Home | Community | Message Board

MRCA Tyroler Gluckspilze
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Injection Grain Bag   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
OfflineForgottenFreshness
Staying High
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/16/13
Posts: 211
Last seen: 4 months, 20 hours
WTF Is Wrong With My Grain Prep
    #19172357 - 11/21/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Below is a pic of wheat grain in a jar inoculated with pink oyster lc



As you can see nothing is growing

This jar was from the first batch of wheat which was boiled for 10 min till the first grains burst then left to steam off till no more steam was produced. All of 10ish pint jars sat (after inoc) for 2+ weeks till finally contam started to grow from inside the grain.

The second batch was boiled and allowed to steam off for about 5-10 min then loaded into jars while still a bit steamy on the bottom grains. Then pressure cooked for 90min @15psi. This was done in hopes of trapping in more moisture to aid mycelium growth.

Which unfortunately had no effect. No tams yet but no growth either.

The lc was made from a syringe purchased from out-grow and is growing just fine so I know the culture is alive.

What exactly am I doing wrong?


Edited by ForgottenFreshness (11/21/13 08:10 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineForgottenFreshness
Staying High
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/16/13
Posts: 211
Last seen: 4 months, 20 hours
Re: wtf if wrong with my grain prep [Re: ForgottenFreshness]
    #19172386 - 11/21/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is the prep I used except without coffee and gypsum. Oh and this is soft winter wheat only needs about 10-15 min boil before the first grains burst. Other than that all the same.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14308419#14308419

Wheat is so damn cheap here 50# for $12! I really want to get this working


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleblindingleaf
blue collar underworld
 User Gallery


Registered: 07/19/13
Posts: 22,008
Loc: sub-surface unseen
Trusted Cultivator
Re: wtf if wrong with my grain prep [Re: ForgottenFreshness]
    #19172390 - 11/21/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

did u try soaking them before a boil for any period of time?  usually its a 12-24 hr soak, then a 10 min simmer, then drain and shake for 30 min as steam is being let off the grains.  Im sure ppl have success with just a boil but I'd say a common practice here is to soak/simmer.


--------------------
A few thoughts on cultivation
MICROBIAL HUSBANDRY!!!!

The whole is greater than the sum of its parts


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineForgottenFreshness
Staying High
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/16/13
Posts: 211
Last seen: 4 months, 20 hours
Re: wtf if wrong with my grain prep [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19172407 - 11/21/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, I soaked over night and boil/pc the following afternoon.


Edited by ForgottenFreshness (11/21/13 08:08 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
Trusted Cultivator
Re: wtf if wrong with my grain prep [Re: ForgottenFreshness]
    #19172444 - 11/21/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe your LC is bunk. Home made or vendor?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFunnyLight
Nom NOm NOM
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/12/11
Posts: 1,124
Loc: fuckin Mars man
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
Re: wtf if wrong with my grain prep [Re: ForgottenFreshness]
    #19172461 - 11/21/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It looks dry in that jar. Lots of swollen kernels, almost to the point of splitting. Maybe you boiled too long and cracked the kernels, releasing the sticky starches that suck up water.

If it's too dry, the spores won't fly.

Maybe do a 12 hours soak, then load some jars with no boil, 5min boil, 10min boil and 15min boil. PC em all and see if any take. I'm not sure how delicate wheat is, hence the spread of boil times.


--------------------
The most powerful drive through the ascent of man, is pleasure in his own skill.
J. Bronowski

Home of delicious "Psychedelic Nyotaimori".
Thanks Lemmingp for that.

:mushroom2::grin::mushroom2:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineForgottenFreshness
Staying High
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/16/13
Posts: 211
Last seen: 4 months, 20 hours
Re: wtf if wrong with my grain prep [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19172491 - 11/21/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

5 jars of the first batch were from a out-grow.com lc syringe. The rest were from a lc I made from the remaining lc left in the syringe. Since it grew I don't think it's bunk could be wrong though.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineForgottenFreshness
Staying High
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/16/13
Posts: 211
Last seen: 4 months, 20 hours
Re: wtf if wrong with my grain prep [Re: FunnyLight]
    #19172525 - 11/21/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

FunnyLight said:
It looks dry in that jar. Lots of swollen kernels, almost to the point of splitting. Maybe you boiled too long and cracked the kernels, releasing the sticky starches that suck up water.

If it's too dry, the spores won't fly.

Maybe do a 12 hours soak, then load some jars with no boil, 5min boil, 10min boil and 15min boil. PC em all and see if any take. I'm not sure how delicate wheat is, hence the spread of boil times.




So avoid splitting? I'd thought bursting was the only precaution? If that's the case all these jars should fail (bummer) since most of the grains are somewhat cracked or slightly opened.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJMcDoogle
A Serious Scholar


Registered: 07/07/09
Posts: 1,495
Loc: Nunavut
Last seen: 3 years, 9 months
Re: wtf if wrong with my grain prep [Re: ForgottenFreshness]
    #19172687 - 11/21/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ForgottenFreshness said:
Quote:

FunnyLight said:
It looks dry in that jar. Lots of swollen kernels, almost to the point of splitting. Maybe you boiled too long and cracked the kernels, releasing the sticky starches that suck up water.

If it's too dry, the spores won't fly.

Maybe do a 12 hours soak, then load some jars with no boil, 5min boil, 10min boil and 15min boil. PC em all and see if any take. I'm not sure how delicate wheat is, hence the spread of boil times.




So avoid splitting? I'd thought bursting was the only precaution? If that's the case all these jars should fail (bummer) since most of the grains are somewhat cracked or slightly opened.




I dont think the MYC is going to be picky
in regards to split grains or not.

If theres moisture, which Im sure there is the myc
shoudl've atleast shown itself -

I'd watch the jars, if NO contams come, and NO myc comes
I'd call the syringe bunk and request a replacement.


--------------------
The ego is nothing other than the focus of conscious attention.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineForgottenFreshness
Staying High
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/16/13
Posts: 211
Last seen: 4 months, 20 hours
Re: wtf if wrong with my grain prep [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19173970 - 11/22/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

JMcDoogle said:
Quote:

ForgottenFreshness said:
Quote:

FunnyLight said:
It looks dry in that jar. Lots of swollen kernels, almost to the point of splitting. Maybe you boiled too long and cracked the kernels, releasing the sticky starches that suck up water.

If it's too dry, the spores won't fly.

Maybe do a 12 hours soak, then load some jars with no boil, 5min boil, 10min boil and 15min boil. PC em all and see if any take. I'm not sure how delicate wheat is, hence the spread of boil times.




So avoid splitting? I'd thought bursting was the only precaution? If that's the case all these jars should fail (bummer) since most of the grains are somewhat cracked or slightly opened.




I dont think the MYC is going to be picky
in regards to split grains or not.

If theres moisture, which Im sure there is the myc
shoudl've atleast shown itself -

I'd watch the jars, if NO contams come, and NO myc comes
I'd call the syringe bunk and request a replacement.




Read this

Quote:

ForgottenFreshness said:
5 jars of the first batch were from a out-grow.com lc syringe. The rest were from a lc I made from the remaining lc left in the syringe. Since it grew I don't think it's bunk could be wrong though.




I made a lc with the syringe and it grew lol.

The comment about splitting grain and starches makes perfect sense. This is why popcorn has to be washed after boiling.


Edited by ForgottenFreshness (11/22/13 08:08 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Injection Grain Bag   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Grain prep ala GGMM YidakiMan 852 2 08/29/03 05:04 PM
by YidakiMan
* pressure cooking long grain brown rice whitepolkadots 4,187 3 08/14/03 09:33 PM
by Psilocybin_monkey
* Grain technique. Is this gonna work? oO_wombat_Oo 525 3 09/22/03 04:41 AM
by Starter
* Golden Teacher ..... and grains??? milddub 5,060 8 08/22/03 08:44 PM
by Bigcaps
* BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek.
( 1 2 3 4 ... 91 92 )
bodhisattaMDiscordReddit 237,844 1,820 12/18/23 02:39 PM
by molas77
* Help! Liquid culture on grain going bad wrong Submob 2,519 4 10/26/03 03:01 AM
by Submob
* Millet prep quesiton Innernaut 3,358 14 02/14/07 10:09 AM
by Lapius
* ???W.T.F. did i do wrong??? REDCONTROL 662 7 01/07/03 06:04 PM
by RedCommyBasterd

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
1,037 topic views. 43 members, 200 guests and 44 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.028 seconds spending 0.01 seconds on 14 queries.