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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: LordSenate]
#19173191 - 11/22/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love how what your saying could go for pants too
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: Everything]
#19173195 - 11/22/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've never heard of pants.
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: LordSenate]
#19173209 - 11/22/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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God, I wish I lived where you do.
Oh fuck, totally derailing this thread
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: Everything] 1
#19173215 - 11/22/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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To bring this thread back on topic..
Yes... pant's are neuro toxic.
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: LordSenate] 1
#19173277 - 11/22/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: d0urd3n]
#19173541 - 11/22/13 03:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: I didn't know where else to ask this question, mods feel free to move. Thanks.
A list,naming off, or giving links etc for any nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants would be greatly appreciated. I am mainly speaking of drugs that truly would be considered recreation, or could be, based on the dosage (e.g. not adaptogens). This may sound like an odd question to ask, but I consider it interesting and important for a few reasons. Thanks again.
Alcohol
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19173553 - 11/22/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alcohol comes from a bacteria grown on sugars produced by plants, seems close enough.
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: Everything] 1
#19173598 - 11/22/13 04:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeast is not a bacterium it is a fungal species although some bacteria can produce ethanol they are not used to brew commercial supplies
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: d0urd3n]
#19173688 - 11/22/13 05:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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OP, care to tell us why you are asking this question? Kinda confusing...
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: d0urd3n]
#19173908 - 11/22/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharanthus_roseus
This plant has some neurotoxic/cytotoxic alkaloids but I don't think it's psychoactive.
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: psi]
#19173933 - 11/22/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushrooms make you brain bleed and thats how you trip so I guess that means there neurotoxic.
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: NotTheDevil] 2
#19173940 - 11/22/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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They don't make your brain bleed dumbass, they open up tiny black holes in your pineal gland.
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: Sleepwalker]
#19173981 - 11/22/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sleepwalker said: They don't make your brain bleed dumbass, they open up tiny black holes in your pineal gland.
how could I have been so stupid!
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19174120 - 11/22/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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look up like 10 deadliest plants on youtube
you said neuro toxic though
that is extremely specific lol
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: Konyap]
#19174161 - 11/22/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well it seems like there are many synthetic recreational drugs that are neuro-toxic, or have the potential to be. I really couldn't think of any natural drugs that are relationally used and neuro-toxic.
Some are toxic to other organs or cause cancer such as nicotine, but none are physically harmful to the brain. It was just something I was wondering about, did some brief research on and couldn't find much so I thought I would ask you guys.
Do you think that there is a reason that there aren't many or is this just purely coincidence?
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: d0urd3n]
#19174173 - 11/22/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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most plants in speculation just make you trip so you don't fuck with them anymore and go away from them
you could develop a disorder and your brain would develop differently but it's more or less average
i want to hypothesis though if you got an extreme fever there would be some brain damage over a certain threshold but you would probably die at that point
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: d0urd3n]
#19174177 - 11/22/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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you guys forgot about jenkem
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: schwarg]
#19174353 - 11/22/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Quinuclidinyl_benzilate
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BZ is dispersed as an aerosol. It may be micropulverized for dissemination by a disperser (90% dissemination efficiency), or mixed with a pyrotechnic burning mixture for dissemination in burning munitions (70% dissemination efficiency). Alternatively, it may be dissolved in a solvent such as DMSO to enhance percutaneous absorption, though experiments before this proved unsatisfactory for military purposes. Bioavailability via ingestion and by inhalation of particles 1 micrometer in size approximates 80%, and 40 to 50%, respectively, of a parenterally delivered dose of BZ. Percutaneous absorption of BZ dissolved in propylene glycol yields, after a latent period of up to 24 hours, serum levels approximately 5 to 10% of those achieved with intravenous or intramuscular administration. Following absorption, BZ is systemically distributed to most organs and biological tissues of the body. Its ability to reach synapses and neuromuscular and neuroglandular junctions throughout the body is responsible for its PNS effects, whereas its ability to cross the blood–brain barrier confers upon it the ability to cause CNS effects. Atropine and hyoscyamine both cross the placenta and can be found in small quantities in breast milk; whether this is also true for BZ is unclear. Metabolism of BZ would be expected to occur primarily in the liver, with elimination of unchanged agent and metabolites chiefly in the urine.
edit: nevermind this is synthetic. reading comprehension fail.
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: d0urd3n]
#19174464 - 11/22/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: Well it seems like there are many synthetic recreational drugs that are neuro-toxic, or have the potential to be. I really couldn't think of any natural drugs that are relationally used and neuro-toxic.
Some are toxic to other organs or cause cancer such as nicotine, but none are physically harmful to the brain. It was just something I was wondering about, did some brief research on and couldn't find much so I thought I would ask you guys.
Do you think that there is a reason that there aren't many or is this just purely coincidence?
Alcohol, and there are way more synthetic drugs than natural ones in the first place.
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Re: Nonsynthetic neuro-toxic psychoactive drugs/pants [Re: Spiderbaby]
#19174899 - 11/22/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spiderbaby said: Yeast is not a bacterium it is a fungal species although some bacteria can produce ethanol they are not used to brew commercial supplies
Thanks mate, shoulda known.
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