national mourning by a large percentage of women in this country is enough to make you vomit.

He created that image, he nor anyone else has a right to bitch about it when some one points out how fucking pathetic he was.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Juicin]
    #19181972 - 11/24/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You reap what you sow.



John Lennon was a great example of this.




Yea like the women he's beat

Or the kid who says he was a terrible little bitch of a father?

Those haters? I always hated the Beatles music that article just vindicated everything I have ever felt about that band. This is a good moment for me



You seem to have misdirected this post.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #19181980 - 11/24/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I live in peace and love.



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those kids in CT deserved to die and I'm glad they're dead.




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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: gzuf] * 1
    #19181995 - 11/24/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Even if Lennon was a terrible person, it bears no relevance to the fact that he was murdered by a completely deranged stranger, simply because he knew who John Lennon was and stalked him until he found the right place and time to attack.

This is why I'm making the point, that it's one thing to simply circulate the pictures. It's another thing to post their home and work address. I think it's important to make the point that:
1)40% of the photos were never published or sent to another person at all, but simply obtained through illegal means (hacking),
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2)It's not just photos that are being published, it's the victim's full name, online media profiles, her home address, her work place, her parents' house, her boyfriend's house, etc.

I find it sad that even if the photo was consensual, that people indicated that she was somehow deserving of it because she decided to share something beautiful with her husband or boyfriend.

I find it even more sad that people are reluctant to defend people who never even published the photos online, and had their photos illegally obtained. This is basically the same thing as somebody breaking in to your doctor's office, finding all your embarrassing medical files about you, and posting publicly pictures of your gonorrhea-ridden genitals, and details about your embarrassing body odor and that you wet your pants routinely. This is like somebody breaking into your house, stealing your diary that you keep hidden in the closet, and posting your escapades about sleeping with herpes-infested prostitutes and buying meth with your secretly gay boss with whom you are having an affair with. With a picture of your face and your address and your name to identify you.

I find it funny that some people are claiming that "they never even keep photos of themselves in the computer" because they are that street-smart and savvy. Yet, you are posting on the Shroomery so clearly you are not taking that many precautions. This entire fiasco would be the equivalent of somebody taking all of your posts (including all your anonymous posts and your private messages) and posting them online with your face and home address so people can stalk you and report you to the police when you commit a minor crime.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Enlil]
    #19181998 - 11/24/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yea it says I replied to ellis but it only quoted you, odd

Maybe I deleted your quote on accident not sure, i'll just delete the quote


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G]
    #19182023 - 11/24/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Even if Lennon was a terrible person, it bears no relevance to the fact that he was murdered by a completely deranged stranger



It kinda does.  He was murdered by someone because of his hypocrisy.

Not every famous person hides out or uses security.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/aaron-paul-meets-fans-house-tour_n_3660714.html


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Enlil]
    #19182028 - 11/24/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It kinda does.  He was murdered by someone because of his hypocrisy.

Not every famous person hides out or uses security.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/aaron-paul-meets-fans-house-tour_n_3660714.html




How do you know it was because of his hypocrisy? Did the killer state that was the reason? If I recall correctly, the shooter was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. Sounds like somebody with a mental illness who didn't have any motive to me.

Edit: And... even if it was his hypocrisy, it is still a motive for murder that is so nonsensical that it could easily be applied to any of these women who were getting stalked because of this site. People have murdered for something as small as what somebody is preaching, or because they were ignored by the target, or because of the way they looked, or because or simply because they became obsessed about them.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: gzuf]
    #19182037 - 11/24/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I say so what, what makes them special? so did 1000000000000000000000000000000000 other people



That's more people than have ever lived in all of history.

I think you're lying.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G]
    #19182059 - 11/24/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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How do you know it was because of his hypocrisy? Did the killer state that was the reason? If I recall correctly, the shooter was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. Sounds like somebody with a mental illness who didn't have any motive to me.



Yes, Mark David Chapman has said many times that he killed Lennon because he was disillusioned by the fact that Lennon didn't follow the principles he preached in his songs.

As far as the women on that site, I don't know enough specifics about how the site gets its content to form anything resembling a valid opinion.



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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Enlil]
    #19182089 - 11/24/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The FBI raided Moore's home — or more accurately, his parent's home near Sacramento — breaking down the front door and confiscating Moore's computer, cell phone and other electronic equipment; and Camille felt compelled to move forward with The Village Voice article. Before going to press, she telephoned Moore for a statement. He went ballistic, cursing and making threats.

"Honestly, I will be fucking furious, and I will burn down fucking The Village Voice headquarters if you fucking write anything saying I have an FBI investigation," he said.

He asked who had supplied her with the FBI information, but she refused to say.

He added, "I will literally fucking buy a first-class plane ticket right now, eat an amazing meal, buy a gun in New York, and fucking kill whoever said that."




Why is he not in prison for making terrorist threats?


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19182098 - 11/24/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why is he not in prison for making terrorist threats?



Because he's white, terrorists only have brown/yellow skin... duhh.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19182127 - 11/24/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh okay. Lennon was before my time and I never bothered to read up on the details, as his case was never an interest of mine.

Still. It could definitely be a reasonable motive for disliking the guy, or not being his fan, or even going as far as writing him a letter of disapproval. But as a motive for MURDER, it is so nonsensical that it could just as easily happen to any of these women who were getting stalked because of this site. People have murdered for something as small as what somebody is preaching, or because they were ignored by the target, or because of the way they looked, or simply because they became obsessed about them.

Somebody can look at a bunch of pictures of somebody and be in a deranged mental state and clearly become obsessed about this person. They may decipher all these subliminal (but entirely nonexistent) messages in their pictures, such as their desire to want to be raped, or that they may have an inflated ego and believe they are better than everybody else, etc.

I remember some tweaker approached me at a rave once and was trying to start a fist fight with me :facepalm: because he claimed that my Myspace was evidentiary of my shallow absorption with myself, and my snobby and "rich-bitch" belief that I am better than everybody else (all of this was false, and I am paraphrasing what he said obviously, he was much more vulgar and less verbose than I). Apparently he tried to approach the guy I was with and pay him money to convince him to give me my home address. He made up all these lies claiming to know me, that I was a lie and a cheat and a thief, and that he knew that I had cheated on his best friend and narced a bunch of people out, and made up all this shit about me to try to convince the guy to give up my address. The guy I was with told this weirdo that he was wrong about me, that I was nothing like what he thought I was, and refused to give him my address.

I had no idea who he was and I had never met him in my life before.  He basically was an Aryan brother, and I'm certain he was  a gang member or hung around people in gangs. He looked and acted completely tweaked out of his brain. Apparently I heard from other people he went to every other rave after that looking for me. He tried messaging my Myspace under new accounts to try to find out what other raves I would be attending in the future. I wasn't completely sure about his mental state, so I stopped attending raves that don't check for weapons for a while.

To answer your question, approximately 10% of people were self-submissions. They can stay up, they're fine. 40% of people had their computer and email hacked to retrieve the photos and identification, the FBI identified him and his name was Mark something. The rest I believe were submitted by jilted lovers or other people who had access to the photo. Some apparently are not even the person's real photo, such as the teacher who had her head photoshopped on a pornographic photo and was stalked in her small home-town after.

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Why is he not in prison for making terrorist threats?




I don't know why he's not in prison for posting underaged pornography. Typically you get raided and go to prison for years just for having a few pictures in your computer. He's distributing them, and claims to re-launch everything from his previous site on his new site, which means he still has all the content.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G]
    #19182169 - 11/24/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I can't remember the last time I posted or even took a nude picture. It's not something I've done in years.





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broken said:actually it was about 8 months ago




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Oh yeah. But for obvious reasons, the face is blacked out so you can't tell who the person is.




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so the lack of a face means it's not a nude picture?




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In the context of this thread, it doesn't reveal the identity, so no it's not pertinent.





you said posting a nude is something you haven't done in years, but it's been less then a year, so you lied.
the context of the thread doesn't matter.
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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: broken]
    #19182216 - 11/24/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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you said posting a nude is something you haven't done in years, but it's been less then a year, so you lied.
the context of the thread doesn't matter.
a lie is a lie.




There is a clear difference between forgetting that you said something and outright lying. :facepalm: That's why i said,", oh yeah". Because I was REMEMBERING something.

What did I say in my original statement? "I can't remember the last time I posted nudes." I couldn't remember that incident, becaise I was only thinking of times I've taken nude selfies, not times I documented sexual experiences.


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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19182254 - 11/24/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why is he not in prison for making terrorist threats?



Criminal threat in California requires that the threat be to kill or physically harm a human being.  The first statement was about burning a building down, so it doesn't apply.

The second statement probably wouldn't work either because he doesn't specify a victim, and the law states that the threat must be "specific and unequivocal"

Also, criminal threat is usually charged as a misdemeanor which means county jail max and not prison.



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Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Revenge Porn Artist on the Internet [Re: Crystal G]
    #19182287 - 11/24/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Don't you post those pictures voluntarily? BTW, that is a good strategy against someone posting revenge porn... You already posted the porn yourself.




I can't remember the last time I posted or even took a nude picture. It's not something I've done in years.






Wrong. I remembered stumbling across this thread a few months ago:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18336278#18336278

Although I agree, revenge porn sounds pretty terrible.


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