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OfflineSammysong
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Our minds are both material and spiritual
    #19177798 - 11/23/13 05:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sunshine lifts our mood while cloudy day lowers it. We have similar reflections to light or dark, warm or cold color; these reflections seem like sunflower's reflection to sun, water's reflection to temperature(changes softer as temperature goes higher); so our mind are material. On the other hand, If we pay attention, we can observe our emotional reflection; who is this watching guy? A spirit. So, our minds are both material and spiritual.

Make sense?


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Re: Our minds are both material and spiritual [Re: Sammysong]
    #19177806 - 11/23/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds good Sammy. Scientists and dictionaries on this forum may disagree and find problems with your wording and proof. But in all simplicity...and without data

I know what your talkin about :thumbup:


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Re: Our minds are both material and spiritual [Re: Sammysong]
    #19178249 - 11/23/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sammysong said:
Make sense?



Absolutely.

We are biological beings just like the plants and the flowers.  As such, we naturally bend toward the sustaining and away from the not-sustaining.

We naturally gravitate toward the useful.  If you behave in a natural, uncontrived manner, you will almost always do the right thing.

The trick is to surrender the impulse to "control" stuff.  A very hard thing to do.

But if you allow yourself to naturally gravitate towards the useful and away from the not-useful, you will win the jackpot.


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Re: Our minds are both material and spiritual [Re: all this beauty]
    #19178532 - 11/23/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the fact that you are conscious self aware, then it is not yourself fact
the awareness prevail in having to justify itself right in being really positive to everything else and existence reality as a whole

this is the idea of humility which is impossible, like to accept being zero for existence that has nothing to do with you while showing it constantly in the way you will be forced to stay still, which justify gods forces on everyone's awareness and justify also the will for everyone to revolt as it is not meant for always but only for a time where existence needed freedoms wills for reality grounds to be intelligent in truth


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Re: Our minds are both material and spiritual [Re: absols]
    #19178565 - 11/23/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Mind is by definition mental; the brain however is a material object (i.e. has a physical location and make-up).  You could say our brain reflects changes in our environment that seem to cause changes in our mental state, but as is I think your terminology doesn't seem to match the established definition of "material".


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Re: Our minds are both material and spiritual [Re: all this beauty]
    #19178770 - 11/23/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The trick is to surrender the impulse to "control" stuff.  A very hard thing to do.

The desire or attempt to control is natural and good enough imo. What hurts us to demand it.


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Re: Our minds are both material and spiritual [Re: Icelander]
    #19179129 - 11/23/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
The trick is to surrender the impulse to "control" stuff.  A very hard thing to do.

The desire or attempt to control is natural and good enough imo. What hurts us [is] to demand it.



I agree; all the human bits are "natural and good."  For me, it boils down to "useful" and "not useful."

I may feel a natural impulse to hurt you, but that's ultimately not useful to me.  I'm better off in the world having you as friend and ally rather than as enemy.

So it was when we were cave-neighbors and the mastodon was dragging my baby out of the cave in order to eat him for lunch, and I needed your help.

And so it is, today.

(If ya get my point.  :wink:)


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