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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19176588 - 11/22/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I would hate my life if I couldn't use technology to entertain myself.. I honestly couldn't live without it.


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: Chowder963]
    #19176589 - 11/22/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

People don't like you here more than they do in OTD.


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: Chowder963]
    #19176598 - 11/22/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah so let's just advance in technology and not use it for things people apparently want, because you don't like it, its all useless. Lets just use computers for work and storing data, and not even attempt to use it for anything else.. Get with the times dude, go live in a hole.



don't worry dawg they'll still mark pr0n for errbody on they iPads jafeel?  :goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19176612 - 11/22/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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"FUCK IT ALL" isn't condemning it? Correlating it with "an increasingly retarded culture" isn't judging the people who use these things?

I'm sure all you need is your grandpappy's copy of da good book, ain't that right?

:whatyougonnado:



apparently you aren't aware of hyperbole dawg.
:goodluckwiththat:




Suuuure, now it's hyperbole. Typical christian cop out, just say it was taken out of context and that I'll have to take that on faith.

You know what, that's it

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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19176613 - 11/22/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you understood dwarven mining techniques and gnome tinkering/engineering then you would have a real appreciation for periscopes, night vision goggles and cars.


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: LordSenate]
    #19176619 - 11/22/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I would hate my life if I couldn't use technology to entertain myself.. I honestly couldn't live without it.



dude, read that back to yourself. come on now :ifyoucanawe:

But I hear ya at the same time. I am a sucker for family guy on my big screen :lolsy:


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19176627 - 11/22/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think what he said is that far fetched unless you take it literally, which isn't the way he meant it, anyone can live without soda, when they say they couldn't live without it they don't mean it literally, they aren't dependent on soda, its a luxury most would not want to give up or even can't imagine not having it.


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19176646 - 11/22/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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"FUCK IT ALL" isn't condemning it? Correlating it with "an increasingly retarded culture" isn't judging the people who use these things?

I'm sure all you need is your grandpappy's copy of da good book, ain't that right?

:whatyougonnado:



apparently you aren't aware of hyperbole dawg.
:goodluckwiththat:




Suuuure, now it's hyperbole. Typical christian cop out, just say it was taken out of context and that I'll have to take that on faith.

You know what, that's it

:imafirinmahlazer:




you know what? fire yah lazer.


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: Adden]
    #19176652 - 11/22/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If you understood dwarven mining techniques and gnome tinkering/engineering then you would have a real appreciation for periscopes, night vision goggles and cars.



teach me these wizardly ways of the dwarves :Awemazing:


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19176672 - 11/22/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:lolsy:

Well done, brah.



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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19176746 - 11/22/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well at first I was saying I would hate my life but then I changed my mind to I couldn't live without it.

Seriously, no power/technology... Me = :suicide:


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19176767 - 11/22/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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All the weird useless fucking apps. All the stupid games and novelty bullshit and glittery shiny excrement. iPads and kindles and notepads and stylus and twittershpere and instagram and FUCK IT ALL. What a bunch of trash. Who the fuck can fork over hundreds of dollars for this tripe? Seems to me it's a reflection of our increasingly retarded culture, perhaps?

hashtag fuckwit :derp:




Video game consoles and consumer electronics in general are made as cheaply as possible and sold at a loss to the manufacturer. This is because the devices' real purpose is to sell you enough useless licensed crap to make a profit for the manufacturer while providing raw data for market research. It sounds ridiculous, but the ubiquity of these sleek shitbricks proves that it is a successful strategy. Built by Chinese slave labor to be burned for fuel in Chinese garbage fires.

These devices are also not designed to be in use for more than a year or so. This is because Moore's law applies to the shininess (and therefore attractiveness to the mob) of its applications. The more advanced the hardware, the greater its capacity to dazzle consumers into throwing their money away.

Consumer electronics is such a bust. I may be cynical because my dad is a software engineer who always worked from Unix- and Linux-based systems which are basically designed to be useful to the person using them. The same cannot be said for the crap laptop I'm typing on right now.


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19176826 - 11/22/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah.. that's not exactly how it works.

Consoles at least sell at a loss because they make money off the licensed games.

If consoles aren't designed to last more then a year, why do they usually come in cycles of 3-4 years?


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: LordSenate]
    #19176914 - 11/22/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah.. that's not exactly how it works.

Consoles at least sell at a loss because they make money off the licensed games.

If consoles aren't designed to last more then a year, why do they usually come in cycles of 3-4 years?




I was speaking non-specifically and actually referring to cell phones with the "no more than a year" comment.

In terms of consoles, I still suspect they are built to break, because then you have to send the thing in to get repaired at half the original cost to you and undoubtedly much less to manufacturer. I went through like three PS2's while it was still a big thing, and even though I hardly ever played it my PS3 broke as well. No poor treatment or anything or even overuse in the case of the PS3. They would just up and stop working. And they were designed to self-destruct further if you dared try to do your own repairs. The PS3 was very obviously intentionally engineered to be impossible to put back together again without foreknowledge and experience.

Of course, that might be paranoia; maybe Sony doesn't intentionally plan to make up their loss through refurbishments at the expense of the hardcore nerds who provide the most wear and tear (and profits on software) in the first place. Maybe I should give Sony the benefit of the doubt; maybe it's a perfectly innocent example of a high-profile luxury item being as cheaply manufactured as possible.

:shrug:


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19176921 - 11/22/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think it is any different than going to someone's house to visit them and you can't have a conversation because they are hypnotized by the TV.


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19176953 - 11/22/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't think it is any different than going to someone's house to visit them and you can't have a conversation because they are hypnotized by the TV.




Yeah, except now you can carry the fashionable ennui outside with you.

It's the wave of the future! :hotidea:


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19176954 - 11/22/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Have you ever had a console? Are you saying you have to pay for the repair? Because you don't if that's what you're saying..

I have had consoles since NES and never had to replace any except the original xbox 360, which I sent in and got repaired, for free.

Nah I doubt they are perfectly innocent. Some of the things you said are definitely true, using foreign labor to make them as inexpensive as possible and all that kinda stuff.

I was just saying it's not as bad as you made them sound, although you said you were talking about phones.

The PS4 was made so you can do some of the repairs, and swapping out hard drives without voiding the warranty. But in the same breath they had them made in China and one of the factories used college students for labor (didn't pay them either).. A few have come forward and admitted to sabotaging them..

So they definitely aren't completely innocent. :shrug:


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: LordSenate] * 1
    #19177016 - 11/22/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, my eighth birthday was the best day of my life because I got a Sega Genesis bundled with Sonic 2. I practically cried with joy.

I kept playing video games pretty much eight hours a day up through the PS2 days. I never had much brand loyalty; Sega was always my favorite with Nintendo second, but generally, I would eventually get my hands on every major console of every generation up to and including the previous, in spite of my unexpected but precipitous loss of interest in video games when they debuted, which was approximately the time I started going outside to smoke weed.

It was around when Sony entered the market that the hardware became conspicuously shoddy. I had several PS1's break on me. You can say that's because the PS1 belonged to the first generation of consoles to have moving parts as standard equipment, but my Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Nintendo Gamecube, and Xbox never broke. My 360 has a stuck CD tray, probably because Microsoft had to tighten its belt to remain competitive with Sony and its saturation of the market with lucrative junk.

I've played some damn good games, no doubt. I've always been in favor of recognizing video games as an art form, and continue to be. But the majority of my childhood was wasted glued to a screen having experiences fit to throw away, meant to be thrown away, of no use to anyone but shareholders. The new generation of consoles is primed to advance this proud tradition to the level of EULA enforcement by mandatory camera surveillance.


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19177079 - 11/23/13 12:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I guess it's a lot of dumb luck when it comes to consoles failing on you. I'm sure the production plays a part in that but a lot of times you will have someone like me, who has had little to no console failures. Then have someone on the opposite end of the spectrum that hasn't had one that didn't cause problems.

I don't really care if they do camera surveillance or not honestly. I would hope they wouldn't but it won't really make much of a difference to me. Of course I wouldn't be happy and probably wouldn't buy something that did that but if it happened it would make little difference to me.

Admittedly the moments where you say "wow, is this seriously a video game.." in absolute awe is less frequent then it has been in the past. But you still run into them enough to justify spending the time to see them.

I guess it really comes down to ones personal preference. I spend the majority of my life behind a screen in one way shape or form. I'm fine with that, at least for the time being. It is a blessing to me to have these things to do considering my disabilities and everything. It not only gives me enjoyment but interaction with other people albeit not as good as REAL social interaction, but still enough to get used to talking to other people before I push out into the world in real life further than I'm able right now.

I also don't think my experiences with these games over my entire life were fit to be thrown away, or meant to be thrown away even. People get nostalgia about them for a reason, it's not meant to be thrown away if you enjoyed it. It pales in comparison to social interaction but still. Of course they are made to make a profit, or please shareholders.. how would they continue to make more if they didn't? But most developers make the games not only to bring their idea to life, but also to bring their world as they imagined it to you to experience.

Laughing, crying, being afraid and all the other emotions you have while playing a game is reason enough to do it. But of course it should be used in moderation. I won't say particularly wasted your childhood stuck behind a screen, but I will say that kids now a'days do. Even though I think games are an incredible thing, I feel that the kids growing up now aren't developing properly because over exposure to them.


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Re: technology is becoming a bunch of frivolous shit [Re: LordSenate]
    #19177557 - 11/23/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

video games are toys.

toys to rob you of your childhood. glad i gave them up when i grew up... for years i stopped playing video games, at like 13 or something and got back into it like when i was maybe 16-17... the only thing i regret is selling my Genesis and SNES and games; but maybe it was a good thing in the long run.

now i have emulators anyways. game are always fun, and viable art form for various things in Game Design, Music, Art Design, Level Design (totally), Narrative Writing, and it's a platform, like film is now, for improving visual technology. (not to mention the increase in computing tech, but that's kinda individualized for games)

technically speaking, all those "little" skills get put to the test, and represent the game as a whole. that's a lot of work and imagination that goes into it, beyond just computing and programming.


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