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[U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled
#19180031 - 11/23/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can't find a news article but Erowid just sent out that 25i-NBOMe, 25b-NBOMe, and 25c-NBOMe were just placed in schedule 1 for 2 years using the DEA's emergency scheduling powers.
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On Nov 15, 2013, the DEA added 25I-, 25C-, and 25B-NBOMe to Schedule I using their emergency scheduling powers, making those NBOMe compounds "temporarily" in Schedule I for two years. It is nearly guaranteed that after two years, these will be permanently added to Schedule I. Having these three chemicals in Schedule I also makes the rest of the NBOMe series probable Controlled Substance Analogues when intended for human consumption. For these three compounds sales, possession, manufacture, and distribution are all crimes under US law.
In June 2013, Erowid was contacted by an individual saying they were being prosecuted under the Analogue Act for distribution of 25I-NBOMe (unconfirmed). In mid 2013, there was an ongoing federal case in the U.S. by the Department of Homeland Security attempting to prosecute 25I-NBOMe under the federal analog act. [erowid private correspondence with defendant]
An informal evaluation by Robert Block of Wisconsin's Controlled Substances Board in September 2011 stated that he believed 2C-I-NBOMe to qualify as an analog of 2C-I (a Schedule I controlled substance in Wisconsin). "I would like to first make clear that all statements made to your questions are 'MY' opinion and I am neither speaking on behalf of the Wisconsin Crime Laboratories or the Controlled Substances Board (I am the current Chair of CSB). [...] It is my opinion that 25I-NBOMe would qualify as an analog of 2C-I [...]." See drl.wi.gov/board_docview.asp?docid=247&boardid=12&locid=0.
One technical note about 25-*-NBOMe legal status: The primary (easiest) synthetic route for producing 25I-, 25C-, and 25B-NBOMe uses the related controlled substance (2C-I, 2C-C, and 2C-B, respectively) as the precursor chemical. It is likely that NBOMe-compounds sourced from lower-end sources might contain tiny, detectable amounts of a controlled substance. Depending on amount and legal venue, that trace amount could affect the legality of the whole batch.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci_nbome/2ci_nbome_law.shtml
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: bryguy27007]
#19180094 - 11/23/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can't decide if this might be good or not.....
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: bryguy27007]
#19180188 - 11/23/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: Simplepowa]
#19180233 - 11/23/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for posting that! Don't know how I was unaware of this.
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: bryguy27007]
#19180275 - 11/23/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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well atleast they were fairly shitty drugs anyway
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: i like cow poo]
#19180411 - 11/23/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ppppsshh
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: Caddilac]
#19180425 - 11/23/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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just great. thats exactly what we need, more banned substances. i dont think its going to effect people selling it as LSD though. but this has gotten pretty big in my city and people really enjoy it. most people know its 25x and not LSD but the people who have used it as LSD had no problems whatsoever and couldnt distinguish the difference. theres been no overdoses out of hundreds of experiences ive heard of, ive personally only met one person whos had any negative experience with it and it was some guy who wasnt prepared and just had a bad trip. not to mention it is still very safe compared to other substances including alcohol.
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: At My Peak] 2
#19180457 - 11/23/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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in before even more dangerous drugs replace it on the street
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: At My Peak]
#19180463 - 11/23/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So what? Serotonin is an analogue of Psilocin, you guys want to make our brain chemicals illegal? I bet most chemicals related to the inner workings of consciousness and pleasure are some analogue of some illegal drug. I'm just waiting for the day that everything is illegal and the government gives a white list for what is not. Maybe that's how far we have to go to realize the ridiculousness of this drug policy.
We have to legalize and regulate all foods, medications and psychoactives (if they are not already). Let people decide for themselves and help them with guidance by social workers and pharmacists. It's about time. Only then will drugs like 2C-I-NBOMe or whatever other random psychoactive chemical produce less harm to society as a whole.
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#19180623 - 11/23/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd be happy about this news if I thought for one second that it would get these drugs off the streets.
Fact of the matter is, the cat's out of the bag on this one. LSD is a drug which has a very large demand but very small supply. Because these substances mimic the effects of LSD and are rather easy to make/obtain, they will likely be floating around on the streets as LSD for the foreseeable future.
They will continue to cause deaths and health issues, under the guise that these are the effects of LSD itself (which we all know is untrue.)
It's really unfortunate, but I see these drugs essentially ruining the positive light that LSD once held!
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: Magick]
#19180634 - 11/23/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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10 years ago there were drugs I could pronounce, now I need to break my tongue just to utter some of their names.
You kids play with research chemicals, ill stick to my lovely mushroom, cactus, nitrous and DMT.
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: Fungi]
#19180651 - 11/23/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ban 25i
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: Fungi]
#19180680 - 11/23/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fungi said: 10 years ago there were drugs I could pronounce, now I need to break my tongue just to utter some of their names.
You kids play with research chemicals, ill stick to my lovely mushroom, cactus, nitrous and DMT.
oh ok anybody that uses LSD, DOC, DOM, etc is a kid?? Dude come on that's some ignorant shit
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: At My Peak]
#19180684 - 11/23/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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At My Peak said: most people know its 25x and not LSD but the people who have used it as LSD had no problems whatsoever and couldnt distinguish the difference.
How can people NOT tell the difference?? I'm not saying your lying but it's fucking obvious in so many ways!!!
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: At My Peak]
#19180719 - 11/23/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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At My Peak said: just great. thats exactly what we need, more banned substances. i dont think its going to effect people selling it as LSD though. but this has gotten pretty big in my city and people really enjoy it. most people know its 25x and not LSD but the people who have used it as LSD had no problems whatsoever and couldnt distinguish the difference. theres been no overdoses out of hundreds of experiences ive heard of, ive personally only met one person whos had any negative experience with it and it was some guy who wasnt prepared and just had a bad trip. not to mention it is still very safe compared to other substances including alcohol.
you seem to protect your favorite drug of choice ?:-)
personally I tried 25i, it was pretty bad for me, and only took about 600ug
vasoconstriction got pretty bad, but my health wasnt too good at the time
if I had taken 1-2 hits of those I would probably not be alive, since I got high BP/kidney problems etc. 600ug was almost too much, couldnt interact with reality at times very confused and head/feet/hands/arms hurt very bad whole trip and up to a week after+very dizzy whole trip iirc, and I have done over a 10 strip LSD before without problems (only minor leg cramps)
if I was healthy I would probably try 25i again if I couldnt find LSD... the benefit seems to be less mindfuck, which could be good for public tripping
and the price $0.5 per 8 hour trip, almost as good as LSD (just not much self reflection it seems) music is like on mushrooms/LSD on 25i, but body load is terrible...
either way, laws are not going to change my decision
I make my own laws based on personal moral :-)
Edited by lessismore (11/23/13 10:36 PM)
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: lessismore] 1
#19180832 - 11/23/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Honestly i am glad this shit is banned. Now it is far less likely to show up on blotter paper sold as LSD.
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: Jesus Cristo]
#19180863 - 11/23/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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These things have been around for decades, and only because of assholes blowing up the spot have they come to light. Nitrous is a kid's toy if anything is. The most shallow part of the abyss if you will.
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: baraka]
#19180873 - 11/23/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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baraka said: Honestly i am glad this shit is banned. Now it is far less likely to show up on blotter paper sold as LSD.
Says who? The ammount of starting materials you can use to come up with a DOX or 25X chemical are far more numerous and less red flagged on the whole than the chemicals used to make LSD. So they'll be just as common, just 10x more illegal.
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: baraka]
#19180877 - 11/23/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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no its not my drug of choice. ive only done it 3 times and i really didnt like it very much. ive tried legitimate LSD once also and i could tell the difference, but to the untrained eye as most people who are taking it thinking it is LSD are, we all know it can be very hard to distinguish. especially if someone has never used LSD before.
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Re: [U.S.] 25i, 25b, 25c-NBOMe Emergency Scheduled [Re: At My Peak]
#19180892 - 11/23/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yup very hard to tell apart for me too and I tripped 150 times on LSD
but Nbome has a nasty bodyload... just like DOx has a nasty one
LSD has no bodyload and no taste usually, and no numbing
Nbome has numbing
wouldnt do LSD without Ehrlich testing these days I think, unless I really knew my source
LSD is the best drug there is, 25i-nbome is maybe worth trying, weed is the worst drug there is IMO personally I liked DOx much better than 25i nbome, just very hard to find a trusted source with, and dangerous too (especially as I got it as LSD... and took 2-3 hits)
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