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JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus
    #19172554 - 11/21/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ive already tried looking this up but most of the time no one seems to specify the strain of bridgesii theyre using. So to make it brief, does the JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus contain any mescaline that will produce a nice trip (i know it varies..)? OR is this strain like the PC san pedro (the very weak in mescaline SP's)


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: CuriousGG]
    #19172595 - 11/21/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm pretty sure Bridgesii are the most consistent columnar cacti mescaline-wise. Foot long doses all day.


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #19172599 - 11/21/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i meant if the Jl12 strain also contains as much mescaline. or is this the only strain that everyone uses?


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: CuriousGG]
    #19172619 - 11/21/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They probably have more mescaline. San Pedro have very inconsistent contents from plant to plant. Bridgesii is supposed to have a more consistent amount of mescaline (i think its 1% dry weight). So the rule of thumb for a foot long by three inch wide cutting of most bridgesii cuttings regardless of strain, should produce pretty consistent results. But I've never tried Bridgesii. Good Luck!


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #19172637 - 11/21/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Does anyone else have any input, would be appreciated!


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: CuriousGG]
    #19172663 - 11/21/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #19172887 - 11/21/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cant say I have heard of a Trichocereus bridgesii Jl12. Without breaking the rules can you tell us more about where this cacti is or have you got photos of it.

I understand that if it is a bridgesii then it will be all good for what you want but is it a bridgesii ?

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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: CuriousGG]
    #19172902 - 11/21/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Pretty much all bridgesii are potent as far as I've ever heard. I doubt very many people here are gonna be familiar with a particular clone like that.


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19173755 - 11/22/13 06:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ive never heard of this strain could it be JB bridgesii? Either way if it has a clone name its likely potent to some degree unless named just to charge more for a cutting. Inactive bridgesii are very rare although there seems to be a report or two of this happening, likely misidentified cactus. Post a pic like GoT suggested.


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: modern.shaman]
    #19173948 - 11/22/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Or improper preparation/ingestion


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19177062 - 11/23/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah im worried that this will just be another clone that will not be half as strong as it should be. <SNIP>

these are potted but the same type of cactus as the first one.

Here are some pictures i took from online. *just in case im not supposed to add a link!*




The Ji12 Trichocereus Achuma Bridgesii Cactus..i have never heard of this before, just Bridgesii Cactus. Can anyone tell me if these are just weak clones that i shouldnt bother with, and that i should go with what seems to be the regular type of bridgesii he sells? The Ji12  strain of bridgesii <SNIP> is selling costs a LOT MORE compared to his other original-seeming bridgessi cactus.

PRICES AS ADVERTISED ON <SNIP>:
1. Four Ji12 Trichocereus Achuma Bridgesii Cactus 12" Top Cuts From <SNIP>: $78.00 + $21.99 shipping

<SNIP>

2. *REGULAR* 4 12" Trichocereus Bridgesii Top Cuttings- $54.00 + $16.99 shipping

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: CuriousGG]
    #19177215 - 11/23/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

CuriousGG, I have pointed you towards the rules on more than one occasion.
Here is a link again if you are having troubles finding the sticky at the top of the forum.
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Here are some pictures i took from online. *just in case im not supposed to add a link!*





Thanks, this is a preferred approach.

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I would recommend you read the rules first if in doubt. It would be a common courtesy towards other posters to spend some time learning the rules of the forum, before asking others to spend time in discussion and research assisting you (and mods cleaning up posts that break rules! :wink:)


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: CuriousGG]
    #19177360 - 11/23/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The seller is just making his own clone names up from what I can see. He even has what looks like a PC Pach called Ji13.
Unless you really like the look of his "Ji12" just buy the cheaper versions. A bridge is a Bridge unless it is a well known clone if someone has just put there own name to a Bridge then that is what it is a Bridge.

PS It would have made it easer to give you some answers yesterday if you had called it a Ji12 instead of Jl12. :wink: Also the one that he has for sale in one lot of four look like they had more spines than the lot that are potted. The Potted ones mostly have two or less spines per areole. :shrug:

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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: GoOnThen]
    #19177573 - 11/23/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think I see cacti cutting with spines removed. Also potted plants have some bridgesii features.

Pictures are not perfect but I can see they have some bridgesii appearance as well as spines and shape..

About the thing should you buy them or not, it's your decision. I think it's only way to be sure.

I don't say this vendor you take photos show wrong pictures but keep in mind some vendors use old photos from old different clones and can use photos what are not taken from the plants they are actually are going to sell.
You never know until you buy cutting(s) but it is also very likely there are same plants in picture what vendor are going to sell. Some vendors use pictures where are not same cuttings as they are going to sell and use picture just because appearance is same. Anyway, I don't know vendor and source so you have to find out yourself.

If you are going to buy bridgesii and you are after mescaline, just buy and test.. There are no simple way to find relatively strong mescaline plants if you are not test them yourself. People here can say and guide you what clone name is what and do they have mescaline but you cannot be sure where vendor have get the names for cuttings or so.

I suggest to buy few bridgesii from almost any vendor who sell them in your country and try them. Also take a piece of cutting for cultivation so you don't loose probably potent clones and therefor you need to start hunting again potent cacti if you brew all you got and want to take a trip later.

Also one thing, even I am not a moderator here but I want to say please learn from advice and don't break EG rules constantly without learn a lesson when moderator say you break rules of EG. :thumbup:


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: intelligentlife]
    #19180929 - 11/23/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so here is the ji12 BRIDGESII strain picture:


this is one is not identified as the ji12 strain:


these are identified as the ji13 SAN PEDRO strain


these are identified just as regular san pedros (theyre potted)





1. is the ji12 bridgesii strain a clone?
2. are the potted san pedros actually the ji13 san pedro strain?

*just judging from the picture

and  intelligentlife thank you for always commentng on my posts but i want to hear the opinions of others please. thanks!


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: CuriousGG]
    #19181300 - 11/24/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nice cactus :shrug:
1 yes.  See how the bottom is cut with a knife flush with no root? That means its a cutting/clone of a mother plant. 

2 who knows other then the dude...  The two pedros look the same from the pix imo.  Maybe guy grew a bunch of seed out  labeled his favorites with the initials and labeled the rest as standard  I don't know.    Never heard if this JI12/13.


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Re: JI12 Bridgesii Trichocereus Achuma Cactus [Re: CuriousGG] * 1
    #19183736 - 11/24/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This thread is funny in that not so funny way.

Those pedros aren't anything special imo, and resemble PC pachanoi.

The numbering of the plants is just a way to keep track of the variations between the species. It doesn't indicate one is more potent than the other. Just get the cheaper bridgesii and you'll be happy. If you decide to grow them later, then you can collect all the named ones.


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