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Weed has made me hate my family
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex] 11
#19175864 - 11/22/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Um, get a job now. Get a roommate or something.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex] 13
#19175867 - 11/22/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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? Get a job now and move. Live in a box on the street.
Stop smoking marijuana and "hating" your family.
If you "hate" your family, you have problems. Unless they beat you mentally or physically your entire life.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: LordSenate] 6
#19175941 - 11/22/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Get them high, maybe they will be more tolerable.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: LordSenate]
#19175946 - 11/22/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LordSenate said: If you "hate" your family, you have problems. Unless they beat you mentally or physically your entire life.
^ Yup
Have you ever thought about why they are the way they are OP? You didn't give us much background. They sound like they have their own problems they're dealing with. Maybe you should smoke a bit more and try a touch of empathy?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: MisterSandman]
#19175962 - 11/22/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I woke up this morning with a bruised hand from punching the wall
don't tell me about wishing death on family.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19175968 - 11/22/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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We all feel like that at some point but if you have somebody thats willing to stick by you I wouldn't be quick to hate them. Even if they got you where you need to be today to go off on your own, you have to give them credit for that. That couln't have been easy, and now you wish death on them, c'mon.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19175979 - 11/22/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I disagree. I think we all feel hate in our lives.. I don't think any normal person "hates" their family..
IMO people use the word hate too loosely.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: LordSenate] 1
#19176057 - 11/22/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I certainly don't wish my parents were dead on a daily basis, for being grumpy and unattractive wtf?
Stop blaming the weed.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19176097 - 11/22/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd say many of us on Shroomery hate our parents; especially if they are close-minded and I'm not an exception. Infact, today I got kratom and my parents threatened to call the cops on me thinking it's marijuana (even after the fact that I explained it was kratom for over an hour)
But... I don't think it's healthy to want your parents to die
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: SkeletalSpore] 1
#19176110 - 11/22/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Having differences or arguments, dislike..and whatever word you can describe it, sure.
Hate, really shouldn't be used to describe people you are related to by blood.
Hate is a VERY strong word. You hate a Nazi, you hate a rapist, you hate a pedophile... etc. etc.
If you hate your family, go get a counselor because you have issues.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19176120 - 11/22/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i love my folks, but they were very kind with me so yea..
were they bad parents to you op or what?..
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: zZZz]
#19176129 - 11/22/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also that last sentence in my post doesn't count if they are abusive in anyway.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: zZZz]
#19176137 - 11/22/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you can't wait for your mom to die because she's depressed? And you came to this conclusion because of weed...?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Konyap] 3
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You are an ungrateful little shit OP, regardless of their appearance, mental issues and disorders at the end of the day they put a roof over your head and feed you in other words a home. As far as I'm concerned there are only a few things that could truly make you hate your parents which could be but is not limited to: they physical beat you and neglect you of human rights or they abandon you during your childhood for their own selfish reasons.
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don't tell me about wishing death on family.
Poor wall 
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Most of our parents are fucked. As you get older and stop being 18 you will realize you have to accept them as fuckups, and hope they accept the fuckup you are. Family is about accepting each other as fuckups, and bonding over our similar fucked uppery.
Either way chances are you probably dont have it that bad and are being a drama queen. Unless your parents physically, sexually, or severely emotionally abused you, learn to forgive them, as many parents make lots of mistakes raising their children.
In fact there is a good chance if you have children, they will hate you as well at some point.
You sound very young and immature to say you daily wish your parents would die. Unless they have extremely physically harmed you, youre being overly emotional. With age you will come to terms with your emotions.
I'd even go so far as to say YOU are the bigger fuck up. Saying you wished your parents were dead? Maybe youre the failure and they want you dead?
TL;DR Weed killed my parents.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: LordSenate]
#19176176 - 11/22/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LordSenate said: Stop smoking marijuana and "hating" your family.
If you "hate" your family, you have problems. Unless they beat you mentally or physically your entire life.
Yeah it's a mistake to think that marijuana has a magic ability to revel the truth to you, IME it often helps you to believe a fiction of your own creation.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: psi]
#19176185 - 11/22/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mj is pretty legit if you know how to cancel all the bs, just sayin..
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: zZZz] 1
#19176199 - 11/22/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah.. not much wrong with smoking weed IMO.. Unless you HATE your parents over some fuckin insignificant shit.
I was just sayin to lay off the weed if you can't think straight, which seems to be the case in this scenario.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: psi] 1
#19176201 - 11/22/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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HOLD ON!!!!!!!! DO NOT BLAIM IT ON THE WEED! !!!!!!
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: zZZz]
#19176203 - 11/22/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh for sure, it's one of those things where you get out of it what you put into it. IME in chronic use it can be very tricky to keep things straight though.
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Where did I do that?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: psi]
#19176234 - 11/22/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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moved out when i was 18
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your supposed to hate your parents....if people liked them they would never move out
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I'll say it again. You "dislike" you're parents. "disagree" strongly would be even better. If you hate them you have serious issues you need to get taken care of.
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i meant to the original poster
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex] 4
#19176258 - 11/22/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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my bad i meant to the person who is putting there new found hate they had inside them. hatn her parent blaming it on the weed. blasphamy. lol
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19176506 - 11/22/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like you just got into an argument with them, if just a few bowls of weed made you go from normal to hating your parents an wanting them to die, I'd say you're not normal or able to handle weed properly, or just are really immature.
You live under their roof and you want your own parents to die because they don't live hygienic and you don't agree with how they live..? You are not mental stable to do drugs, yeah you can dislike your parents but smoking a bowl and wanting members of your family to die for these little reasons is really stupid. Go get a therapist and talk it out. You need help, your parents are most likely more normal than you.. Sorry to sound mean but just trying to give you a real perspective.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex] 1
#19176524 - 11/22/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should probably murder them in their sleep.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: nicechrisman]
#19176632 - 11/22/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dirty, dirty daddy
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19176789 - 11/22/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you didn't hate your family until you got stoned you don't really hate them. I started hating my parents when I was 4. As soon as I knew what hate was. People still living at home in their 20's don't know the kind of HATE I'm talking about. I'm talking about pissing on their graves fucking hate.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#19176886 - 11/22/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Weed should make you less hateful, more thoughtful and open minded. Try doing some mushrooms and see if you still hate them after.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 2
#19176898 - 11/22/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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OP, maybe you should chill and start looking more at yourself, less at other people?
Want to help your folks out, help them be less grumpy and feel more awesome every day? Give them some nice reasons to wake up in the morning and feel awesome about. Bring on the good vibes, bring the love, make some art to put on the wall, sing them something nice with your guitar, make something with your life don't just bitch and whine about it.
Nothing to put some smiles on parents' faces, like a happy kid that's functional, brings home a nice girl for dinner every now and then, and has shit going in his life, doesn't wait alone on the couch.
Sounds to me like if you don't have much more to think about than your parents, you simply don't have enough mojo in your life. Spend more time with your friends and girl if you have one, spend more time out there meeting new friends and girls or doing fun stuff, if you don't. Start any sort of small business on your own. If you have time to smoke weed and bitch, you have time to start something constructive and post it on Etsy and such. Move create be awesome 
What loser smokes weed at home, eating mom&dad's food under their roof, and then bitch and whine about them? Turn your life around OP, fill it with
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Spacerific]
#19176903 - 11/22/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree with the above post. It's full of fantastic ideas.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Spacerific]
#19176930 - 11/22/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can see why your upset OP but I don't think you actually hate them. In fact I think your just upset because their YOUR parents, you actually love them. That's why you care that they have these problems.
So you should do the best to make them happy, because happy people like to improve. Be the best you can be that's really all you can do.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: psi]
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I'm not a linguistics professor but when I say I hate my parents, I mean I HATE THEM. I literally despise my parents to the point where if they were reported dead tomorrow morning due to a car crash or something, my only response would be a giant grin.

My parents are the kind of people who can start up a heated argument filled with hate, anger, and tears over something as silly as whether or not my mom wants olives. They're not normal people, they are unable to properly communicate with one another without their emotions getting in the way. It's a wreck. And this has been the case since I was like 5 lol.
@Spacerific No way in HELL would I ever bring a girl home to my parents. I even hate inviting friends over. I am so embarrassed of my parents. They are dirty, disorganized, have stupid accents, can't properly pronounce words, express their emotions improperly, and are straight up DISGUSTING. I try to keep my house clean but my parents don't seem to give a shit. Walking inside my house and seeing socks lying in the living room, a screw driver on the kitchen table, a hard drive on the floor are all NORMAL things. It's RIDICULOUS. My dad sits down for dinner with a ripped shirt that has paint blotches....
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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Move. The. Fuck. Out.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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I can't figure out how to move out and live where I live but anyway
My family does horrible traumatizing things and then when I'm not like right next to them they play the pity card, it's so fucked up it's like I'm their slave that they get to give shit to whenever their friends aren't around.
You can't talk to them either even my counselor said some shit to them and my dad got offended not there but when he got home. My mom is also crazy she doesn't believe you can have people over or this and that after like 10pm any day of the week. My friend complains about his family but fucking people that aren't related live there and he's literally the only one that doesn't try to keep his bridges. I have to go under the bridge to make that kind of communication happen.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Konyap]
#19179325 - 11/23/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not even like loud or anything, you can't have this person here every week and it's like 3pm when we're on the way to work..
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Quote:
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Quote:
Alexestalex said: after smoking a few bowls and seeing things objectively
I think you're suffering from a fundamental misapprehension as to the nature of being on drugs.
This. Getting high is not "seeing things objectively".
You sound like a 15 year old high school drop out. Are you playing call of duty right now?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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At least your parents are still married and together under the same roof. I can't say the same of mine, mine split up when I was young, fucking moved 100+ miles away, goddamn traumatized me. We we too busy moving from shitty apartment to shitty apartment for me to have a childhood. On top of all that, they neglected my health AND my education.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Synthe] 3
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He's a grown man and complaining about his dad being a slob. His dad pays the fucking bills. What is he supposed to dress up for his freeloading son? Once you're grown and you still say I can't move out I can't respect that shit.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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Alexestalex said: Walking inside my house and seeing socks lying in the living room, a screw driver on the kitchen table, a hard drive on the floor are all NORMAL things.
Woopity fucking do, that all sounds pretty "normal" to me.
You need to calm down son and move out of your parents place.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 2
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Are your parents paying for your school? Do they buy your clothes? Do you drive their car? Whos paying the electricity bill? Who did the dishes at your house last night?
ya dude... your rents sound terrible...
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Zombi3]
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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alright dood, this is what you do,
when they're sound asleep spark a bowl and pump some thc through the vents. thank me in the morning.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Konyap]
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Teenage girls are supposed to live with their parents and bitch about their parents.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: zZZz]
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when they're sound asleep spark a bowl and pump some thc through the vents. thank me in the morning. 
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: LordSenate]
#19179858 - 11/23/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LordSenate said: ? Get a job now and move. Live in a box on the street.
Stop smoking marijuana and "hating" your family.
If you "hate" your family, you have problems. Unless they beat you mentally or physically your entire life.
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why would smoking make you realize these things? they seem like things that you would just notice by being around them.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: dontknow]
#19179881 - 11/23/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How old are you OP? Eventually you'll love your family despite their flaws. Unless of course they really deserve a reason to be hated (like they killed someone or ditched you throughout your life.) but older folks usually forgive their folks and love them regardless.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex] 4
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Alexestalex said: I'm not a linguistics professor but when I say I hate my parents, I mean I HATE THEM. I literally despise my parents to the point where if they were reported dead tomorrow morning due to a car crash or something, my only response would be a giant grin.

My parents are the kind of people who can start up a heated argument filled with hate, anger, and tears over something as silly as whether or not my mom wants olives. They're not normal people, they are unable to properly communicate with one another without their emotions getting in the way. It's a wreck. And this has been the case since I was like 5 lol.
@Spacerific No way in HELL would I ever bring a girl home to my parents. I even hate inviting friends over. I am so embarrassed of my parents. They are dirty, disorganized, have stupid accents, can't properly pronounce words, express their emotions improperly, and are straight up DISGUSTING. I try to keep my house clean but my parents don't seem to give a shit. Walking inside my house and seeing socks lying in the living room, a screw driver on the kitchen table, a hard drive on the floor are all NORMAL things. It's RIDICULOUS. My dad sits down for dinner with a ripped shirt that has paint blotches....
Let's get a bit organized here. I'm not saying parents can't be fuckups. They can. Mine weren't, at least not completely. Like no meth labs nor ass fucking nor prison were anywhere on the map in my family. I don't hunt prostitutes at night to cut out their eyes and eat them because they remind me of my mother or anything, so I can't just go ahead and boo hoo about omg my parents were horrible.
That being said, my dad is dead since 2006, and I don't miss him, nor will I likely miss him that much, ever, as he simply didn't provide a lot of the guidance that a parent should IMO provide. Failed at bonding in certain ways, whatever. I get it, that people, including parents, can sometimes not handle their shit right. I now plan to move away from my country because I feel the Christian traditions are all fucked here, mushroom-less idiotic boring clearheads everywhere. It's ALL fucked and useless, not just my parents. That still doesn't make it a good idea to bitch and whine about boo hoo I hate my surroundings.
What I am talking about here is you controlling your own space. Internal, external, etc. Whatever the fuck kind of parents you have (and MOST of them are fucked up in some way) there's never a good reason to keep on hating them, like as an active emotion you put energy into. Not giving a fuck about your parents, that's perfectly fine. If they failed they failed, joke's on them, they'll grow old alone and get less X-mas cards. But actively hating them puts YOU in a bad place, puts unnecessary stress on your system.
Are they slobs and you're a cleaning freak? Fucking move. Can't figure out how? Start dating a fat old loaded lady who craves your young flesh Get a new job flipping burgers at McDonald's or whatever. Start building iPhone apps or t-shirt designs out of your garage or something. Get yourself busy getting out, not busy whining and bitching about how bad it is there. Even if it's true, no good can come of it.
As I am writing this, it's almost a year since I moved the fuck back with my mother, back in the family house. It's fucking terrible. I mean I see myself working at 30% capacity and such. It sucks. But I made it suck. Not mom&dad, not the president, nor the media and our corporate masters. Me. If I were to bitch about anything, I should bitch about Spacerific, not mama Space 
Young men and women that pass a certain age thrive best if they move away from the family, to find a road and group of their own. To take charge of themselves and their space, and own it. For those who are still living at home instead of doing that, I don't think you should be blaming your parents. You're in a place you're not supposed to be in. You're a would-be butterfly that's bitching how the caterpillar body doesn't fit anymore and boo hoo it's so awful. Winter has come and you're bitching that it's not as warm as summer, boo hoo poor you.
Take the fucking bad vibes and frustration as a clue it's time to move out and move on, and focus on doing it.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19180430 - 11/23/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alexestalex said: My mom's a depressed, unstable, emotional wreck. My dad's an unhygienic GRUMP who looks 20 years older than his age. I thought my old folks were normal but after smoking a few bowls and seeing things objectively, they are simply FUCKED. How am I supposed to put up with these two fucks for the next 2+ years before I graduate University, get a job, and leave home?
Who else can't wait to completely cut contact with their parents the second they are financially independent? Who else can't wait for the day their parents die? Who else has been wishing on a daily basis that their parents die?
You are making a bad name for pot. Obviously this hatred comes from within yourself.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19180510 - 11/23/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hate my family too. I suggest moving out. I did it at 16 and it was the best decision for me. It was difficult, and I was without shelter temporarily, but still better than living at home.
However, the reasons you listed for hating your family seem to be a little stupid. I think you just need to chill, stop blaming the weed, and get a good night's sleep. You might find venting your frustrations is all you need.
Edit: I also want to add, that I have made great improvements in my relationship with my mother. We talk, but it is still strained at times. I recently lived with her temporarily, and it made me realize I made the right decision years ago. Then I moved out again.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Chairman Meow]
#19180537 - 11/23/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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or a cycle that further perpetuates itself
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19181642 - 11/24/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alexestalex said: I'm not a linguistics professor but when I say I hate my parents, I mean I HATE THEM. I literally despise my parents to the point where if they were reported dead tomorrow morning due to a car crash or something, my only response would be a giant grin.

My parents are the kind of people who can start up a heated argument filled with hate, anger, and tears over something as silly as whether or not my mom wants olives. They're not normal people, they are unable to properly communicate with one another without their emotions getting in the way. It's a wreck. And this has been the case since I was like 5 lol.
@Spacerific No way in HELL would I ever bring a girl home to my parents. I even hate inviting friends over. I am so embarrassed of my parents. They are dirty, disorganized, have stupid accents, can't properly pronounce words, express their emotions improperly, and are straight up DISGUSTING. I try to keep my house clean but my parents don't seem to give a shit. Walking inside my house and seeing socks lying in the living room, a screw driver on the kitchen table, a hard drive on the floor are all NORMAL things. It's RIDICULOUS. My dad sits down for dinner with a ripped shirt that has paint blotches....
Wow so you wish your parents were dead because they're house is dirty and they have accents, nice. You need to grow up dude, some people have parents who beat the and molest them, you just come off as sounding like an immature really pathetic person. You're living there for free or you pay rent?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19181652 - 11/24/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Weed has made me hate prohibition and question those meant to "serve and protect".
I didn't even read your post but I'd drop a few bills on the fact your family was so far fucked from the beginning.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19181658 - 11/24/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alexestalex said: My mom's a depressed, unstable, emotional wreck. My dad's an unhygienic GRUMP who looks 20 years older than his age. I thought my old folks were normal but after smoking a few bowls and seeing things objectively, they are simply FUCKED. How am I supposed to put up with these two fucks for the next 2+ years before I graduate University, get a job, and leave home?
Who else can't wait to completely cut contact with their parents the second they are financially independent? Who else can't wait for the day their parents die? Who else has been wishing on a daily basis that their parents die?
...never should have gone back and read your post.
OK kid here's the deal.
1) Your mother carried you around inside her for approx 9 months and risked her life bringing you here. 2) They wiped your ass for years while you were still trying to put random objects in your mouth than food. 3) They paid for your education via property and sales tax for all the useless things they've bought you over the years. 4) They've paid for your food for.. how long? 5) You're in college and living at home, what is wrong with you? 6) Did they never teach you to show any respect? Are you thankful for everything? Are you thankful for anything? 7) Best question of it all is how the fuck are they gonna put up with you for the next 2+ years after they have for, what, TWO DECADES of your inconsiderate selfish ass? 8) What's stopping you from working now and getting out? 9) Do you get pussy? If so, do you seriously bring it home to your parents house? Do you see these women ever again? 10) If you want them to die why not just go into drug induced psychosis and kill them; it'll solve all your problems; you'll graduate early, get free drugs, mad pussy and an inheritance.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19181665 - 11/24/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: You should probably murder them in their sleep.
You are like the OP, affected by reefer madness. Son, you need to get off the reefer before your whole life is destroyed.
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Alexestalex said: My mom's a depressed, unstable, emotional wreck. My dad's an unhygienic GRUMP who looks 20 years older than his age. I thought my old folks were normal but after smoking a few bowls and seeing things objectively, they are simply FUCKED. How am I supposed to put up with these two fucks for the next 2+ years before I graduate University, get a job, and leave home?
Who else can't wait to completely cut contact with their parents the second they are financially independent? Who else can't wait for the day their parents die? Who else has been wishing on a daily basis that their parents die?
You are suffering from what is scientifically called "Reefer Madness". This is a severe mental illness brought on by the smoking of reefer.
See the following video for more information on the terrible things marijuana causes like a hit and run accident, manslaughter, suicide, attempted rape, and madness.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19181682 - 11/24/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alexestalex said: I'm not a linguistics professor but when I say I hate my parents, I mean I HATE THEM. I literally despise my parents to the point where if they were reported dead tomorrow morning due to a car crash or something, my only response would be a giant grin.
Wow. Read that back and imagine it's about other people (not your parents) who exhibit the same sort of behavior. Would you wish anyone dead for stuff like this?:
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They are dirty, disorganized, have stupid accents, can't properly pronounce words, express their emotions improperly, and are straight up DISGUSTING.
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They're not normal people, they are unable to properly communicate with one another without their emotions getting in the way.
Those are completely normal human behaviors! The fact that you dislike their habits doesn't mean they have failed as individuals. In fact, the communication-with-emotions-getting-in-the-way thing: I bet you're extremely likely to exhibit that yourself too! But perhaps you're just too young to recognize to what extent you resemble your parents - because I assure you that you do.
Either way, I recommend, like just about everyone else has done, to move out of the house as quickly as possible and run your household in the way you want to do. Do it better (in your eyes) than your parents have done. With the added physical and emotional distance, perhaps you'll start seeing those less visible but essential things for which you should respect your parents. After all, they put up with you for about two decades, and placed their interests behind yours so you could grow up and prosper. Think I'm talking nonsense? Then read this back 20 years down the line when you (probably) have kids of your own.
TL;DR: you're growing up, 'slightly' naive and in the process of becoming independent. Weed isn't responsible for what you experience; human nature and your character are.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: koraks]
#19181824 - 11/24/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Op obviously has mental disorders.. I feel bad for him more than his parents.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Chowder963]
#19181848 - 11/24/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If he's in school, he should see about speaking to a school psychologist. The reasons he listed for hating his family just makes it seem like he has anger issues in general.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19181860 - 11/24/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sorry OP but you sound like a little bitch. you'd be happy if they died tomorrow, really? WHO WOULD TAKE CARE OF YOU? you live at home and don't have a job...besides how morally wrong what you said is, let's look at the basics. they buy you food and give you shelter. if they died who would take care of you?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19181957 - 11/24/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alexestalex said: My mom's a depressed, unstable, emotional wreck. My dad's an unhygienic GRUMP who looks 20 years older than his age. I thought my old folks were normal but after smoking a few bowls and seeing things objectively, they are simply FUCKED. How am I supposed to put up with these two fucks for the next 2+ years before I graduate University, get a job, and leave home?
Who else can't wait to completely cut contact with their parents the second they are financially independent? Who else can't wait for the day their parents die? Who else has been wishing on a daily basis that their parents die?
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Alexestalex said: My mom's a depressed, unstable, emotional wreck. My dad's an unhygienic GRUMP who looks 20 years older than his age. I thought my old folks were normal but after smoking a few bowls and seeing things objectively, they are simply FUCKED. How am I supposed to put up with these two fucks for the next 2+ years before I graduate University, get a job, and leave home?
Who else can't wait to completely cut contact with their parents the second they are financially independent? Who else can't wait for the day their parents die? Who else has been wishing on a daily basis that their parents die?
i cant fucking wait, its hazardous to my own health. i got 4 years to go tho
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Adden]
#19182058 - 11/24/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alexestalex said: My mom's a depressed, unstable, emotional wreck. My dad's an unhygienic GRUMP who looks 20 years older than his age. I thought my old folks were normal but after smoking a few bowls and seeing things objectively, they are simply FUCKED. How am I supposed to put up with these two fucks for the next 2+ years before I graduate University, get a job, and leave home?
Who else can't wait to completely cut contact with their parents the second they are financially independent? Who else can't wait for the day their parents die? Who else has been wishing on a daily basis that their parents die?
...never should have gone back and read your post.
OK kid here's the deal.
1) Your mother carried you around inside her for approx 9 months and risked her life bringing you here. 2) They wiped your ass for years while you were still trying to put random objects in your mouth than food. 3) They paid for your education via property and sales tax for all the useless things they've bought you over the years. 4) They've paid for your food for.. how long? 5) You're in college and living at home, what is wrong with you? 6) Did they never teach you to show any respect? Are you thankful for everything? Are you thankful for anything? 7) Best question of it all is how the fuck are they gonna put up with you for the next 2+ years after they have for, what, TWO DECADES of your inconsiderate selfish ass? 8) What's stopping you from working now and getting out? 9) Do you get pussy? If so, do you seriously bring it home to your parents house? Do you see these women ever again? 10) If you want them to die why not just go into drug induced psychosis and kill them; it'll solve all your problems; you'll graduate early, get free drugs, mad pussy and an inheritance.
You do realize that having a child isn't a selfless act, right? I'd say the vast majority of parents end up having a child either due to an accident, a desire to experience the "joys" of rearing a child, or because the relationship is falling apart and (generally) the mother wishes to secure it by having a baby. I've asked my mother why she decided to give me birth and her response was that she wanted to enjoy motherhood. That is completely selfish. She's not doing me any favors, she just wanted to feel what it's like to have a baby in the tummy, to see it walk and talk, and so forth. I feel like a giant toy almost.
When my parents feed me and provide me with shelter, they aren't doing me any fucking favors. Do you people not realize that? You aren't a "good" person because you feed, clothe, and shelter your infant. That is YOUR responsibility and all you are doing is fulfilling it. If you don't even manage to fulfill that, then you're a piece of scum who deserves to be eaten alive by wild dogs.
And no, to be honest I've never felt "thankful." I believe that is a really defeatist and unhealthy mentality to have and it's one that I hear all the time. "OH JIMMY BE THANKFUL THAT YOU YOU'RE NOT A 1 legged blind man living in poverty in africa derp." No! If you're going to bring a child into this world, which in and of itself is a touchy topic because you're FORCING existence on said individual, you better damn make sure that emotional instability, hunger, and so forth aren't present in the family.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19182076 - 11/24/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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But you are now an adult and they're still providing you with a place to live even though they are no longer required to, correct?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: psi]
#19182101 - 11/24/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The OP is either a troll or a deeply disturbed individual who needs some serious help.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Chowder963]
#19182112 - 11/24/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Chowder963 said: Op obviously has mental disorders.. I feel bad for him more than his parents.
i dont think the OP is disturbed, if your parents are dicks fuck them, shit ill write a song about cuttin there head off, does it mean i mean it? in a metaphorical way
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Hudson]
#19182118 - 11/24/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hudson said: You are an ungrateful little shit OP, regardless of their appearance, mental issues and disorders at the end of the day they put a roof over your head and feed you in other words a home. As far as I'm concerned there are only a few things that could truly make you hate your parents which could be but is not limited to: they physical beat you and neglect you of human rights or they abandon you during your childhood for their own selfish reasons.
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don't tell me about wishing death on family.
Poor wall 
or maybe they lower his self-esteem, call hima fuckin retard n shit. thats all anyone needs
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Endure]
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Chowder963 said: Op obviously has mental disorders.. I feel bad for him more than his parents.
i dont think the OP is disturbed, if your parents are dicks fuck them, shit ill write a song about cuttin there head off, does it mean i mean it? in a metaphorical way
No, he's disturbed because he resents and wishes death upon his own parents for petty reasons.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex] 3
#19182226 - 11/24/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alexestalex said: You do realize that having a child isn't a selfless act, right?
Perhaps making the decision to have one not, but to nurture one into adulthood is definitely not something that is associated with just benefits for the parents, to put it mildly. For one thing, many (most) kids are for years the sort of self-absorbed, egocentric bastards like yourself with no clue whatsoever what their upbringing has cost their parents emotionally and financially.
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She's not doing me any favors
She has done you the favor of bringing you up to the point that you can enjoy the liberty to use the internet to prove to the world that you are either ridiculously immature (or just underage, given the registration requirements on this website) or that you're a completely egotistical bastard who seeks the source of any misfortune he encounters outside himself, thereby completely ignoring how he contributed himself to the mess he finds himself in.
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And no, to be honest I've never felt "thankful." I believe that is a really defeatist and unhealthy mentality to have and it's one that I hear all the time.
Interesting analysis. Since you're so good at using your brain, try to figure out how humans are a social species and what sort of emotions it takes to make that simple fact of life work on a massive scale. Then ponder a bit on how you (fail to) fit in that. It'll be interesting to see what you come up with.
I sincerely hope, both for yourself and for your next of kin, that you'll go through a severe emotional crisis soon and that you'll emerge from it a slightly wiser person. It may sound like I'm trolling now, but I am not; I'm saying this in all seriousness.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: LordSenate]
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this fucking guy.
thats hilarious.
you think there are really only those 2 reasons to hate your family?
the world isnt that black and white.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: k00laid]
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There's tons of reasons that one might have to hate their family, but I think the 2 most accepted/understandable reasons are abuse and neglect.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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Alexestalex said: My parents are the kind of people who can start up a heated argument filled with hate, anger, and tears over something as silly as whether or not my mom wants olives. They're not normal people, they are unable to properly communicate with one another without their emotions getting in the way. It's a wreck. And this has been the case since I was like 5 lol.
They are dirty, disorganized, have stupid accents, can't properly pronounce words, express their emotions improperly, and are straight up DISGUSTING. I try to keep my house clean but my parents don't seem to give a shit. Walking inside my house and seeing socks lying in the living room, a screw driver on the kitchen table, a hard drive on the floor are all NORMAL things. It's RIDICULOUS. My dad sits down for dinner with a ripped shirt that has paint blotches....
the first paragraph seems to have been typed by a rational person.
the second was typed by a very irrational person.
you hate your dad because he leaves his socks on the dinner table and doesnt wear a clean shirt to dinner?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Chairman Meow] 1
#19182457 - 11/24/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sadsappysucker said: There's tons of reasons that one might have to hate their family, but I think the 2 most accepted/understandable reasons are abuse and neglect.
yup, for example, if my mom were to die, i would feel better. she made my entire life hell, n i mean that. people dont understand, when you see your mom hit your dad in the face with a chair when he is sleepin at age 11, (my type of environment) it does shit to you. my mom also had my rott reilers put to sleep that i grew up with when i was 13 to get back at my dad, i was there when they were leavin n i knew exactly what was happening, i was cryin my eyes out n she didnt do nothin to stop it, she was happy. in other words, my mom is a murderer. i wish her dead, thats my 2 sense. thats only 1/10 of the things she has done to me. am i selfish for that?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Endure]
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it sounds like she did them to your dad, not you, and you just got caught in the crossfire
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Endure]
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: dontknow]
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dontknow said: it sounds like she did them to your dad, not you, and you just got caught in the crossfire
im not really sure how to respond to that retarded ass response so i shouldnt hate her? Lol okay
if she is hitting her husband with a fuckin chair with her child present, shes aware, that is CHILD ABUSE.
if you take away a childs best friends, n you kill him to get back at your boyfriend, that is also child Abuse, she knew was she was doing. she knew i loved those dogs... i had them since i was 4-5.
what is a crossfire? crossfire are shots that hit you because the person involved is selfish fuckin prick, n is choosing to not be aware of other peoples feelings, like her 12 year olds
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: k00laid]
#19182521 - 11/24/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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One needs to be careful of whom one takes advice...
Yuo now realize those who used to be close to you arent perfect either. This is a good thing, for now you, as the one in a position of clarity may help them further...
How does one do this one might say? When most people open their eyes and see how things really are, they respond with negativity. People tend to forget that constructive critizism is also critizism..
I would recommend for the optimal result, you will encurage the positive behaviour and tend to not comment the negative, but still acknowledge it. When around these people, you will think positive things and try to keep an apditude of self improvement and happiness... and with alot of patience things will sort themselves out
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Icyus]
#19182629 - 11/24/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Weed made me realize how fucked my whole family is and how they've been confusing the fuck out of me for forever. Just get away from them and don't go back. Jizz ur own people into existence.
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Endure mate, your mom sure sounds like a cunt, which is a shame. Unfortunately most (all?) women have an immense potential for being a cunt, if they fall into some bad patterns. Drinking, using, dating fuckup guys and settling long term for shit relationships with deadbeat inconsiderate losers. Then everything turns to shit and before you know it, you have kids growing up in fucked up environments.
Goes without saying that if one's mom is a complete cunt, she should be deserted dumped and ignored to her own devices, and left to fend for herself in old age, turning into a crazy cat lady. This can be viewed for sadistic entertainment and amusement purposes later.
That still doesn't mean it's OK to bitch and whine about her WHILE living under her roof and eating her food. Move out, then you can make a whole movie about how big of an abusive cunt she was, for all the world to see, but as long as she's paying your bills and putting food on your table, it's not your place to whine about character flaws. You have far more pressing matters to deal with, like getting the fuck out.
Oh fun fact, I don't hate my dad or anything, I kind of used to, now I'm rather indifferent and glad he's gone. Every so often I visit his grave and find pretty decent comfort in him being gone, me not missing him one bit, because IMO there wasn't that much to miss. He fucked up a few major things during my childhood, like repeating his trademark line, "You don't know anything." Massive failure in being a guide and mentor right there. I lost respect for him even then, at age 5 or 6, and I continued to lose respect later, as I learned the importance of positive relationships between people.
For a long time I feared that I already internalized some really bad habits from living under his influence and I will turn into his kind of an a-hole, but now I know that the psychedelics are definitely there to help, overwriting more and more of that with each trip, teaching me more loving ways and pretty much erasing his records out of existence. Most of his legacy as a superstitious Christian simpleton will die with him, as I concern myself with other cultures, plants and practices he would have been highly intolerant of.
Good riddance dad, it's great to breathe the air on this planet with no fear of ever hearing your ignorant shit again
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Spacerific]
#19184212 - 11/24/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spacerific said: Endure mate, your mom sure sounds like a cunt, which is a shame. Unfortunately most (all?) women have an immense potential for being a cunt, if they fall into some bad patterns. Drinking, using, dating fuckup guys and settling long term for shit relationships with deadbeat inconsiderate losers. Then everything turns to shit and before you know it, you have kids growing up in fucked up environments.
Goes without saying that if one's mom is a complete cunt, she should be deserted dumped and ignored to her own devices, and left to fend for herself in old age, turning into a crazy cat lady. This can be viewed for sadistic entertainment and amusement purposes later.
That still doesn't mean it's OK to bitch and whine about her WHILE living under her roof and eating her food. Move out, then you can make a whole movie about how big of an abusive cunt she was, for all the world to see, but as long as she's paying your bills and putting food on your table, it's not your place to whine about character flaws. You have far more pressing matters to deal with, like getting the fuck out.
Oh fun fact, I don't hate my dad or anything, I kind of used to, now I'm rather indifferent and glad he's gone. Every so often I visit his grave and find pretty decent comfort in him being gone, me not missing him one bit, because IMO there wasn't that much to miss. He fucked up a few major things during my childhood, like repeating his trademark line, "You don't know anything." Massive failure in being a guide and mentor right there. I lost respect for him even then, at age 5 or 6, and I continued to lose respect later, as I learned the importance of positive relationships between people.
For a long time I feared that I already internalized some really bad habits from living under his influence and I will turn into his kind of an a-hole, but now I know that the psychedelics are definitely there to help, overwriting more and more of that with each trip, teaching me more loving ways and pretty much erasing his records out of existence. Most of his legacy as a superstitious Christian simpleton will die with him, as I concern myself with other cultures, plants and practices he would have been highly intolerant of.
Good riddance dad, it's great to breathe the air on this planet with no fear of ever hearing your ignorant shit again 
i dont live with her
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: EdibleStereos]
#19184522 - 11/24/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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EdibleStereos said: Most of our parents are fucked. As you get older and stop being 18 you will realize you have to accept them as fuckups, and hope they accept the fuckup you are. Family is about accepting each other as fuckups, and bonding over our similar fucked uppery.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: broken]
#19184553 - 11/24/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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not true. i have good friends who dont fuck up there are just some lines you do not cross
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Endure]
#19184622 - 11/24/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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just because they don't tell you about it, doesn't mean they don't fuck up, everybody fucks up.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: broken]
#19184648 - 11/24/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well i bet you a dollar that weed helped you realize your feelings for your family. I don't think it alone has the power to plant a seed of hate, maybe just germinate it
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex] 2
#19184673 - 11/24/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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When my parents feed me and provide me with shelter, they aren't doing me any fucking favors. Do you people not realize that? You aren't a "good" person because you feed, clothe, and shelter your infant. That is YOUR responsibility and all you are doing is fulfilling it. If you don't even manage to fulfill that, then you're a piece of scum who deserves to be eaten alive by wild dogs.
And no, to be honest I've never felt "thankful." I believe that is a really defeatist and unhealthy mentality to have and it's one that I hear all the time. "OH JIMMY BE THANKFUL THAT YOU YOU'RE NOT A 1 legged blind man living in poverty in africa derp." No! If you're going to bring a child into this world, which in and of itself is a touchy topic because you're FORCING existence on said individual, you better damn make sure that emotional instability, hunger, and so forth aren't present in the family.
This is obviously an underaged kid mad at his parents.. The infant thing doesnt make sense but you know what he meant. Even before he said that I thought it was painfully obvious..
Anyone who wasnt beaten/molested and maybe in some cases SEVERELY neglected that agrees with this guy needs to grow up and have a more realistic view on things. Thats seriously warped thinking.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Endure]
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i dont live with her
Then why do you even care? You like your dad hate your mom, or why do you even visit that home once you're out of it?
When I first moved out (also changed cities at one point, moved away for 3-4 years, geographical distance is   ) all the shit got left behind. I'm surprised you're still holding on to yours somehow even after moving out.
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Spacerific said: Unfortunately most (all?) women have an immense potential for being a cunt, if they fall into some bad patterns.
Wouldn't you say that's true for men as well? Or is it still fashionable to be sexist in your social circles?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: koraks]
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Spacerific said: Unfortunately most (all?) women have an immense potential for being a cunt, if they fall into some bad patterns.
Wouldn't you say that's true for men as well? Or is it still fashionable to be sexist in your social circles?
Of course it is true, probably even more so, because we don't have that oxytocin flood after pregnancy 
I mentioned women as the man mentioned his mom, that was the topic, not that women are more likely to become neglectful and abusive.
I do think it's worth pointing this stuff out, that it can and does happen. When I was growing up both my parents considered this stuff taboo to even talk about. Like being a parent somehow prevented a person from being irresponsible or something, like all kids should respect their parents all of the time, which IMO is obviously bullshit.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19188014 - 11/25/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jesus fuck you sound like one inconsiderate shit of a son.
If you can't wait to get out man the fuck up, get a job and leave. You're parents probably don't like you either.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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Alexestalex said: My mom's a depressed, unstable, emotional wreck. My dad's an unhygienic GRUMP who looks 20 years older than his age. I thought my old folks were normal but after smoking a few bowls and seeing things objectively, they are simply FUCKED. How am I supposed to put up with these two fucks for the next 2+ years before I graduate University, get a job, and leave home?
Who else can't wait to completely cut contact with their parents the second they are financially independent? Who else can't wait for the day their parents die? Who else has been wishing on a daily basis that their parents die?
You could gtfo of their house, I'd kick your sorry ass out of you were my kid
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Spacerific]
#19188850 - 11/25/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i dont live with her
Then why do you even care? You like your dad hate your mom, or why do you even visit that home once you're out of it?
When I first moved out (also changed cities at one point, moved away for 3-4 years, geographical distance is   ) all the shit got left behind. I'm surprised you're still holding on to yours somehow even after moving out.
i have to deal with her at family functions and such cause i have alot of cousins i hang with n brothers/sisters aunts/uncles who are sane
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Endure] 1
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Well then sucks for you mate, hope things improve soon, or you find the wisdom to accept them better 
To all the people saying OP is a shit son and all that, I'm not going to comment on that, but I will say he grew up in his parents' house. IF he's a shit son, that does speak to them being shit parents, at least to some extent. All the more reason for OP to move out asap, if they seem to be a negative influence.
I know for sure I have picked up a few bad habits from my parents, and didn't pick up good habits that are harder to start now as an adult. This is not me bitching, because they didn't do as bad of a job as I once thought, I'm just saying some parents are awesome responsible functional adults, and others are at least a bit wobbly on some topics 
In a way I'm glad this family and city and country are so incredibly boring, otherwise I never would have ventured out into the unknown, finding art and psychedelics, nor would I be working at all to relocate to somewhere awesome.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Spacerific]
#19190152 - 11/26/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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he probably has a shitty paying job if he isnt out already
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Endure]
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Endure said: he probably has a shitty paying job if he isnt out already
or no job at all? 
I totally get how one can get into these negative bitching-about-others kind of thinking, especially when everything seems dark and hopeless. I've been there a lot myself, back in the day. Usually takes a few years before one notices these thoughts aren't going anywhere good, not fixing the problem, not leading to an awesome life.
I have my hopes up that OP will in fact find much better insights in subsequent trips and smoking sessions. We all have to start somewhere.
I found great help in listening to massive amounts of self-improvement audiobooks. We have the internet, there are ways now to surround oneself with the greatest minds that ever lived, benefit from great thinking and awesome influence. High level questions and expectations. Thanks to the wonder of mp3 players one doesn't even have to bother reading text, it's extremely lazy-friendly way of getting information, but there is that small matter of actually Googling, downloading, filling a player and pressing play.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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You should move out. If you hate them so much then the best revenge is to succeed on your own.
I moved out at 16 and it was a good decision.
However the things you are bitching about with your parents.. are normal things and other people would consider themselves lucky to be in your position.
But if you hate them so much then fucking move out
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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the OP is pretty clear, and since a couple days ago upon reading it the first time... it seems to have gotten past the point of the OP; or maybe not, i didn't read the whole thread.
OP, you say it in your post... the most important thing... your parents are fucked. fucked up, bad. either put up with it, or get out if their mere fuckedupedness fucks with you so much.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Spacerific]
#19625109 - 02/27/14 08:35 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I wanted to update this topic. I am very embarrassed for making such a post and saying I'm sociopathic is certainly an understatement. Truth is, I'm not a bad person, this "hate" I felt was merely in my heart, I didn't display any of it to my parents. I've just been suffering from a bout of depression for the past 3-4 years. I'm not suicidal, I just need a change in perspective. I'm going to try and visit a psychologist, its just difficult to convince my parents because they view that as the ultimate act of giving up. They also have this bias where depressed people who get help always end up being prescribed powerful antidepressants that numb their brains and make them addicts. Maybe they're right.
Anyway, I have not smoked pot in months and most of my self loathing and hate has disappeared. Marijuana certainly had a negative impact on my attitude and it would sort of lock my emotions. If my parents made me angry, the anger would stick for longer. Little things became far more bothersome too and I felt lethargic for days after I would smoke. Obviously pot effects people differently, I know some who derive great therapeutic benefits from it and more power to them, but it really had a negative impact on my well being.
I still find it hard to feel empathy due to my depression but I certainly dont feel hate anymore. Its sad because I was able to feel these emotions of love and compassion years ago, but now it's replaced with this boring numbness. It just used to come so naturally and the strange thing is, nothing has changed for the worse over the past three years. I haven't experienced any trauma, any major emotional/physical pain, or anything really. But that's what depression is, an irrational desensitation to ordinary pleasures.
To those who have benefitted from visiting a psychologist and can relate from my post, please do share your experiences. Talking to my parents about this topic is tricky and virtually none of my friends or family members know or suspect a thing.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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Don't kill your parents, OP.
If I find a news article about a teen killing his parents because he smoked weed, I'm gonna rape you.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19625912 - 02/27/14 12:08 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Weed made you see an other perspective. You were the one, and the only one to pass judgement on your expereance.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Icyus]
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Icyus said: Weed made you see an other perspective. You were the one, and the only one to pass judgement on your expereance.
Yes, it did. Having experimented with a lot of different substances, I'm not sure which perspective is the "real" me.
On Kratom, I'm content with my family. On MDMA I love my family to death. On alcohol, I find my family funny, but in a good way. On psychedelics, I feel more connected in a strange way to them. On weed, I begin to hate every single flaw they have and am unable to see anything positive. When I'm sober, I feel no strong emotions towards them, neither of hate nor love.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex] 1
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HEYYYY! awesome dude, glad you came to this realization! I KNEW IT KNEW IT KNEW IT, you don't hate your family 
I think i commented earlier, What i was trying to say is to feel such intense emotions about every little thing they do, you must care a lot about them, thats the only way i could see it really bothering you, just seems maybe things were quite a bit....distorted for you, but those feelings of caring and anger and suffering were out of love all along.
So yeah dude, drugs can make you experience some really crazy shit and put you in some weird states of (un?)consciousness and it can be almost impossible to see the lines between "drug induced" and "real"...in fact they might as well be the same, however, taking drugs can make you feel like your feelings are yours, when in fact there is an altercation in brain chemistry involved.
I'm going to have to check this out for myself, i smoke marrijuana daily, except for yesterday funny enough and today as of yet. However i bet you there are tons of things i feel that i think are coming purely from me and have nothing to do with marijuana when in fact, I'm seeing a different "picture" then i would otherwise.
I get upset with people and my girlfriend sometimes, rarely my parents though when i was a child i had similar feelings to what you experienced. I wonder if marijuana makes me view certain things more negatively like it does for you?
in the opposing hand, marijuana may make me see certain people and ideas more negatively it makes me see other things more positively.
Heres how i would explain that:
when i get stoned your thoughts tend to grow and curl like long finger nails. It's like maybe I would stem off into a thought sober but it would be more of a fleeting notion, however when i'm stoned that thought stem keeps a'goin.
So your smokin some danky wid te homies, maybe some purp shkirt, and then those thoughts kick in. I usually get more quiet, become a listener, or maybe a good analogy would be a guitar pickup. When i'm sober I'm more acoustic, but when i get stoned it's like being turned into an pickup/humbucker and all these vibrations become amplified in my head.
So now were all blazed as fuck hanging out in a room, maybe some people aren't baked, who cares. but someone starts talking, and now that the pickup is running whatever they say is amplified to me, i begin to think about what they are saying, WHY they are saying, HOW they are saying and instantaneously begin to form a lot of thoughts on the person that could be relevent or irrelevant to what they are saying.
SO it becomes easier for someone to come off in a certain way. Some negatives that seem to be easy to pickup from people are egotism,cynicism,unawareness,crudeness,anger,fiendish desire.
It just seems like i pickup more of this from people when i'm stoned. However it's good to remember not to let any of that cause you suffering, even if it's more obvious.
It's easy to pick up positives in people when i'm stoned as well. For instance i notice acts of kindness much more clearly. When someone gives me something, without me asking or attempting to get anything, it's completely pleasent and i am very thankful of their kindness, noticeably more so than sober...especially if it's food!

Other things like empathy, respect, balanced mind, joy/laughter, sexual attraction, or just general happiness are easier for me to see in others.
Your thoughts are not you though, I just feel marijuana amplifies what i see around me. and maybe this isn't true for you, maybe it makes you feel negative and you see a lot of negativity in that state.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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Im confused how weed can make someone a negative nancy. It helps me tolerate my family much much more.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: Im confused how weed can make someone a negative nancy. It helps me tolerate my family much much more.
Sometimes weed gives people anxiety, especially if they're broke and frequently run out
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Repertoire89]
#19626153 - 02/27/14 01:07 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I knew a dude in S.America who didn't smoke because it made him violent.
ended up smoking him out. I didn't feel too at ease and he had some weird vibes..
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Apostle]
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One of those guys who puts off rapey vibes huh.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Mescalean]
#19626190 - 02/27/14 01:16 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Homicidal, to be honest.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Apostle]
#19626231 - 02/27/14 01:24 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damn. Sober was he normal?
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Mescalean]
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weed making people violent? That is pretty rare and unusual.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Everything]
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In some ways, you are what you eat... on the other hand, you are responsible for own actions..
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: Damn. Sober was he normal?
yea for sure, he was pretty chill otherwise. South America is crazy man. turns out I was staying with an ex-hitman too. scares me that my aunt is dating him but he seems ok.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
#19626662 - 02/27/14 03:03 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icyus said: Weed made you see an other perspective. You were the one, and the only one to pass judgement on your expereance.
Yes, it did. Having experimented with a lot of different substances, I'm not sure which perspective is the "real" me.
On Kratom, I'm content with my family. On MDMA I love my family to death. On alcohol, I find my family funny, but in a good way. On psychedelics, I feel more connected in a strange way to them. On weed, I begin to hate every single flaw they have and am unable to see anything positive. When I'm sober, I feel no strong emotions towards them, neither of hate nor love.
The real you is sober
Quit using drugs to escape reality and face your problems.
We are allways influenced by something.. but aye.. the last statement is indeed noteworthy...
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Icyus]
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I think I need to like smoke everyday and then when I have a long vacation stop smoking...
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Konyap]
#19627075 - 02/27/14 04:36 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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this isnt that hard of a general concept to grasp; you choose the input of your thoughts, feelings, and actions, and that reflects the output of the situation, so...
i think' and 'i need'
should be,
'i know' 'i dont need' ....
...to smoke everyday, and when i have vacation , i can enjoy it more since i wont be resorting or pondering the thought of smoking weed, my mind will be taking in the full experience on its own. when im looking for a fix to calm me down and get me into a good mindstate, i can 'meditate' . shit ill go to the beach on a nice day, and meditate to some guided imagery located on my ipod, and feel invincible and in mindful, in the moment. etc.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Endure]
#19627246 - 02/27/14 05:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Endure said: this isnt that hard of a general concept to grasp; you choose the input of your thoughts, feelings, and actions, and that reflects the output of the situation, so...
i think' and 'i need'
should be,
'i know' 'i dont need' ....
...to smoke everyday, and when i have vacation , i can enjoy it more since i wont be resorting or pondering the thought of smoking weed, my mind will be taking in the full experience on its own. when im looking for a fix to calm me down and get me into a good mindstate, i can 'meditate' . shit ill go to the beach on a nice day, and meditate to some guided imagery located on my ipod, and feel invincible and in mindful, in the moment. etc.
Remember when you were a kid and you played with toys? You could virtually use your imagination to generate any scenario as you saw fit and as a child, this was incredibly fun. You weren't just sitting there holding two action figures and hitting them together, you were creating a story in your mind. This is something children find incredibly entertaining. But as you grew up, your ability to make believe started to diminish and suddenly it really did become just a matter of sitting there and hitting two toys against each other. It turned stale, dull, and pretty boring.
This is exactly what depression feels like towards most activities that I choose to do. I remember how exciting going to the movies felt a few years ago, how much fun I derived from video games, how much I enjoyed dating, how passionate I was about traveling, and so forth.
It's really hard for me to imagine any activity right now that would sound enjoyable. The only time in the last 3 years where I have ever felt like "oh my god, life is incredible, this is so awesome" was when I was doing oxy or MDMA. Because of the dangerous nature of these drugs, I keep my usage to a minimum, like once every 3 months tops. I've only done MDMA 10 times in my life (over a span of over 2 years) and Oxy twice.
It's not just a matter of me changing my thoughts to enjoy and derive more pleasure from my activities. It's like I'm UNABLE to do that. I feel desensitized, that is the best word to use. I am locked in this perspective of boredom and numbness. It's like all these powerful emotions that the average person is able to experience of intense joy, extreme sorrow, excitement, grief, etc aren't present within me. The fucked up thing is, I didn't always feel this way.
And I've tried so many different methods to boost my mood. I worked out three times a week for about 2 months but didn't feel any sort of joy. I stopped eating junk food completely and gave up smoking cigarettes entirely. No longer being hooked on cigarettes (4 months) has certainly made my life easier and less stressful because it's one less craving, but it certainly hasn't brought me happiness. I feel like I'm doing everything right though. I have friends I hang out with frequently and constantly meet new people at University so my social life certainly isn't lacking. I'm not sitting at home doing nothing, I'm a full time student studying pharmacology with a 10 hour part time job on the side. I've been in relationships too and I'm not even a virgin. I'm housed in very good conditions at home. I don't have any deep guilt or a traumatic past. But I can't imagine anything that could potentially bring me the happiness and joy I felt years ago before this depression hit.
For instance, in 2 weeks I will be going to an all inclusive resort right by a beautiful, Sunny beach in Mexico. Unlimited food, unlimited alcohol, and just complete relaxation. The average person would be delighted, ecstatic, and happy. I've seen how pumped my friends get whenever they travel. But me? I can't, no matter how much I try, feel anticipated, excited, or happy about it. I wouldn't care in the slightest if the trip were to be cancelled because I know deep inside that no matter where I am, who I'm with, and what I'm doing, the desensitization will always be there.
It's not a matter of me lacking something, it's more that I don't know what I want. And I can't possibly imagine anything that would change my state. I'm not trying to look for pity here in any form by the way. I don't feel suicidal, I don't experience any deep emotional/physical pain on a day to day basis, it's just an odd sense of numbness. If I were to win the lottery tomorrow, I know even that wouldn't make me happy. =/
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you just sound cynical and ungrateful
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Alexestalex]
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Endure said: this isnt that hard of a general concept to grasp; you choose the input of your thoughts, feelings, and actions, and that reflects the output of the situation, so...
i think' and 'i need'
should be,
'i know' 'i dont need' ....
...to smoke everyday, and when i have vacation , i can enjoy it more since i wont be resorting or pondering the thought of smoking weed, my mind will be taking in the full experience on its own. when im looking for a fix to calm me down and get me into a good mindstate, i can 'meditate' . shit ill go to the beach on a nice day, and meditate to some guided imagery located on my ipod, and feel invincible and in mindful, in the moment. etc.
Remember when you were a kid and you played with toys? You could virtually use your imagination to generate any scenario as you saw fit and as a child, this was incredibly fun. You weren't just sitting there holding two action figures and hitting them together, you were creating a story in your mind. This is something children find incredibly entertaining. But as you grew up, your ability to make believe started to diminish and suddenly it really did become just a matter of sitting there and hitting two toys against each other. It turned stale, dull, and pretty boring.
This is exactly what depression feels like towards most activities that I choose to do. I remember how exciting going to the movies felt a few years ago, how much fun I derived from video games, how much I enjoyed dating, how passionate I was about traveling, and so forth.
It's really hard for me to imagine any activity right now that would sound enjoyable. The only time in the last 3 years where I have ever felt like "oh my god, life is incredible, this is so awesome" was when I was doing oxy or MDMA. Because of the dangerous nature of these drugs, I keep my usage to a minimum, like once every 3 months tops. I've only done MDMA 10 times in my life (over a span of over 2 years) and Oxy twice.
It's not just a matter of me changing my thoughts to enjoy and derive more pleasure from my activities. It's like I'm UNABLE to do that. I feel desensitized, that is the best word to use. I am locked in this perspective of boredom and numbness. It's like all these powerful emotions that the average person is able to experience of intense joy, extreme sorrow, excitement, grief, etc aren't present within me. The fucked up thing is, I didn't always feel this way.
And I've tried so many different methods to boost my mood. I worked out three times a week for about 2 months but didn't feel any sort of joy. I stopped eating junk food completely and gave up smoking cigarettes entirely. No longer being hooked on cigarettes (4 months) has certainly made my life easier and less stressful because it's one less craving, but it certainly hasn't brought me happiness. I feel like I'm doing everything right though. I have friends I hang out with frequently and constantly meet new people at University so my social life certainly isn't lacking. I'm not sitting at home doing nothing, I'm a full time student studying pharmacology with a 10 hour part time job on the side. I've been in relationships too and I'm not even a virgin. I'm housed in very good conditions at home. I don't have any deep guilt or a traumatic past. But I can't imagine anything that could potentially bring me the happiness and joy I felt years ago before this depression hit.
For instance, in 2 weeks I will be going to an all inclusive resort right by a beautiful, Sunny beach in Mexico. Unlimited food, unlimited alcohol, and just complete relaxation. The average person would be delighted, ecstatic, and happy. I've seen how pumped my friends get whenever they travel. But me? I can't, no matter how much I try, feel anticipated, excited, or happy about it. I wouldn't care in the slightest if the trip were to be cancelled because I know deep inside that no matter where I am, who I'm with, and what I'm doing, the desensitization will always be there.
It's not a matter of me lacking something, it's more that I don't know what I want. And I can't possibly imagine anything that would change my state. I'm not trying to look for pity here in any form by the way. I don't feel suicidal, I don't experience any deep emotional/physical pain on a day to day basis, it's just an odd sense of numbness. If I were to win the lottery tomorrow, I know even that wouldn't make me happy. =/
you sit here pondering about how you felt back then, you clearly remember those feelings, why can't you project them still? i think your into alot of 'deep thought', and less 'mindfulness' and enjoying the subtle pleasures we are allowed.
also, i get what your saying about being desensitized. there is some guided meditation i actually use to help me with my emotions, since ive numbed the wrong ones down, (enjoyment in activities) and have increased (anxiety and pain) instead. ive noticed significant increases in my mood and my general awareness of everything, i can make eye contact once again with people and smile and it is a 'feeling' that i have missed and have faked for so long, i can do small things like read a book, learn, drink some tea, and be satisfied.
at times someone may be expecting to much, depending on the person; your expecting to much, instead of enjoying the moment (mindfulness), your basing your experience off of selfish expectations.
its all about enjoying the moment, calmness, there is no 'rush' to enjoy something, and as you get older you realize that its the small things, that will bring you pleasure. like the thought of having a fruity alchoholic drink on vacation at the beach, on a canoo, just enjoying your surroundings, the light clear blue sea, the bright blue sky, the sun providing warmth to your skin as a gentle fresh breeze is passing by. being observant and taking in the simple pleasures, will help you alot.
with that said, what does your day look like then? if your spending 3 hours on a game, i can see why everything seems very unpleasurable and dull, stuff like that will get your mind racing and very ADD like instead of enjoying the things around you.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Endure]
#19630751 - 02/28/14 01:53 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's great! I was just about to say something similar.
Expectations, let them go. How can you be joyful and happy if you expect it? Then it's just like...ok, it standard, it's numbness,
Meditation, give it a go, but don't expect.
Also you should drop attachment to who you think you are, and the attachment to who you were in the past, people are constantly changing and to be attached to the way you were when you were a kid is only going back steps.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Everything]
#19635241 - 03/01/14 02:56 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Solution: Don't get high on the ganja around family OP.
I can remember when i had just started smoking, every little thing anyone did could annoy me. I think it's just part of analytic high that cannabis can bring.
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Re: Weed has made me hate my family [Re: Legend]
#19635298 - 03/01/14 03:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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i was that way when i was sober, but when i smoked my all my anger would go away
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