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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#19179284 - 11/23/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is bugging the shit out of me.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: Schmendrick]
#19179365 - 11/23/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Schmendrick said: Answer is C. The shapes are progressively rotating clockwise in a predictable pattern. C is the next logical step in the pattern.

That's what I came to also.
I hope we're wrong. Do you know the answer OP?
Yeah, being wrong is always more fun than being right; that's how you learn. I don't think we're wrong though.
That pattern works for the first four and then completely falls apart from what I can tell. And it only applies to the last column.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: HeyImShroomy]
#19179650 - 11/23/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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to mathematically solve it, you need to comsider the matrice a 3x3 matrice of polymomials, with the coefficients of hearts, diamonds, clubs, etc. then you solve for the roots of each polynomial to find the solution to any single matrice. After you solve the roots of all the matrices shown, you can see the pattern clearly that will lead to the answer for number 9.
This is called a ring of polynomial functions in a vector field. All the polynomials have to have solutions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_polynomial_functions
Now, if you got the right answer, you are either a super-genius if you didn't go through the math, or you guessed right.
If you have time to solve this knock yourself out.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: starfire_xes]
#19179673 - 11/23/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If i tried to guess it I would have said C or D also.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: starfire_xes]
#19179725 - 11/23/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: to mathematically solve it, you need to comsider the matrice a 3x3 matrice of polymomials, with the coefficients of hearts, diamonds, clubs, etc. then you solve for the roots of each polynomial to find the solution to any single matrice. After you solve the roots of all the matrices shown, you can see the pattern clearly that will lead to the answer for number 9.
This is called a ring of polynomial functions in a vector field. All the polynomials have to have solutions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_polynomial_functions
Now, if you got the right answer, you are either a super-genius if you didn't go through the math, or you guessed right.
If you have time to solve this knock yourself out. 
That's assuming the pattern is one of easily-explainable mathematics and not of randomness, specific traits of each grid, etc.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: starfire_xes]
#19179730 - 11/23/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The puzzle was mindfucking...
I think I should stick with doing these:
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: Patlal] 2
#19179749 - 11/23/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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a true genius would have skipped through the bullshit and would go fly a kite at the park instead.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: starfire_xes]
#19179822 - 11/23/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: to mathematically solve it, you need to comsider the matrice a 3x3 matrice of polymomials, with the coefficients of hearts, diamonds, clubs, etc. then you solve for the roots of each polynomial to find the solution to any single matrice. After you solve the roots of all the matrices shown, you can see the pattern clearly that will lead to the answer for number 9.
This is called a ring of polynomial functions in a vector field. All the polynomials have to have solutions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_polynomial_functions
Now, if you got the right answer, you are either a super-genius if you didn't go through the math, or you guessed right.
If you have time to solve this knock yourself out. 
You have maybe the most probable explanation in the entire thread. Sadly both your guesses are wrong.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: Patlal]
#19179869 - 11/23/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I saw these kinds of things a long time ago. I believe it was 4 sigma but I can't find it anymore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_IQ_society
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: abltsandwich]
#19179985 - 11/23/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Look at the pattern of the shapes and how they touch their neighbors. Some have three shapes touching no identical neighbor, some have two, and some have one. E.g., for the first box there's a diamond touching no other diamond = 1. In the second box all three clubs aren't touching other clubs = 3. In the third box you have a heart and a diamond not touching another like it = 2
132 is the first row now do the same for the next rows and you find out you need a box with only 1 shape not touching another like it. There are three ways to accomplish this diamonds hearts and clubs and two of them are already being used do the answer is A
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: abltsandwich]
#19180010 - 11/23/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice edit: Your theory failed. lol Very nice try though, it does eliminate a few possible answers though. I wouldn't have thought of that unless I spent hours on it.
Although I am sure it's part of the solution. Condition 1 type of thing. here are more things to decipher.
So were looking for an answer that equals 1 with shapes not touching each other
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: Patlal]
#19180037 - 11/23/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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No my theory works I had to figure out what part I forgot to apply from solving it earlier
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: Patlal]
#19180048 - 11/23/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=41645
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I don't know where this puzzle originally came from but it is not Raven. I have the Advanced Progressive Matrices Set I and Set II and that puzzle is not in there. All of the Raven items can be solved with a rule or combination of rules so that each part of the set belongs. There are no items where one part does not follow the same rule or rules as the other parts.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: KingKnowledge]
#19180107 - 11/23/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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KingKnowledge said:
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starfire_xes said: to mathematically solve it, you need to comsider the matrice a 3x3 matrice of polymomials, with the coefficients of hearts, diamonds, clubs, etc. then you solve for the roots of each polynomial to find the solution to any single matrice. After you solve the roots of all the matrices shown, you can see the pattern clearly that will lead to the answer for number 9.
This is called a ring of polynomial functions in a vector field. All the polynomials have to have solutions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_polynomial_functions
Now, if you got the right answer, you are either a super-genius if you didn't go through the math, or you guessed right.
If you have time to solve this knock yourself out. 
That's assuming the pattern is one of easily-explainable mathematics and not of randomness, specific traits of each grid, etc.
If it is random then you couldn't find an answer for the empty matrice in the sequence.
But it isn't random, if the probelm is solvable then it is a ring of polynomial functions in a vector field. The only caveat is that the system of equations has to have roots that satisfy all the matrices. If it doesn't, then it couldn't be solved.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#19180122 - 11/23/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Holy shit guys I'm up to something:
The last column of the 2nd box in the line = The middle column of the 3rd line if you assume that Dimonds turn into clubs, clubs turn into hearts and hearts turns to diamonds.
Diamonds --> Clubs
Clubs -----> Hearts
Hearts ----> Diamonds
Column 3 of box 2 = column 2 of box 3, if you apply the switch above
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: Patlal]
#19180146 - 11/23/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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SOLVED IT!!!!
Apply the same switch.
3rd column of the first square turns into the 2nd column of the 2nd square, which turns into the 1st column of the 3rd square.
So its always a 3 turn into the 2 turns into the 3, if you make the shift I mentioned earlier
Jesus fuck... that wasn't easy
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: Patlal]
#19180147 - 11/23/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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starfire_xes said: to mathematically solve it, you need to comsider the matrice a 3x3 matrice of polymomials, with the coefficients of hearts, diamonds, clubs, etc. then you solve for the roots of each polynomial to find the solution to any single matrice. After you solve the roots of all the matrices shown, you can see the pattern clearly that will lead to the answer for number 9.
This is called a ring of polynomial functions in a vector field. All the polynomials have to have solutions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_polynomial_functions
Now, if you got the right answer, you are either a super-genius if you didn't go through the math, or you guessed right.
If you have time to solve this knock yourself out. 
You have maybe the most probable explanation in the entire thread. Sadly both your guesses are wrong.
I know my guesses where wrong, I just said what I would have GUESSED. But to solve it do as I said--write out the systems of equations with the given coefficients, solve for the roots, and then analyze the sequence.
Each matrice will have three equations, with the general form
y(n)=a(x^2)+b(x)+c where y(1) = the first matrix, and y(n-1)=the matrice before the one you want to solve.
so for example, if the very first matrice is represented by diamonds == a, hearts=b, and clubs = c, then the set of equations is:
y(1)=[c(x^2)+c(x)+a a(x^2)+b(x)+c a)x^2)+b(x)+b]
solve the solution of the system of equations for each matrice y(1) to y(8) and you will be able to figure out y(9)....trust me.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: starfire_xes]
#19180149 - 11/23/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said:
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Patlal said:
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starfire_xes said: to mathematically solve it, you need to comsider the matrice a 3x3 matrice of polymomials, with the coefficients of hearts, diamonds, clubs, etc. then you solve for the roots of each polynomial to find the solution to any single matrice. After you solve the roots of all the matrices shown, you can see the pattern clearly that will lead to the answer for number 9.
This is called a ring of polynomial functions in a vector field. All the polynomials have to have solutions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_polynomial_functions
Now, if you got the right answer, you are either a super-genius if you didn't go through the math, or you guessed right.
If you have time to solve this knock yourself out. 
You have maybe the most probable explanation in the entire thread. Sadly both your guesses are wrong.
I know my guesses where wrong, I just said what I would have GUESSED. But to solve it do as I said--write out the systems of equations with the given coefficients, solve for the roots, and then analyze the sequence.
Each matrice will have three equations, with the general form
y(n)=a(x^2)+b(x)+c where y(1) = the first matrix, and y(n-1)=the matrice before the one you want to solve.
so for example, if the very first matrice is represented by diamonds == a, hearts=b, and clubs = c, then the set of equations is:
y(1)=[c(x^2)+c(x)+a a(x^2)+b(x)+c a)x^2)+b(x)+b]
solve the solution of the system of equations for each matrice y(1) to y(8) and you will be able to figure out y(9)....trust me. 
I just solved it.
No need for the complicated equations.
Its just a complicated mindfuck
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? [Re: zZZz]
#19180240 - 11/23/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: a true genius would have skipped through the bullshit and would go fly a kite at the park instead.
I think you're on to something.
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Re: Can you figure out this IQ question? (UPDATE: The answer is...) [Re: Patlal]
#19180310 - 11/23/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: It comes from an advanced IQ test for the advanced geniuses of advanced super intellect of the gifted called Raven's Progressive Matrices.

I will post the right answer when I have recieved a sufficient number of answers. Good luck
First of all, what is the answer and most importantly, how the fuck did you figure it out??????
Immediately I noticed that the top left and the top right are mirrored and reversed (upside-down), but then I noticed that the second row were not the same patterning style as the top row (left and right). So I have no idea anymore.
Edit: Woah never mind, it's actually not mirrored and reversed, when I took a second look at it, a few of the symbols were out of place.
I just read your answer Patlal and I have no idea what you are talking about. I looked at the first block or all three rows and didn't see them matching.
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