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Pumert
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My first grow kit, already an issue
#19174664 - 11/22/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I purchased an innervisions grow kit from a sponsor and when I received it i notice there was moisture on the inside of the lid and that there were blue dots randomly in the mycelium network, at first I thought o great contam! but maybe it could be bruising through shipping, i was about to post the picture when i realized you can not see it on my like 1 megapixel phone camera, because the strands of myceleium look so strong and rizomorphic i believe? i know grow kits sucks but i was hoping to make some syringes out of this kit fruit and I have plans to make a pan cyan garden bed but i wanted to have a go at cubes rather quickly as I wont be getting a pressure cooker until Christmas lol. ill try and post what i have but you wont see the blue i am talking about maybe i can get a better pic(if i learn how to upload)
i think i did
Lastly if i can get a better pic of the blue to get your guys judgments instead of submerging the tray in water i prepared a worm casting tea last night which is completely chilled and ready, just wondering if the nitrogen rich water would be good for a 12 hour soak?
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: Pumert]
#19174672 - 11/22/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So it was colonized already? That's a shifty sign from the get go
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: cronicr]
#19174682 - 11/22/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: So it was colonized already? That's a shifty sign from the get go
probably not even cube mycelium in there
Grow kits suck
my geting started topic
pf tek
and watch these.
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Pumert
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: bodhisatta]
#19174692 - 11/22/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: So it was colonized already? That's a shifty sign from the get go
I just wanted to cut corners one time my first go around, ive studied the process for yeaaaars and truelly appreciate this fruit body that has helped our species evolve. I just wanted to get started with something simple right away the PC comes next to avoid this scare from ever happening, but i would just like to know if it is safe to soak a myscelium network into worm casting teaQuote:
bodhisatta said:
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cronicr said: So it was colonized already? That's a shifty sign from the get go
probably not even cube mycelium in there
Grow kits suck
my geting started topic
pf tek
and watch these.
I really doubt a sponsor that has been with this site longer than i have ever been a member would sell fake myc, i get it o i didnt wanna do it myself FLAME, but i just want answers to my questions please
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: Pumert]
#19174694 - 11/22/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think any sponsors sell illegal kits, are they edibles?
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: Pumert]
#19174700 - 11/22/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pumert said: I just wanted to cut corners one time my first go around,
ive studied the process for yeaaaars and truelly appreciate this fruit body that has helped our species evolve.
then you haven't done your studying at all, and furthermore you don't really appreciate the "fruit body". If you appreciate it cultivate it don't cut corners because there's no corners to be cut. WTF.
 
also no sponsor sells live mycelium as far as I know. Maybe some bullshit from Amsterdam.
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Pumert
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: cronicr]
#19174710 - 11/22/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: I don't think any sponsors sell illegal kits, are they edibles?
who are you to speak on legalities and raise any unwanted attention to this thread. I understand red flags here suspicion there I have made my own decisions, through this decision there are many possible outcomes and possibilities which i have thoroughly thought out, now this is the reality my myc could be contaminated or bruised i will get another picture now if the next thing i hear is not pertaining to that question or the question on the safety of soaking myc in cooled worm casting tea i really just do not want to hear it...
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Pumert
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: bodhisatta]
#19174713 - 11/22/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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Pumert said: I just wanted to cut corners one time my first go around,
ive studied the process for yeaaaars and truelly appreciate this fruit body that has helped our species evolve.
then you haven't done your studying at all, and furthermore you don't really appreciate the "fruit body". If you appreciate it cultivate it don't cut corners because there's no corners to be cut. WTF.
 
also no sponsor sells live mycelium as far as I know. Maybe some bullshit from Amsterdam.
You dont me, my process of thinking or understanding, what gives you the right to shower me with your negativity?
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: Pumert]
#19174721 - 11/22/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Take it easy I'm trying here but gotta know what your growing, but ok I'll forget it and gl
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Pumert
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: cronicr]
#19174741 - 11/22/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Take it easy I'm trying here but gotta know what your growing, but ok I'll forget it and gl
well if i said its golden teacher cambodian hybrid you guys were just gonna say cubes + cubes = cubes and go on a rant talking about vendor advertising bs and i really just want a simple opinion on a question I have.. im bringing up more pics now..

see the first pic is on top of the casing you can make out blue in the myc, and the latter pic is the side that has no bruising at all, I say it looks rather beautiful to me.. i think that may be the side that had more padding in the shipping box..
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Pumert
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: Pumert]
#19174757 - 11/22/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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if it is contamination id just like to know if i could break up the spawn and salvage it, otherwise id just like to know if there are objections to soaking it in worm casting tea for 12 hours to kick this off...
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: Pumert]
#19174765 - 11/22/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe they sold you a super fresh case that they forgot to dry out.
Edited by Isotope-2-Sip (11/22/13 12:42 PM)
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Pumert
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: Isotope-2-Sip]
#19174784 - 11/22/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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so is your vote contam? the blue is very minimal and reminds me of bruising like when I hunt P Cyans, but maybe i just want to believe it is safe..
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: cronicr]
#19174789 - 11/22/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would just use regular water myself, less opportunity for introducing contams I'd think. The blue is probably just normal bruising, if it ends up being a contamination you're screwed either way, no real way to salvage it. If that happens just save the pictures and ask for a refund/exchange. This is one of the numerous reasons that grow kits are frowned upon around here. Good luck
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Pumert
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OneiricOutsider said: I would just use regular water myself, less opportunity for introducing contams I'd think. The blue is probably just normal bruising, if it ends up being a contamination you're screwed either way, no real way to salvage it. If that happens just save the pictures and ask for a refund/exchange. This is one of the numerous reasons that grow kits are frowned upon around here. Good luck
thankyou so much for being as straightforward as you possibly could, i will gladly send positive vibes your way when this whole hing gets worked out, nice default btw
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: Pumert]
#19174807 - 11/22/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pumert said:
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cronicr said: I don't think any sponsors sell illegal kits, are they edibles?
who are you to speak on legalities and raise any unwanted attention to this thread. I understand red flags here suspicion there I have made my own decisions, through this decision there are many possible outcomes and possibilities which i have thoroughly thought out, now this is the reality my myc could be contaminated or bruised i will get another picture now if the next thing i hear is not pertaining to that question or the question on the safety of soaking myc in cooled worm casting tea i really just do not want to hear it...
I'm just clearing up that shroomery sponsors don't sell active myc, you meant vendor. Dunk it in water or mist the fuck out of it,don't follow the instructions I've seen them, give them pleny of fae and mist when needed
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: cronicr]
#19174964 - 11/22/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pumert said: i really just want a simple opinion on a question I have.. im bringing up more pics now..
If you want advice and opinions here's mine. Throw it out and start over the right way. This is the cultivation forums not get high cheap and easy forums.
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Pumert said:
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cronicr said: I don't think any sponsors sell illegal kits, are they edibles?
who are you to speak on legalities and raise any unwanted attention to this thread. I understand red flags here suspicion there I have made my own decisions, through this decision there are many possible outcomes and possibilities which i have thoroughly thought out, now this is the reality my myc could be contaminated or bruised i will get another picture now if the next thing i hear is not pertaining to that question or the question on the safety of soaking myc in cooled worm casting tea i really just do not want to hear it...
I'm just clearing up that shroomery sponsors don't sell active myc, you meant vendor. Dunk it in water or mist the fuck out of it,don't follow the instructions I've seen them, give them pleny of fae and mist when needed

I wouldn't use a worm tea at all.
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: bodhisatta]
#19175603 - 11/22/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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One reason we'd be trying to suss out whether or not you had actually bought living mycelium from a vendor is that 1) we're pretty sure none of the Shroomery vendors sells living mycelium of an active species, 2) if you'd purchased living mycelium from a vendor, it's probably an edible and not an active, as selling mycelium of an active would be illegal, and 3) species matters as to whether or not your bluish looking spots are bruising (cube mycelium bruises blue) or contam (edibles do not).
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19175823 - 11/22/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm just a noob here Pumert...but I believe you'll get better answers when you ask for advice, and not demand it....just my .02
Either way...good luck with what ya got there!
oh...and punctuation usually helps too
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: bodhisatta]
#19175859 - 11/22/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you want advice and opinions here's mine. Throw it out and start over the right way. This is the cultivation forums not get high cheap and easy forums.
I'm more than happy to help anyone who wants to get high cheap and easy. We're in agreement that grow kits aren't the best way to do it, though.
OP, what everyone is trying to say here is that nobody sells a substrate colonized with cubensis mycelium via mail. It just doesn't happen, because it's massively illegal and not worth the risk. If you received that thing and it was already colonized, it's probably a bag of oyster spawn. Which is also cool if you're just a mushroom dork like me, but maybe not for you. So was it colonized?
Edited by Psilicon (11/22/13 06:16 PM)
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: Psilicon]
#19175900 - 11/22/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've seen them on here fifty times, shitty tray that sits on water in a bag and they tell you no need to open up or mist
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: cronicr]
#19175914 - 11/22/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: I've seen them on here fifty times, shitty tray that sits on water in a bag and they tell you no need to open up or mist
Yeah, the problem is that I hard a rough day at work and my last statement made absolutely zero sense. 
Edited it for clarity: nobody mails cubensis mycelium.
Edited for more clarity: today I am a retard and yeah, I've seen those too and now I'm shutting up because fuck it I give up.
Edited by Psilicon (11/22/13 06:18 PM)
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: Psilicon]
#19176224 - 11/22/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually, if any of you have been on the deep web, they sell those often. Lots of selling illegal things online. Just saying.
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: ozymandius]
#19176313 - 11/22/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Doesn't a live mycelium being illegal or legal, depend on where you are on the world?
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: monoculture]
#19178639 - 11/23/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I learned a lot from this.
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: monoculture]
#19178914 - 11/23/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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monoculture said: Doesn't a live mycelium being illegal or legal, depend on where you are on the world?
Yeah. But none of the Shroomery vendors (that I know of) are located in countries in which it would be legal to sell live cubensis mycelium.
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19207855 - 11/30/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are a few located in .nl. Over there mycelium is not illegal. The fresh and dry shrooms are illegal, sclerotia are not. Sending something to another country that is not forbidden in your own country will not get you arrested in your own country. There might be a problem coming into the USA after sending lots of stuff considered illegal there, but they try to solve that with disclaimers that the receiving party has to check the local law. If that is enough I don't know because i'm not a lawyer and don't know enough about international law. But I know for sure it is very well possible to order live mycelium from a shroomery vendor.
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Pumert
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: monoculture]
#19231164 - 12/05/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am not saying i feel good morally about it but thankyou,there was absolutely no need for any flame at all, see ignorance is bliss but not when you go on ranting about something when you are just wrong. so i finally have pins, i have never misted the substrate and I actually am planning on going on a skate trip, leaving today thursday should be back around 1am on Sunday but will the 48+ hours be too long away? like without misting could they be dried out and busted open filling the bag with purple spores? or as long as i keep the 75-80 temp with the humidity provided by the still water and perlite everything should be fine when i get home at 1am sunday morning?
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Pumert
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Re: My first grow kit, already an issue [Re: 1down5up]
#19231614 - 12/05/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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1down5up said: I'm just a noob here Pumert...but I believe you'll get better answers when you ask for advice, and not demand it....just my .02
Either way...good luck with what ya got there!
oh...and punctuation usually helps too 
I was not trying to demand it as much as I was trying to keep the thread on topic because as soon i posted this thread my subject was immediately derailed and taken over IMO
That is just not my writing style, it is not like any of this is a work I can or would submit for publication. I just get my thoughts out as fast as I can in order to keep up because I type slower than I think, I would revise and edit my writings but I have enough formal letters to write as it is so just bear with me and my shorthand.
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