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mthawkins
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How does my colonization look? Franks tek
#19178110 - 11/23/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How does my myc look? I've noticed yellow areas in some of the jars, as seen in picture, but not sure if it's just seeds. Also a black line as seen in picture. This is week two I believe. Used franks tek
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: mthawkins]
#19178120 - 11/23/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those need shaking ASAP IMO
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Skinty]
#19178150 - 11/23/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That one with the line (which is a thin uncolonized strip) might have a contam but the others look good. Could probably could finish in a week if you shook them today Just note the one with the uncolonized strip and keep an eye on it.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19178166 - 11/23/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How should I shake them? Rough till it's completely broke apart?
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: mthawkins]
#19178174 - 11/23/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bang em on a phone book until everything is busted up, then shake to evenly disperse the nock points. Don't form bad habits like me and start smacking them in the palm of your hand, broken glass in your palm sux
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19178274 - 11/23/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Don't form bad habits like me and start smacking them in the palm of your hand, broken glass in your palm sux 
Damn man do you have hands made of bricks? Firstly doesn't it hurt banging loads of jars against yr hands and secondly how are your hands hard enough to smash a solid jar 
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Skinty]
#19178295 - 11/23/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I'm 6'3" 220 lbs and pretty solid. Have a pretty high pain threshold too
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19178336 - 11/23/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Well I'm 6'3" 220 lbs and pretty solid. Have a pretty high pain threshold too 
I'm open to the idea that I might just be a bit of a pussy 
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Skinty]
#19178426 - 11/23/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've always just beat my jars against my hand. Never had an issue
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Skinty]
#19178438 - 11/23/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks good! I don't think you have any contams; not with myc that good looking. The yellow spots look like waste and that line is in the middle of healthy myc, which would is not be likely to have a contam in the center of growth.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: joshfor20]
#19178462 - 11/23/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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joshfor20 said: Looks good! I don't think you have any contams; not with myc that good looking. The yellow spots look like waste and that line is in the middle of healthy myc, which would is not be likely to have a contam in the center of growth.
How do you know that there isn't a thin ribbon of bacteria preventing it from colonizing? Not saying that's what it is, but in a situation like that I would mark the jar and keep an eye on it.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Stromrider]
#19178464 - 11/23/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: I've always just beat my jars against my hand. Never had an issue 
I had no idea the shroomery was packed with such badasses!
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Skinty]
#19178502 - 11/23/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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the most important things to you should be beat with your hands...wife....kids...penis....WBS jars ect...
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Skinty]
#19178509 - 11/23/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: I've always just beat my jars against my hand. Never had an issue 
I had no idea the shroomery was packed with such badasses! 
You know it! 
Actually I barely have to hit mine. They usually break up pretty easily
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Stromrider]
#19178524 - 11/23/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the input guys. I'll shake it up later tonight
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Stromrider]
#19178541 - 11/23/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: I've always just beat my jars against my hand. Never had an issue 
I had no idea the shroomery was packed with such badasses! 
You know it! 
Actually I barely have to hit mine. They usually break up pretty easily
In the light of overwhelming evidence to support the notion I remember previously posting that I think you guys out west have very different jars to what I have. This provides more compelling evidence.
Unless you are all like
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19178769 - 11/23/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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joshfor20 said: Looks good! I don't think you have any contams; not with myc that good looking. The yellow spots look like waste and that line is in the middle of healthy myc, which would is not be likely to have a contam in the center of growth.
How do you know that there isn't a thin ribbon of bacteria preventing it from colonizing? Not saying that's what it is, but in a situation like that I would mark the jar and keep an eye on it.
I totally agree, but in the pic it looks like the substrate is pushed against the jar preventing growth. shaking that jar will spread the contamination throughout if it is.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: mthawkins]
#19178805 - 11/23/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those jars look great, MT!
Shake em up!
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19179410 - 11/23/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alright, so I'm going to shake these bitches up till it's all broken up and spread around I assume.
Are small clumps ok or should it all be broken up
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: mthawkins]
#19179422 - 11/23/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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small clumps will be fine.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: joshfor20]
#19179439 - 11/23/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I ended up breaking it all up real finely so there's not even much white visible ( only some on seeds )
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: mthawkins]
#19179455 - 11/23/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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thats perfect. if not contaminated they should be 100% colonized in about a week. its amazing how quickly they recover and take over the whole jar...if not contaminated. its amazing.
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looks good so far m8
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: bourgasm]
#19185744 - 11/25/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's already taking off like crazy. One half of the jars are nearly fully colonized while the other half just needs to catch up
I'm doing g2g for my first time, so all I really need is one jar.. All three of the jars would be awesome xD
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: mthawkins]
#19185847 - 11/25/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I normally break my jars up on my hand. If it's difficult I'll bang em on the dirt outside. One time I didn't realize I was standing on concrete and well.. the jar broke up..
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: krypto2000]
#19185885 - 11/25/13 08:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I break my myc up by bouncing the jar off a tire or some type of rubber
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: wayneshy465]
#19186277 - 11/25/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah. I usually use my palm aswell but it is a bad habit. All glass has a fracture point where if you hit it its going to break and Ive read that over time of repeated pc'ing the glass can also become stressed or increasingly fragile. Dont know if true or not but fuck it. Had worse things happen to me than a little glass in my hand.
When shaking be a violent bastard lol. Small clumps although yes fine is still not ideal. Just lazy imo. The point of breaking it all up is to create as many points as possible for the mycellium to spread from. A small clump is less points than the half dozen or whatever individual kernels the clump is made of would provide if seperated.
I think i need to get a paint can shaker or something though cause right now im only doing a dozen jars at a time and still at the end my arm gets tired and palm starts getting inflamed. And Im about to double up again.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Valyr]
#19188824 - 11/25/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Will it be ok if the myc starts growing more on one half of the jar than the other to begin with
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: mthawkins]
#19189812 - 11/25/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah your fine . Mine usually do that too. I think all it is is that we get a few more grains on one side than the other on the shake. Its pretty much impossible to get a truly even spread on a shake.
All you need worry about in your jars really once there nocd up is contamination showing up and regulating your temps. Other than that just be patient, give it a good shake usually around 20-30% colonization, and everything will be fine .
I know that as a beginner we tend to stress a lot. Cause i go through it too but this hobby is really for the patient. And even if its not ok... What can ya do now ya know. Its in the hands of the shroom gods lol.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Valyr]
#19189946 - 11/26/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I break up my jars by beating them against one of my 25lb rubber dumbbells while I'm curling it so that I don't piss off the downstairs neighbors.
Glad to see your jars are doing well, MT. Are you going to use the extras for a mini mono?
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Psilicon]
#19190696 - 11/26/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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van der griegen said: Glad to see your jars are doing well, MT. Are you going to use the extras for a mini mono?
I was originally noccing up 7 jars at a time for monotub but both of my attempts failed because my seeds were too wet. I decided to use half my syringe and noc 3 for g2g hoping at least one would fully colonize.
I plan on taking these 3 and g2g 7-10 more jars per colonized grain.. so hopefully i should get around 30 if all 3 turn out well! One large tub per 10 does that sounds pretty accurate?
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Valyr]
#19190760 - 11/26/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Valyr said: Yeah. I usually use my palm aswell but it is a bad habit. All glass has a fracture point where if you hit it its going to break and Ive read that over time of repeated pc'ing the glass can also become stressed or increasingly fragile. Dont know if true or not but fuck it. Had worse things happen to me than a little glass in my hand.
When shaking be a violent bastard lol. Small clumps although yes fine is still not ideal. Just lazy imo. The point of breaking it all up is to create as many points as possible for the mycellium to spread from. A small clump is less points than the half dozen or whatever individual kernels the clump is made of would provide if seperated.
I think i need to get a paint can shaker or something though cause right now im only doing a dozen jars at a time and still at the end my arm gets tired and palm starts getting inflamed. And Im about to double up again.
Are you letting them consolidate for awhile before breaking them up? Mine can be a pita to break up if they've been consolidating for a week or so, but just after full colonization they'll fall right apart. Another idea if you want to do more than 12 jars is to switch to bags, they're certainly easy to breakup, though with the large bags I use you gotta be careful that they don't rip open when you're shaking them. I double seal mine, but I've had them tear open under the weight of the spawn before. Not the worst thing to happen if you're breaking them up to spawn anyway, but still not good.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: krypto2000]
#19191416 - 11/26/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I usually let em sit for a while after noc'ing before i shake. Try for around 20-30% colonization before shaking. Actually bags dawned on me last night aswell lol. There certainly cheap enough .
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Valyr]
#19191457 - 11/26/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh, I didn't realize you meant the initial shake. I've never had difficulty doing that really unless my jars are too full or perhaps if they're oversaturated w/water.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: krypto2000]
#19191507 - 11/26/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I do tend to fill my jars up a bit too much i think lol. Doesnt leave much room for a good shake. I also tend to use 6-7 quarts of spawn to a brick of coir too lol. I know its a bit overkill but figure why not. I got plenty and a higher spawn ratio means a faster colonization of bulk substrate which means less chance for contaminates right?
Yeah Im gonna try the bags after I use up what ive already got sterilized.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Valyr]
#19191567 - 11/26/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Valyr said: I also tend to use 6-7 quarts of spawn to a brick of coir too lol. I know its a bit overkill but figure why not.
That is close to a 1:2 ratio, pretty standard.
Most of us recommend 6 quarts of spawn to a brick of coir
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19192013 - 11/26/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it? Cool . Glad to know i was doing something right lol. Plus it gives me the substrate depth that I like in my tub 
I always thought 5qts was the standard for a brick. With the brick being approx 8qts when hydrated plus a couple quarts of verm being standard to most coir/verm recipes.
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: Valyr]
#19192068 - 11/26/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You'll find most experienced folks don't care much about exact ratios either
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Re: How does my colonization look? Franks tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19192115 - 11/26/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So now I've been failing at colonization for 3 months till now. Please tell me it gets easier from here lol. I'd hate to start all over again :x g2g to bulk
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