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Anonymous #1

Defeated, life's won.
    #19153380 - 11/18/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well the pub isn't Facebook or Twitter and I need to vent so I guess it goes here.

I've reached a dead end with no where to go. For many years now I have been unable to find a job and believe me I have tried. I eventually gave up on the idea, but a friend said he could get me hired on with him. Although I'd have to get sober and  clean for a hair test, and get my liscense (suspended) a TWIC card and my GED. All of which cost money we don't have (we live paycheck to paycheck and pretty much have nothing left over each paycheck.) I had to borrow money from my grandma to get this stuff and we're still paying her back months later.

He's continually made excuses and I'm not even sure that he turned in my paperwork, I can't get in touch with the HR lady myself. He says he can't ever catch her, and when he does my status goes no where. The last time he got in touch with her he said she made a note to check on my status which was supposed to take 2-3 weeks (this was after 5) and that he'd get back in touch with her in a couple of days. This was nearly 2 weeks ago. Now he won't even answer my texts. With all the excuses and the info on the paperwork I've had the thought maybe it was all some elaborate ploy to steal my identity. With as much as he makes I don't see why, but who knows at this point.

Anyways, I've pretty much given up on the idea that this is going anywhere and he was my best chance at getting a job that isn't fast food. I refuse to go back to fast food and work for poverty wages, even if I COULD get a job at one (I tried that as well, and never did, but I've since decided I won't even bother trying there anymore).

Every single place that I ~could~ work wants some kind of training I can't afford, or experience I don't have. Even for "entry level" positions and helpers/assistants for skilled trades. The places that "will train" all want a clean criminal history, something I'm far from. I have a felony and a class A misdemeanor. A possession charge as well. Warehouses, plants, construction, they all want something I don't have.

I can't go back to school because we can't afford it and I can't get government assistance because I didn't sign up for the draft. I have no friends or family (aside from the one mentioned) who could help me get a job where they work, and I've only worked 3 months out of the last 10 years so I don't even have any work references (my boss loved the work I did, but he's dead). I refuse to do telemarketing or "sales" (I am the exact opposite of a people person and can't even just bullshit my way through it, I'm painfully shy and awkward) or go back to fast food. So I've no where else to go.

And yeah I know someone's going to come along and say I'm just making excuses and if I really wanted a job I could get one (well if anyone even bothers to reply that is) like I said I've been looking (unsuccessfully) for years, I've heard it all before. It's horseshit. Just wanting something bad enough doesn't mean you'll get it.. I have no help and nothing in my favor. There's always a better suited candidate applying for the same job I am. Someone who has work references or experience or training or no criminal history.


Edited by Anonymous (11/18/13 10:00 AM)


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Anonymous #2

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19154544 - 11/18/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

how old are you


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Anonymous #1

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19154568 - 11/18/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

28


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Anonymous #3

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #19155154 - 11/18/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I know this is fucking cliche but don't give up. Especially not at fucking 28. I was still living with my folks when I was 25 and was a full blown coke & xanax addict. But I overcame it. Kicked the addictions and moved out. I had to work a handful of shit jobs (but hey, they're still jobs with paychecks) but eventually I climbed up a little in the world. My current job doesn't make me rich but it has allowed me to afford rent at a very nice place and I've put away 30 plus grand into savings.

If I can do it anybody can.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19157725 - 11/18/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
I refuse to do telemarketing or "sales" (I am the exact opposite of a people person and can't even just bullshit my way through it, I'm painfully shy and awkward) or go back to fast food. So I've no where else to go.




Beggars can't be choosers and it sounds like you're going to have a lot more begging in your future. Better to do it on the phone, than on the corner.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #19157887 - 11/19/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a good idea what you are going through right now.  I was kicked out of my home at 17 because my sister stole a bunch of drugs from my father.  I was blamed since he said she was "too young" (a year and a half younger than myself). Due to this, I failed out of high school and never had a chance to go back.  I'm now 29, and my life is finally starting to come together.  I've been homeless several times, and a recovered alcoholic.

You can get a job with a temp agency.  They have them all over the place, and they usually hire on the spot.  The pay is kind of junk, but they usually pay out every day(after taxes taken out), and you will work in different places that might offer you a full-time job. 

Another place you can try is the unemployment office.  They can help you connect with employers. 

Also, if you have to clean yourself, I would assume that you have spent some kind of money on substances.  I know it will suck, but save the money that you are using on that to pay for your GED test fee.  Get in touch with your school and they can direct you to a testing center.  They have classes to prepare you for free, and the cost of the test is around 150(or at least it was in the state that I got mine). 

At the very least, you can work a shit job until you can find a better one.  I worked for several construction companies over the years, and all but one was paid under the table.  Many companies hire illegal aliens, so they sure as hell don't care about your criminal record.

With a little bit of direction, and getting yourself in the mindset to do something for yourself, you should be just fine.  I wish you the best in your endeavors.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #5] * 1
    #19158010 - 11/19/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

good game bro.

-life


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Anonymous #7

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19158260 - 11/19/13 04:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A lot of this is your own fault OP.  A drug problem, not having a GED, suspended license, felony, misdemeanor.

Life can be hard, and I have a lot of empathy for people in a tough situation.  But you need to face reality, that you just have to get your shit together.

Life didn't win, you threw the game.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #19158968 - 11/19/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a GED and my "drug problem" was weed.. I just had to get clean because the friend's job does hair testing.

After making this thread the friend finally called me back, but nothing has really changed since the last time we talked. I still don't have a job or even an interview for the place. He still hasn't managed to get a hold of the HR lady.

I would say I have my shit together, I've done everything he asked of me to get me hired on with him. I quit smoking and drinking, I got my GED, my license and my TWIC card.

As for not wanting to get into telemarketing, it goes well beyond just not wanting to do it.. Talking to strangers induces panic attacks in me. I can handle one or two people, but anything heavily customer based would literally have me constantly turning pale, light headed, nauseous and possibly even passing out. Can't tell me to just go see a doctor about this either, because with what money? Doctors cost money and so does the medication and I've already dealt extensively with free clinics and they do not want to help people. I tell them something doesn't work and they tell me to keep taking the same shitty med.

And I never said most of this shit wasn't my fault, I know it is. But I wanted to turn everything around and every avenue of escape I try it seems like life just goes "lolno".


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Anonymous #8

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19159272 - 11/19/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Talking to strangers induces panic attacks in me. I can handle one or two people, but anything heavily customer based would literally have me constantly turning pale, light headed, nauseous and possibly even passing out.




Do it anyway.  You'll adapt and be better off.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #19159845 - 11/19/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't have any answers for you, but I will tell you that there are people out there that respect your problems. Very few and far between, but they are there.

The only advice I can offer is to try and network as much as possible with people you do get along with/have something in common with. Put it out there that you need some work, because they are going to find out eventually anyway.

Come back and vent anytime, beats having that shit inside eating you like a cancer.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #19160552 - 11/19/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ya.  Kicking yourself in the ass is only going to make things worse.  I listen to this when I feel my life is too fucked.


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Anonymous #10

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19175193 - 11/22/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do you have any talents that you can turn into professions? I reached a wall to where I was pretty much unemployable so I became an entrepreneur. No one will really tell you how to do it, or what works best for you it's just one of those things you gotta play with til you get it right.

Since I was a little kid I was always one of those guys who had all those get rich quick schemes. 99/100 of them will fail but there is that 1/100 that you just so happen to get right while it lasts and once you get one of those stick with it and ride it out. make sure its legal if you want to keep it for the long run...and also you gotta get rid of the notion of the "quick" part for some of them.


PRACTICE something. Do it for cheap/free at first. Offer friends your services. People go to school for these things. Those people are CHUMPS. Here is a list. Start off gray market. these are all easy skills you can teach yourself with practice but people will tell you you gotta go to school for it so they can scam money outta you and sell you a certification. fuck that. be self taught. become an entrepreneur. here is a list of some things, that you can find information on how to do, FOR FREE, on the Internet, that work for some people:
  • tattoo artist
  • barber
  • tailor
  • vendor
  • jeweler
  • janitor
  • landscaper
  • laundry business
  • car washing
  • yoga instructor
  • graphic designer
  • painter(commercial)
  • painter(artistic)
  • import/export
  • scrapping/recycling
  • DJ
  • musician
  • freelance writer
  • cook
  • baker
  • childcare
  • grocery delivery
  • courier
  • van driver for events/airport
  • coach
  • motivational speaker
  • swim instructor
  • music instructor
  • instructor
  • knife maker
  • stone cutter
  • wilderness guide


These, my friend are merely the tip of the iceberg, there are literally THOUSANDS of skills you can teach yourself like this if you have an intelligent mind, or even just a clever mind without a high IQ. turn off the tv, put down the bong and get industrious.

Yeah, you wont get a job right off the bat at an established company by teaching yourself one of these things, but when you give it a couple years it's not unrealistic to say you could be self employed and making some money, at least a few hundred a week when you're 30.

The trick is to find something like one of these things that you're interested in enough to build up the knowledge base and become an expert. people will tell you you cant. fuck those people


Edited by Anonymous (11/22/13 03:16 PM)


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Anonymous #11

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #19178610 - 11/23/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP, sounds like you've got an excuse for everything wrong in your life. Snap out of that mindset. Be thankful for what you already have...think about it. Find out what you want and go get it! No matter what! I got my GED at 22 and continued to educate myself, now make 150k yr. I have the best job in the world...something I always wanted. It's not easy and it won't happen over night. Don't rely on your "friend", rely on yourself. Good luck.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #19181050 - 11/24/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There will always be someone better then you no matter what you do.

Life sucks sometimes but you either adapt or bite the bullet(IE work at shitty jobs until you make more money).


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Anonymous #6

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #12] * 1
    #19182383 - 11/24/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
There will always be someone better then you no matter what you do.




this is a lie that ugly stupid people tell themselves


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Anonymous #12

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #6] * 1
    #19182429 - 11/24/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

my friend sold crack and got a job at a deli making 12dollars an hour

granted where I live is fucked but you could probably do the same until you get a manager job and stop posting here on the shroomery lol


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Anonymous #13

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #19183039 - 11/24/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't quite recommend selling crack.  I'd go apply at every restaurant (and I mean every single one whether it be fast food or nice food or whatever bc you can always work your way up) in a 20 mile radius for a dishwashing position and work my way up in the kitchen or front of house.  Either way, you gotta start somewhere and a shit job is better than no job at all.  Look in your yellow pages and call up every single landscaping, painting, irrigation, carpentry, electrical, plumbing, roofing, flooring, etc subcontractor there is and call every single one asking if they need help and if you can fill out an application. 

If you do both of those things, you will get a job.  My good friend worked in a mcdonalds for 6 years, worked his way up to manager.  After that he moved to a nice restaurant, worked his way up,s and now he makes around 50k a year on salary.  He's 30 years old.

If you have truly applied to every single one of all these jobs and you don't get one I will be shocked.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #19183187 - 11/24/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well be shocked because I've already done that. I have applied to every single place I could have possibly worked at, multiple times over, for any position, part time or full time and got an interview at Kroger's and Walmart and that was it.

I'm just not going to keep applying for fast food, if I'm going to have this hard of a time finding a job regardless of where I apply at, I'm not wasting my time on fast food any longer. I figured getting into fast food would be easier than getting a "decent job" so I was applying for it. Turns out I was wrong, so I'm not going to struggle and aim low at the same time.

There's still a chance I'm getting the job with the friend, turns out they lost my paper work or something and couldn't run my background. I've emailed them directly (their request, not because of my passiveness and fear of speaking to people) and handed over my information and it should be back in a few days. I'm just not very confident in it at this point. I'm going to give it just a little bit longer and see what comes of my direct contact and if things don't go well I'll head to temp agency.

I hope that experience is better than Worksource/Workforce. I was told they help you get a job as well, but they don't do shit. They don't do anything I haven't already been doing. They sit you on a computer and tell you to start filling out applications. It's basically just a free internet cafe where you're only allowed to look for employment online.


Edited by Anonymous (11/24/13 03:34 PM)


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Anonymous #2

Re: Defeated, life's won. [Re: Anonymous #1] * 3
    #19183346 - 11/24/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

take a xanax before job interviews or something. You sound socially retarded


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