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H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts.
    #19179936 - 11/23/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just posting this to see if I can get any input. Over the past few weeks I have been spraying my casings with a 10-1; H2O-H2O2 mix. I had previously thought that this would be OK. I guessed wrong. I have had flush after flush of aborted to small fruits. At first I thought I might be misting to much, then I thought to little Fresh Air Exchange. So today I will cut out the H2O2 and see what happens. It would be nice to isolate the problem. I am doing an isolated strain of penis envy in casings in small aluminum bread tins. My FC is just a tub with lots of holes in all 6 sides and perlite for humidification. I fan at least 3 times a day if not more. 90-100% humidity. 70 degrees Fahrenheit.


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: joshfor20]
    #19179951 - 11/23/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah... H2O2 is only for cobweb mold. Stop spraying it on your grows.

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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: OgreLokon]
    #19179990 - 11/23/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

h202 shouldn't be sprayed on any myc unless it is contaminated with cobweb mold. also your aborts could be caused by bad genetics combined with the h202 so if you do still get alot of aborts then dont go back to spraying with h202.


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: silverstem]
    #19180080 - 11/23/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

h2o2 doesn't 'kill' cube mycelium but it damages it. Fully colonized substrates are very contaminate resistant. The thing is sitting in open air and you've likely touched it with your hands at some point h2o2 isn't going to save you especially since it degrades in light and is gone after a few minutes/hours.


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19180108 - 11/23/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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h2o2 doesn't 'kill' cube mycelium but it damages it. Fully colonized substrates are very contaminate resistant. The thing is sitting in open air and you've likely touched it with your hands at some point h2o2 isn't going to save you especially since it degrades in light and is gone after a few minutes/hours.


Contamination is not the issue here. the casings are just fine. My issue is small fruits due to being weakened by the H2O2.


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: joshfor20]
    #19180116 - 11/23/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yes and we are telling you when to use h202... put it back in ur medicine cabinet and bring it out only if you have cobweb mold. im not sure if h202 could cause aborts but its not smart to spray it because of the effects it has on myc.


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: joshfor20]
    #19180120 - 11/23/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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h2o2 doesn't 'kill' cube mycelium but it damages it. Fully colonized substrates are very contaminate resistant. The thing is sitting in open air and you've likely touched it with your hands at some point h2o2 isn't going to save you especially since it degrades in light and is gone after a few minutes/hours.


Contamination is not the issue here. the casings are just fine. My issue is small fruits due to being weakened by the H2O2.



yea I know I read it but why did you use it in the first place? just for fun, or because you thought it was preventing contamination?


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: silverstem]
    #19180133 - 11/23/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, for prevention. I was misinformed, so I posted this to see if anyone else had gone down the same road, or experienced this due to treatment of cobweb mold. I was just making an observation about the effects of H2O2 and sharing it with the forum.


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: joshfor20]
    #19180156 - 11/23/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yea peroxide is basically mushroom poison. It would be like us taking a shower in citric acid every day to prevent getting a cold.


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19180165 - 11/23/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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yea peroxide is basically mushroom poison. It would be like us taking a shower in citric acid every day to prevent getting a cold.



HAHA, I had a feeling it wasn't good, but im just not in the habit of getting online to do research.


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: joshfor20]
    #19180174 - 11/23/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it's alright. I had my own h2o2 problems when I just started out growing. I think my very first post was about it hah.

I hope your grow turns around.


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19180768 - 11/23/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was unhappy to see a few of my tubs doing poorly. Turns out I got my mist bottle containing H2O2 mixed up with my normal tap water mist bottle.  :foreheadslap:


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: root9]
    #19180819 - 11/23/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I was unhappy to see a few of my tubs doing poorly. Turns out I got my mist bottle containing H2O2 mixed up with my normal tap water mist bottle.  :foreheadslap:


When you stoped the H2O2 regiment did the tubs recover?


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: joshfor20]
    #19180849 - 11/23/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it will recover. ive seen it in post someone sprayed cobweb down with h202 and by the 2nd flush it fruited nicely.(cant find the thread) h202 evaporates quickly

so if your useing a monotub i would loosen the bottom polyfill a bit to increase FAE this will create more evaporation due to less humidity but that in turn would mean you have to mist and fan... now if your using a dialed in monotub you wouldnt regularly mist and fan. this should be done inbetween flushes so you dont mess up the micro enviroment you already produced for the mushy.

for a sgfc: I think your using one because you said casing and not many people case monotubs(i think frank the tc does) then i would continue misting and fanning twice a day.. due to the holes and perlite in that type of terrarium it requires misting and fanning.


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Re: H2O2 misting leads to small fruits with many aborts. [Re: silverstem]
    #19180859 - 11/23/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wutever the sub/chamber if you just harvested  cut back on the misting for a few days say to twice a day before dunking/replenishing moisture, it will give it time to recover


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