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    #19173397 - 11/22/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Now, before all you Moonbats start cumming in your pants, lets analyze this carefully.

1) Yes, Robinhood did take from the rich and give to the poor.

2) But in Robinhood, 'The Rich' was the government, the Sheriff of Notingham, not anyone out to earn a living.

Sorry, Robin Hood is about limiting government, not looting citizens to spread the wealth.  :smug: :smirk:


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19173889 - 11/22/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Very enlightening breakdown. On a side note, what do you think of Chicago's 26 Billion Dollar pension shortfall? That's twice as much as Detroit's. That's a big problem going to happen, stupid that instead of paying for essential services like fire fighting, police, sewage, power/energy, public schools they are going to have to be paying for peoples bloated pensions.

To get back to your analogy. I'm fine with robin hood stealing from the "rich" and giving the "poor" essential services that they can't afford, like the above mentioned things.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: pretzelking]
    #19175245 - 11/22/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Starfire If you were rich, you were some kind of lord, everything was individually made by craftsman it was PRE-industrial revolution, there was no corporations who were getting tax exemptions or hand outs from the government. There were no CEOs making 365x more then their workers which is up from 42x only a few years ago.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19175260 - 11/22/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Kevin did you just describe Warren Buffet in that last sentence?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #19175331 - 11/22/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's funny because you are right, he was stealing from the tax man. The Sheriff of Nottingham was corrupt and greedy so he jacked up taxes and his goons harassed the people.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: setb]
    #19175339 - 11/22/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

no more political discussion for me i guess, the People who don't agree with my point of view blow the whistle on me 24.7.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: B_BOY]
    #19176103 - 11/22/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Kevin did you just describe Warren Buffet in that last sentence?





No, it was George Soros.

At least a CEO though, works.  Look at John Kerry--mega rich and it was shoved up his butt along with the silver spoon.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: B_BOY]
    #19176131 - 11/22/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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no more political discussion for me i guess, the People who don't agree with my point of view blow the whistle on me 24.7.





Guess youre opting out again?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #19176140 - 11/22/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Kevin did you just describe Warren Buffet in that last sentence?





No, it was George Soros.

At least a CEO though, works.  Look at John Kerry--mega rich and it was shoved up his butt along with the silver spoon.



Kerry?  Like McCain, he married his money.  Twice in Kerry's case.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19176150 - 11/22/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nancy Pelosi is another silver spoon up the ass mega rich lib.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19186221 - 11/25/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm 100% sure that Robin Hood was out for himself and only gave like 1% of what he stole to the poor to look good.

He was a greedy motherfucker like other man.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Patlal]
    #19186486 - 11/25/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just shows what you know. The STORY says "he took from the rich and gave to the poor". Its a fuck'n story, there was no real RH so that make you 100% wrong.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19186501 - 11/25/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Nancy Pelosi is another silver spoon up the ass mega rich lib.





And what has that got to do with anything?

The richest piece of crap in federal government is Darrel Issa.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19186505 - 11/25/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Just shows what you know. The STORY says "he took from the rich and gave to the poor". Its a fuck'n story, there was no real RH so that make you 100% wrong.




Hold on there buddy.

Are you saying the Robin Hood did NOT exist??? Clearly you know nothing about the British midieval era.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19186511 - 11/25/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, no.  The whole robbing the rich to give to the poor was only added in the late 19th century.  Before that, he was just a violent thief that stole from dishonest people and helped whomever he wanted, including himself.

http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/rh/RH%20Exhibit/text.htm#19th


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19186548 - 11/25/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Nancy Pelosi is another silver spoon up the ass mega rich lib.





And what has that got to do with anything?

The richest piece of crap in federal government is Darrel Issa.




Really?  More than McCain and Kerry?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19186833 - 11/25/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Nancy Pelosi is another silver spoon up the ass mega rich lib.





And what has that got to do with anything?

The richest piece of crap in federal government is Darrel Issa.




Really?  More than McCain and Kerry?




Reportedly $450 Million


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19186854 - 11/25/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Actually, no.  The whole robbing the rich to give to the poor was only added in the late 19th century.  Before that, he was just a violent thief that stole from dishonest people and helped whomever he wanted, including himself.

http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/rh/RH%20Exhibit/text.htm#19th





The legend started 600 years before that

Academics, meanwhile, have combed the historical record for evidence of a real Robin Hood. English legal records suggest that, as early as the 13th century, “Robehod,” “Rabunhod” and other variations had become common epithets for criminals. But what had inspired these nicknames: a fictional tale, an infamous bandit or an amalgam of both? The first literary references to Robin Hood appear in a series of 14th- and 15th-century ballads about a violent yeoman who lived in Sherwood Forest with his men and frequently clashed with the Sheriff of Nottingham. Rather than a peasant, knight or fallen noble, as in later versions, the protagonist of these medieval stories is a commoner. Little John and Will Scarlet are part of this Robin’s “merry” crew—meaning, at the time, an outlaw’s gang—but Maid Marian, Friar Tuck and Alan-a-Dale would not enter the legend until later, possibly as part of the May Day rituals.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19186859 - 11/25/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I know...but he was just a violent thief until the late 19th century.  As a result, most of his existence, he hasn't "robbed from the rich to give to the poor."


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19187477 - 11/25/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wasn't Ivanhoe the genesis of the Robin Hood myth?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19188633 - 11/25/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Nancy Pelosi is another silver spoon up the ass mega rich lib.





And what has that got to do with anything?

The richest piece of crap in federal government is Darrel Issa.



Quote:

sweeper54 said:
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Nancy Pelosi is another silver spoon up the ass mega rich lib.





And what has that got to do with anything?

The richest piece of crap in federal government is Darrel Issa.




7 out of the 10 richest pieces of crap are democrats.  They are the ones that claim to be in touch with 'the little guy' :rofl2:


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19188702 - 11/25/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They aren't the ones trying to take things away from the little guys.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19188709 - 11/25/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The little guys don't have anything to take.


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    #19188741 - 11/25/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Pubs are trying to take the scraps all the time.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19188831 - 11/25/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Pubs are trying to take the scraps all the time.





Try Federal cigarette tax passed By Obama the Assclown in 2009.  It affects mostly the poor.  Oh....he isn't rich, that's right.  he's only worth a few million.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19189156 - 11/25/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Try Federal cigarette tax passed By Obama the Assclown in 2009.  It affects mostly the poor. 




That's voluntary no one has to pay that tax . Otard raised it 62c  per pack . If  this is affecting someone then they must be a broke ass chain smokin welfare collecting motherfucker and they should probably quit. They would be less broke and less of a burden on the health care system .


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19191088 - 11/26/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Pubs are trying to take the scraps all the time.





Try Federal cigarette tax passed By Obama the Assclown in 2009.  It affects mostly the poor.  Oh....he isn't rich, that's right.  he's only worth a few million.




Good that should be doubled again.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19193670 - 11/26/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Pubs are trying to take the scraps all the time.





Try Federal cigarette tax passed By Obama the Assclown in 2009.  It affects mostly the poor.  Oh....he isn't rich, that's right.  he's only worth a few million.




Good that should be doubled again.



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Pubs are trying to take the scraps all the time.





Try Federal cigarette tax passed By Obama the Assclown in 2009.  It affects mostly the poor.  Oh....he isn't rich, that's right.  he's only worth a few million.




Good that should be doubled again.





So you are in favor of fucking over the poor?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19194188 - 11/26/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm in favor of fuck'n over smokers, poor or rich.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #19197594 - 11/27/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm in favor of fuck'n over smokers, poor or rich.



Why are you a prohibitionist?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19197729 - 11/27/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No. But if you want to fuck yourself up that bad, you should have to pay thorough the nose to do it.

And yes I smoke, cigars, occasionally.


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    #19197776 - 11/27/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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No. But if you want to fuck yourself up that bad, you should have to pay thorough the nose to do it.




Why should I pay the government a nickel to fuck myself up?  I don't want or expect them to have anything to do with the consequences.  That's what being a free independent person means, not a government dependent thrall.  My life, my choice my consequences.
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And yes I smoke, cigars, occasionally.




Anything else that Moochelle might consider to be an irresponsible ingestion?  Just cigars?  No beers?  No wine?  No reefer?  No shrooms?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19197818 - 11/27/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Whatever I do I pay the taxes and the returns fee on it.


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    #19197882 - 11/27/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Whatever I do I pay the taxes and the returns fee on it.



Are you high right now and did you pay a tax for it?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19197904 - 11/27/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Grow up dude, I haven't smoked weed or done shrooms in a lot of years.


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    #19198110 - 11/27/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Based on that post and your recent posts in another thread you seem to be rather enhanced right now.  Did you pay out the ass taxes for it?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19198368 - 11/27/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry to disappoint dude, NO.


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    #19209678 - 11/30/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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No. But if you want to fuck yourself up that bad, you should have to pay thorough the nose to do it.





Nothing like living in a democratically ruled "free society". As in you are free to do what they allow you to. Absolutely brilliant.

"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." -Lincoln


Nothing so needs reforming as other people’s habits. ~Mark Twain

I can see why those in the Midwest say there is no way in hell some elitist douchebag, billionare aristocrat from New York is going to tell them how to live, how much soda, salt,sugar,fat, etc. they can consume as HE feels you don't have the right to consume it...it could be dangerous.

Of course these same cocksuckers would gladly send your sorry ass on night mission in Iraq in Humvees with no armor, knowing full well you most likely will be ambushed. All the while they deliberate, stall, talk, "debate" and form committee after subcommittee, to see if soldiers really need MRAP armored vehicles


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Therian] * 1
    #19209757 - 11/30/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They aren't the ones trying to take things away from the little guys.




Then

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I'm in favor of fuck'n over smokers, poor or rich.





I see, so you're against government fucking over the "little guys" until..you're all for it. WTF are you John Kerry. I'm glad a dem finally admitted it is the job of the government to "fuck people over" if they don't agree with your agenda. I don't quite remember the founding fathers stating you have the right to life, liberty, and getting "fucked over" by your government if they so desire.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19210868 - 12/01/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm in favor of fuck'n over smokers, poor or rich.




What happened to equality?


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    #19212266 - 12/01/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What not equal about that?

You smoke, you pay.


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    #19212331 - 12/01/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why?


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    #19212407 - 12/01/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why NOT?


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    #19212671 - 12/01/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Because it's none of your fucking business?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19213037 - 12/01/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They already fucking do so do it some fucking more.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19214039 - 12/01/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19214340 - 12/01/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Go for it.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19214453 - 12/01/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Patlal]
    #19215059 - 12/01/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like the "conservatives" can't come up with a tax policy that doesn't hurt themselves.


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    #19225594 - 12/04/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You talk about limiting government when you should be focusing on limiting corporations.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: mindgnome]
    #19226263 - 12/04/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19226451 - 12/04/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Because he can't handle the responsibility of making decisions for himself.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19226473 - 12/04/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sure bail out the fucking banks every 10-20 years. It make's prefect sense bail of the bank and hope it trickles down to the little guy.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19226481 - 12/04/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The tax payers made money off the bank bailouts.  They lost money off the auto company bailouts and all that green energy nonsense.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19226494 - 12/04/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

And the little guy still got boned.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19226529 - 12/04/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Sure bail out the fucking banks every 10-20 years. It make's prefect sense bail of the bank and hope it trickles down to the little guy.



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    #19227084 - 12/04/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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And the little guy still got boned.



What little guy got boned by the bank bailouts?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19227277 - 12/04/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The little guys that lost their houses.


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    #19227292 - 12/04/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The little guys that lost their houses.



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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19227301 - 12/04/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You mean the ones that took loans out and then failed to make the payments?  Why should they get something for nothing?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19227684 - 12/04/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The little guys that lost their houses.




How is losing your house because you failed to make payments on it getting boned?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19227723 - 12/04/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You mean the ones that took loans out and then failed to make the payments?  Why should they get something for nothing?




Besides all the people who were making payments that were wrongly foreclosed on.

When millions of people nationwide are hurting and are struggling, being kicked out of their home was exactly what they needed.  Instead of a helping hand, they got a cold shoulder.  When the government stepped in to try and stop the hemorrhaging, then banks told people to miss payments on purpose, and then foreclosed on them when they missed payments.

Now the rich folks and their companies are buying up property for dirt cheap and will rent them out/sell them for an exorbitant profit.

I'm all for making money/profit, but when you make that money at the expense of the people who are hurting the most, well, that is simply morally wrong in my opinion.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19240776 - 12/07/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The little guys that lost their houses.




How is losing your house because you failed to make payments on it getting boned?




Maybe because the government chose to bail out the banks instead. Great argument, if they made poor decisions they should pay for it, why did our tax money instead go to bail out these institutions, id rather of saw an expansion of TARP then the ridiculous bail outs for high finance, never has ineptitude been rewarded with so much money.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #19241071 - 12/07/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The government shouldn't bail out anybody. That still doesn't equate to the little guy getting boned.


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    #19241114 - 12/07/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The government forced the banks into insolvency and then made a shit load of money lending to the entities they caused to struggle.  This is the kind of scheme that would make Al Capone proud.  Obama was front and center coercing banks to lend to shitbags.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19244409 - 12/08/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Damn right. He didn't rob the rich to give to the poor. He returned to the people the money that the state had stolen from them.

I watched the Disney Robin Hood with my step son and nephew a couple of weeks back. It's a good illustration of the true nature of the state, and taxation, in a way that children can easily grasp.

One problem I did have was that King Richard was portrayed as a good guy, instead of the murdering crusader that he was.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19244486 - 12/08/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The government shouldn't bail out anybody. That still doesn't equate to the little guy getting boned.



The little guy got boned when the housing bubble burst and people lost their jobs and equity. That was not their fault. That was a result of bad policies. Then the banks, who helped cause the problem, were given a pass while everyone else paid for it.

They also got screwed by the expansion of the money supply and subsequent price rises.

The little guy gets screwed every time the government creates more debt because the little guy has to help pay it off.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: MaxwellSmart]
    #19244527 - 12/08/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Losing your job is not "getting boned".

Losing your house when you can't make the payments is not "getting boned".

Buying more house than you can afford to pay for when times get tough is not "getting boned".

Why should those who pay taxes get boned for the mistakes of others?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19244778 - 12/08/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Losing your job is not "getting boned".

Losing your house when you can't make the payments is not "getting boned".

Buying more house than you can afford to pay for when times get tough is not "getting boned".

Why should those who pay taxes get boned for the mistakes of others?



They shouldn't. I don't believe in bailouts for anyone (nor taxes).

The loss of a productive economy due to manipulation of interest rates and unscrupulous banking practices (encouraged by government policy) amounts to the little guy getting boned. Losing your job makes it hard for you to continue paying the mortgage, especially when there are few other jobs to be had and they don't pay as highly.

My father bought a new home in 2008, right before the crash. He had a decent paying job and substantial savings, as well as assets in the stock market. When the bubble burst, no one wanted to buy the home. He paid two mortgages for 3 years and ultimately, he lost one house. He had paid in twice as much as the home is now worth. It was purchased for about 1/4 of the original value. We can blame him for his decisions but hindsight is 20/20 and most people don't really understand economics. I sure didn't at the time.

The loss of purchasing power resulting from expansion of the money supply is theft. Definitely getting boned.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: MaxwellSmart]
    #19244790 - 12/08/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How is that theft?  Theft is the unlawful taking of another's property with the intent to deprive permanently.  How was that unlawful?


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    #19244791 - 12/08/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Most people don't seem to understand why there was a recession and they certainly didn't see it coming. We don't affect the policies of the Federal Reserve but we are forced to use it's currency. When it is devalued, it is worth less. When it is misallocated and the economy collapsed, it is not our fault, but we suffer. That is getting boned.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: MaxwellSmart]
    #19244795 - 12/08/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Congress has full control and oversight over the Federal Reserve...how can you claim we don't affect its policies?


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    #19244798 - 12/08/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How is that theft?  Theft is the unlawful taking of another's property with the intent to deprive permanently.  How was that unlawful?



You and I live by two different sets of laws. I believe in natural law. You believe in positivist laws of organized criminal gangs.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19244801 - 12/08/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I said "we". We are not Congress.


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    #19244803 - 12/08/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Your "natural law" system includes currency and the devaluation thereof?


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    #19244806 - 12/08/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It is theft because you are taking away the value of their money without allowing them an alternative.


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    #19244844 - 12/08/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Your "natural law" system includes currency and the devaluation thereof?



Sure. When you force people to use a particular currency and then you devalue it, it is essentially taking away the goods which they would have bought with the value that was taken. It is basically theft by deception.
Or more accurately, the problem is that competition of currencies is not allowed. We have no choice but to use depreciating money. If we had the option of using a safer form of money, most of us would. The Federal Reserve would either have to shape up or fail.


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    #19244852 - 12/08/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When they create more money, that money goes toward the purchase of goods. It's not magic. Someone has to pay for that. It ends up benefiting those who receive it first and hurting those whose money has lost value.


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    #19244859 - 12/08/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The federal reserve can't "fail" in that sense.  It is a government agency.  It will exist until Congress decides it won't anymore.  The people aren't forced to use the currency.  They could change the system at any time by electing a Congress that changes it.


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    #19244880 - 12/08/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The federal reserve can't "fail" in that sense.  It is a government agency.  It will exist until Congress decides it won't anymore.  The people aren't forced to use the currency.  They could change the system at any time by electing a Congress that changes it.



You're right. They can't fail. That's the problem with the banking system. They cannot fail. It doesn't matter how poorly they do, they will always have the option to steal from the people.

And regarding the monetary system: can I change it right now? Of course not. I certainly am forced to live under this system and I can't change it.


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    #19244892 - 12/08/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No one forces you to live under the system.  You're welcome to use the barter system rather than currency or move to another country.


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    #19244924 - 12/08/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Stores are not allowed to accept barter, which is insufficient. Taxes may not be pain in barter. Money is a medium of exchange. A medium is necessary for a complex economy. Not everyone wants what I have and what I have may not be divisible for small purchases. Money is important.

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    #19244928 - 12/08/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I believe pretty much every other country also uses something similar.  He is entirely free to use other media for investments.  I do.


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Stores are not allowed to accept barter, which is insufficient.


False.  There is no law prohibiting stores from accepting barter.
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Why don't you leave the country?



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    #19245173 - 12/08/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Stores are not allowed to accept barter, which is insufficient. Taxes may not be pain in barter. Money is a medium of exchange. A medium is necessary for a complex economy. Not everyone wants what I have and what I have may not be divisible for small purchases. Money is important.




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Stores are not allowed to accept barter, which is insufficient.


False.  There is no law prohibiting stores from accepting barter.



There is a law that taxes must be paid in USD. Businesses must have dollars to pay and they must pay.
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Why should I?  I love it.  You're the one pissing and moaning like some kind of victim.



Pissing and moaning? I'm sorry for objecting to immoral practices. I will try harder to be a good little debt slave like yourself and attack anyone who calls attention to injustice and offers an alternative. I have as much right to live in my home as anyone. You don't need to take it personal when someone says everything isn't perfect and we could improve things.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: MaxwellSmart] * 1
    #19245419 - 12/08/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word immoral.  It does not mean "shit Maxwell Smart doesn't like".


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: MaxwellSmart] * 1
    #19245499 - 12/08/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You said you were forced to live under the system, and I offered you an alternative.  You're the one complaining about the system, so why would you suggest that I leave a system that I find to be quite effective?

The system is the way it is because the people want it that way.  If they didn't, they would vote people in to change it.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19245528 - 12/08/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Congress has full control and oversight over the Federal Reserve...how can you claim we don't affect its policies?





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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19245533 - 12/08/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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No one forces you to live under the system.  You're welcome to use the barter system rather than currency or move to another country.





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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19245555 - 12/08/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Stores are not allowed to accept barter, which is insufficient. Taxes may not be pain in barter. Money is a medium of exchange. A medium is necessary for a complex economy. Not everyone wants what I have and what I have may not be divisible for small purchases. Money is important.




That's right.  Not everyone wants what you have.  Sucks to be you.





Fucking collectivist liberal.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19245581 - 12/08/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You said you were forced to live under the system, and I offered you an alternative.  You're the one complaining about the system, so why would you suggest that I leave a system that I find to be quite effective?

The system is the way it is because the people want it that way.  If they didn't, they would vote people in to change it.


t


First of all you are assuming the general population is smart enough to know the difference which they are not.

second you are assuming real democracy exists which it does not.

third you are proposing that it is ok to use physical force against minority groups who have different goals and desires than you  (democracy defined)

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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Shins]
    #19245642 - 12/08/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Stores are not allowed to accept barter, which is insufficient. Taxes may not be pain in barter. Money is a medium of exchange. A medium is necessary for a complex economy. Not everyone wants what I have and what I have may not be divisible for small purchases. Money is important.




That's right.  Not everyone wants what you have.  Sucks to be you.





Fucking collectivist liberal.



Not being a retarded anarchist does not mean that one is a liberal or a statist.  Enjoy your cabin, Ted.

Not for nothing but what are you doing using a collectivist product like the internet?  Fucking liberal.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Shins]
    #19245643 - 12/08/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Congress has full control and oversight over the Federal Reserve...how can you claim we don't affect its policies?





Bullshit you fucking liar



Lol...The federal reserve was created by congress, is regulated by congress and can be dissolved by congress at any time.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19245699 - 12/08/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Stores are not allowed to accept barter, which is insufficient. Taxes may not be pain in barter. Money is a medium of exchange. A medium is necessary for a complex economy. Not everyone wants what I have and what I have may not be divisible for small purchases. Money is important.




That's right.  Not everyone wants what you have.  Sucks to be you.





Fucking collectivist liberal.



Not being a retarded anarchist does not mean that one is a liberal or a statist.  Enjoy your cabin, Ted.

Not for nothing but what are you doing using a collectivist product like the internet?  Fucking liberal.





Analogy fail.

you've already proven you're a luddite in the mass surveillance threads you should really stop trying to be a know it all when you lack the know how.

you should have no right to apply force on me by proxy just because you have a larger gang than me.  That is not civil and not intelligent.

and if you do I should have the right to recipricate.  But like a coward you hide behind an overwhelming state  then you mock the people you so cowardly repress.

yes sir you are bonafied socialist.  Sometimes I wonder if you're just a massive liberal troll who tries to make conservatives look bad because you're sure doing a good job of it.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19245728 - 12/08/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Congress has full control and oversight over the Federal Reserve...how can you claim we don't affect its policies?





Bullshit you fucking liar



Lol...The federal reserve was created by congress, is regulated by congress and can be dissolved by congress at any time.





Youre' ignorant.

I was given a charter by congress not created by it.  It prides itself on its independence from congress and only get token partial oversight.  Congress does not control the feds day to day operations  and the fed has grown so powerful now that it has bought off the majority of congress and the people who run for it.


You know all of this, but youre just a shill who has" turned to the dark side"


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Shins]
    #19245742 - 12/08/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Congress doesn't control the IRS daily operations, but the IRS, the fed, and every other agency of the U.S. government answer to Congress.  Also, they can only do what Congress allows them to do.


Since Congress created the fed 100 years ago, they've amended the act over 200 times in 100 years.  That sounds like a significant amount of control to me.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Shins]
    #19245745 - 12/08/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is, of course, complete nonsense.  Congress could dissolve it any time it wants.  Go back to your L. Ron daisy chain.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19245783 - 12/08/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Congress doesn't control the IRS daily operations, but the IRS, the fed, and every other agency of the U.S. government answer to Congress.  Also, they can only do what Congress allows them to do.


Since Congress created the fed 100 years ago, they've amended the act over 200 times in 100 years.  That sounds like a significant amount of control to me.





That because 1. You're a biased shill.

2.  You lack the know how regarding the feds operations or more likely know and are attempting to obfuscate.


Youre waging a losing battle and your kind will go down in history right beside all the other deplorable fascist regemes.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Shins]
    #19245796 - 12/08/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the protip.  In the meantime, however, you can keep raging against an imaginary cabal of evildoers while I live comfortably.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19245802 - 12/08/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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This is, of course, complete nonsense.  Congress could dissolve it any time it wants.  Go back to your L. Ron daisy chain.




Could but its not.

Congress has a 10% approval rating and most are banker shills.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Shins]
    #19245808 - 12/08/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Everyone who doesn't agree with you is a shill...so yeah...Congress is mostly shills.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19245861 - 12/08/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am Shill!


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19246544 - 12/08/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That doesn't even make sense.  I called you a shill not everyone who disagrees with me.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Shins]
    #19246909 - 12/08/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Shills shills everywhere and not a bribe to take.  Psst, Enlil, how much did you get?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19246953 - 12/08/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I get paid in infants that I sacrifice to baphomet to please my illuminati masters


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19247011 - 12/08/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't put it past someone like you.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19252225 - 12/09/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I get paid in infants that I sacrifice to baphomet to please my illuminati masters



Do you also get paid to argue about every single thing anyone says, whether you know anything about the topic or not, or do you just have a personality disorder of some kind?


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19252241 - 12/09/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't think you understand the meaning of the word immoral.  It does not mean "shit Maxwell Smart doesn't like".



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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: MaxwellSmart]
    #19252244 - 12/09/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I do get paid to argue.


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Re: Robin Hood Takes From The Rich and Gives To The Poor.... [Re: Enlil]
    #19255315 - 12/10/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No you don't troll.


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