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Terry M
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Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics!
#19178093 - 11/23/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Win valuable prizes!
You see, I got this unmarked culture mailed from Zurich, Switzerland, and I don't know what edible it is or who sent it. I do a lot of culture trading, and this one must have escaped my records.
Here's what it looks like on agar after 8 days:


Any guesses?
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Terry M]
#19178840 - 11/23/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Beech was the first thing to pop into my head Terry. Probably totally off.
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Jeff]
#19179076 - 11/23/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hard to say. Maybe C. comatus, or morchella sp.? Curious to see what is turns out to be.
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Versicolor]
#19179138 - 11/23/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm going with pink oyster.
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Forrester]
#19179167 - 11/23/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What about the rings? And the slightly powdery surface? They've got me confused.
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Terry M]
#19179277 - 11/23/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have you thrown it under your scope yet?
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Jeff]
#19179446 - 11/23/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jeff said: Have you thrown it under your scope yet?
Nope. I don't think I'll see much from the bottom, and my binocular scope objective, even the lowest power, won't take me down low enough to focus the agar surface. When I try this, I crack about 5% of plates, even when I remind myself to turn the focus knob in only one direction!
I don't have a stereo microscope, which I'd really need to stay up high enough with the cover on (at lower power, of course). On my next next sterile lab day, I can make a spare plate which I can take the cover off of, thereby contaminating it, but allowing me to see the mycelium with my binocular microscope. Odds are, it will look like generic mycelium, but you never know!
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Terry M]
#19179649 - 11/23/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have broken so many dishes with my microscope. It can get a clear image if I push it as close as it gets. So frustrating.
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Terry M]
#19179705 - 11/23/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks wispy like Lepista nuda but those rings I've seen in several oyster species when the strain is pretty old or sectoring weirdly. I've got shaggymanes here right now and its quite different well the strain I have is anyway. so my bet / guess is an old king oyster or pearl oyster
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Zen Peddler]
#19179840 - 11/23/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So what's the plan? Spawn some grain to sawdust and see if you get any more clues or pins?
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Forrester]
#19179893 - 11/23/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My guess is Flammulina velutipes.
You should make this a contest terry- since dozens of competent mycologists have looked at this thread and no one seems to have a good idea.
I'm looking forward to receiving my wedge when you fruit out a wild cloned velvet shank.
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: laughingsol]
#19180078 - 11/23/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Isn't Lepista nuda myc reddish? I've never seen an oyster with that type of mycelium, but maybe it's some wild swiss strain that looks different. I would be interested to see what the powdery texture looks like under a microscope. I've seen microsclerotia on morel myc, but I doubt that's what you have.
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Versicolor]
#19180303 - 11/23/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, all the Lepista nuda I've grown develop a pinkish hue to the mycelium.
I guess I'll make some grain jars and then to sawdust bags. And I'll make it a contest -- with a prize!
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Terry M]
#19180373 - 11/23/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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According to Stamets Lepista nuda has white bluish mycelium. I'm currently working with 12 different isolates of Lepista nuda right now - mainly Australian strains isolated from multispore swipes of wild prints but some from Washington state and all of them are whitish grey tormentose and slightly aerial mycelia that turns a subtle blue purple when it covers the supplemented MEA. none are even close to red or pink (unless you call dark lilac pink) and the only supposed red mycelia of any Lepista species I've seen (nuda or saeva) was a guy on this forum and undoubtedly he was growing and sectoring a mold colony
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Zen Peddler]
#19180381 - 11/23/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lepista nuda is my interest species - I'm obsessed with it.
But back to your mystery culture - I'm going with pearl or king oyster. Seems a boring guess but those rings are familiar
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Zen Peddler]
#19180388 - 11/23/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've never grown or seen a velvet shank or their mutated white cultivated counterparts so that seems a good guess from above
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: laughingsol]
#19180644 - 11/23/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oooh fun! I'm guessing Enoki as well.
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Zen Peddler]
#19180669 - 11/23/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bluemeanie said: Lepista nuda is my interest species - I'm obsessed with it.
But back to your mystery culture - I'm going with pearl or king oyster. Seems a boring guess but those rings are familiar
Haha, not to get too OT but isn't clitocybe nuda the current name?
I'm never one to argue taxonomy, but... I like to poke sometimes
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Forrester]
#19180731 - 11/23/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes Clitocybe nuda is correct - I prefer Lepista myself - its hard to tell average people you're growing a clitocybe. Fantastic flavored mushrooms. The Aussie strains run faster than the rest.
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Re: Identify the Zurich Mystery Culture -- pics! [Re: Zen Peddler]
#19180744 - 11/23/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am going with Shaggy mane. I have a blewet that is quite blue colored mycelium.
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