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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Enlil]
#19175122 - 11/22/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Commercial flights are not exactly a necessity of life though.
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: psi]
#19175129 - 11/22/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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comparing "Sizes" in the age of exponential technological increase. hehehe
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Enlil]
#19175135 - 11/22/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said: That's a big assumption, and batteries are still nowhere near at a point where they could be used to power electric commercial flights. They're not likely to get there in the next 50 years either.
I think you're dreaming here. We're a long way off from replacing oil with an alternative energy.
Again with a good supply of electricity, you can make liquid fuels like isobutanol, or methanol, other liquid fuels, or gaseous fuels like hydrogen, methane, propane, etc. This bypasses the need for battery technology in transportation.
Although our solar cells aren't efficient enough to do it, solar energy could easily supply all the energy we get from nonrenewable sources. Its all a matter of time and research.
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Patlal]
#19175149 - 11/22/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Battery technology hasn't improved much over the last 50 years, though. It would have to improve probably 100-1000 times as much in the next 50 years as it did in the last 50.
I'm not saying it's impossible..I said it was not likely.
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Patlal]
#19175159 - 11/22/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
Oil: We are aware that we will run out and we are already taking steps to replace it
We are no where close being prepared for the oil prices that will be present in the next decade or so. America's economy is about to get fucked in the ass. Can't say we don't deserve it
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: psi]
#19175164 - 11/22/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said: Commercial flights are not exactly a necessity of life though.
Neither is refrigeration or running water if you get down to it.
I don't see a world happening where 10 billion people live accepting that they're going to have to give up conveniences they have today in order for more of us to stay on the planet.
On the contrary, as fossil fuel gets more scarce, I see people fighting each other for the last drop of it, and reducing the population far below its current level.
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Moonshoe]
#19175190 - 11/22/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: The single most important positive environmental choice a person can make is to not have any children. To choose not to have children is to make a real sacrifice for the greater good and the planet earth.
Conversely, deciding to have children is the single most ecological harmful choice that most people will ever make.
I fuckin agree. Goddamn you think like an ecologist! Bravo good sir. Guess what I got my nuts clipped
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it's ok, you can always correct the surgery when you end up wanting a kid.
PS: hot AV is HAWT.
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i like cow poo said:
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Moonshoe said: The single most important positive environmental choice a person can make is to not have any children. To choose not to have children is to make a real sacrifice for the greater good and the planet earth.
Conversely, deciding to have children is the single most ecological harmful choice that most people will ever make.
I fuckin agree. Goddamn you think like an ecologist! Bravo good sir. Guess what I got my nuts clipped
Both of you idiots have been severely brainwashed, and I pity you.
If you both truly felt that way, please go off yourselves right now. Surely just consuming electricity and food daily is just as "harmful" as having a child would be.
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Thulean] 1
#19175238 - 11/22/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Of course not. The child will eat food and consume electricity daily for his/her whole life.
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akira_akuma said: it's ok, you can always correct the surgery when you end up wanting a kid.
This is the first thing people say when they hear I have a vasectomy. My response is always, "Yeah, I had someone cut into my nuts, cut my tubes, burn the ends shut, then sew me up so they could swell to the size of a cantaloupe....just so that I can undo it later."
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Thulean]
#19175240 - 11/22/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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they are of a different school of thought on the matters of "what a child means to a person".
before they've had any kids, they will presume that all kids are basically units of distractability, and/or units "resource wasters".
it's a weird sort of idealism, that is quite shocking. considering none of them know what it's like to have a child.
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Enlil]
#19175244 - 11/22/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said: This is the first thing people say when they hear I have a vasectomy. My response is always, "Yeah, I had someone cut into my nuts, cut my tubes, burn the ends shut, then sew me up so they could swell to the size of a cantaloupe....just so that I can undo it later."
LOL, i was only half-serious. my point was that it's alot of trouble to get back your juice; more trouble then it is to stitch up your gear.
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And people with children are so blinded by their biological connection to their spawn that they are unable to see how truly useless their offspring is for many years.
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LOL, i was only half-serious. my point was that it's alot of trouble to get back your juice; more trouble then it is to stitch up your gear.
It's actually quite easy for them to extract sperm for invitro, though.
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akira_akuma said: they are of a different school of thought on the matters of "what a child means to a person".
before they've had any kids, they will presume that all kids are basically units of distractability, and/or units "resource wasters".
it's a weird sort of idealism, that is quite shocking. considering none of them know what it's like to have a child.
Your brain changes in a lot of ways when you have a child. Makes sense, because the species wouldn't last long if people were throttling those noise making poop machines to death.
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Enlil]
#19175262 - 11/22/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, people want to feel fulfilled, right? so have a kid, raise 'em to be YOU 2.0 and you get a new best bud...! for a increment of their life, and then they start hating you and visa versa. YAYQuote:
Enlil said:
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akira_akuma said:
LOL, i was only half-serious. my point was that it's alot of trouble to get back your juice; more trouble then it is to stitch up your gear.
It's actually quite easy for them to extract sperm for invitro, though.
yeah, that's absolutely true. didn't think of that. kinda makes the whole argument moot.
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Your brain changes in a lot of ways when you have a child. Makes sense, because the species wouldn't last long if people were throttling those noise making poop machines to death.
LOL, indeed.
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Enlil] 1
#19175266 - 11/22/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is so utterly pathetic to not want to bring life back into this world. Honestly people who are intelligent enough to think to themselves "hey the world is pretty bad, maybe I shouldn't bring another thing into it"
ARE EXACTLY THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE RAISING CHILDREN. Also known as, empathetic and intelligent human beings who can look around them and philosophize. These are the people who need to breed, not the idiots who will never question themselves, or even contemplate what is the right thing to do. And these are the types of people who birth way too much.
It's so sad what has happened to todays "men". The thought of having a family is seen as Beta? Are you fucking joking? The only Alpha thing a man can do in life is raise a loving family.
I attribute these male masses of confused, reward seeking sluts to the brainwashing the tube shits out.
You got a vasectomy not because you wanted to, but because you thought it was the cool thing to do. I guarantee later in life you will feel so empty, useless, and sad.
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Re: Overpopulation [Re: Thulean]
#19175274 - 11/22/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thulean said: It is so utterly pathetic to not want to bring life back into this world. Honestly people who are intelligent enough to think to themselves "hey the world is pretty bad, maybe I shouldn't bring another thing into it"
ARE EXACTLY THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE RAISING CHILDREN. Also known as, empathetic and intelligent human beings who can look around them and philosophize. These are the people who need to breed, not the idiots who will never question themselves, or even contemplate what is the right thing to do. And these are the types of people who birth way too much.
It's so sad what has happened to todays "men". The thought of having a family is seen as Beta? Are you fucking joking? The only Alpha thing a man can do in life is raise a loving family.
I attribute these male masses of confused, reward seeking sluts to the brainwashing the tube shits out.
You got a vasectomy not because you wanted to, but because you thought it was the cool thing to do. I guarantee later in life you will feel so empty, useless, and sad.
you make a few good points, but you completely ruined it at the end
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akira_akuma said: it's ok, you can always correct the surgery when you end up wanting a kid.
PS: hot AV is HAWT.
I will NEVER have an expensive child in this fucked up world. Even if I did it'd be adopted.
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