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akira_akuma
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bladder problems lead to kidney problems and visa versa, though. so i kinda meant to mention both. but yeah, Ket has been shown to cause Bladder problems.
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Re: My drug regimen/cycle/strategy [Re: akira_akuma]
#19175053 - 11/22/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: bladder problems lead to kidney problems and visa versa, though. so i kinda meant to mention both. but yeah, Ket has been shown to cause Bladder problems.
Yeah you're right. That was my bad. I figured bladder was generally the most immediate issue with ketamine abuse though. Though I'm sure it affects both. I really do wonder how often is okay though. I've done it roughly 6 times since August. Two of those were 250mg. The others were just bumps here and there, never exceeding 100-150 in a night.
Not really my plan to even keep it at that rate. Some of those were special occasions, but regardless it would be nice to have some data on that kind of stuff
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akira_akuma
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well, there isn't much conclusive data, seeing how using Ketamine recreationally is illegal.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_article2.shtml
erowid seems to have a good article on it.
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JacksonMetaller
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Re: My drug regimen/cycle/strategy [Re: akira_akuma]
#19175078 - 11/22/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They actually make it seem pretty damn safe lolll. 2mg/kg a day is not a freakin bad high, though i would never push my luck and actually do that
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akira_akuma
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lower doses are ALOT safer then higher doses. higher doses is where you start to tread carefully, and not do too much all the time.
i would think K-holing once a week is gonna lead to physical problems, eventually.
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Re: My drug regimen/cycle/strategy [Re: akira_akuma]
#19175200 - 11/22/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: lower doses are ALOT safer then higher doses. higher doses is where you start to tread carefully, and not do too much all the time.
i would think K-holing once a week is gonna lead to physical problems, eventually.
I thought damage with ketamine was cumulative though? I didn't think either one was more or less dangers from a toxicology standpoint so long as the same mass of drug is taken over the same period of time. Ie, i didn't think it would be more dangerous to snort 50 milligram lines 5 times a week, than to snort a 250mg line at the end of the week.
No doubt kholing once a week is excessive though. I don't disagree with that, but i'm not so sure that high doses are more dangerous, so much as the overall intake of ketamine is
I could be wrong though. Wish Tymo would step in here. He's a ketamine fanatic with a good bit of knowledge on drug effects.
Edited by JacksonMetaller (11/22/13 03:08 PM)
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With k and MXE I never do hole doses, just tiny little bumps.
Also you say "liver can't heal itself" but a rurally the liver has remarkable regenerative capabilities, unless k dies some special kind of irreversible damage to the liver, which I have never heard.
I have only heard of bladder problems from k , and I usually hear that is only with very heavy long term abuse. Either way I think small and infrequent doses is the only way to go.
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