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Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling).
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Doorknobs in Vancouver are set to become a relic of the past after city council recently ushered in Canada’s first adaptable housing bylaw.
As of early 2014, all new housing units built in Vancouver will require a slew of new accessibility features, including wider stairways, higher outlets and a main-floor bathroom.
But the change receiving the most attention is the banishment of doorknobs, in favour of easier-to-turn lever handles.
Some have decried the loss of doorknobs as excessive and unnecessary, but according to one Toronto-based locksmith, the handles have been on their way out the door, both in Canada and the U.S., for some time.
“A lot of the manufacturers have stopped making doorknobs because they knew this was coming,” says Jason Scheide, owner of Spadina Security.
While the slow extinction of doorknobs is throwing the industry “a curveball,” Scheide said, levers are a more sensible option for those with limited strength and movement. He points to people in wheelchairs, sufferers of arthritis -- even a person returning home with groceries.
He’s been recommending levers to clients for the past five years.
One drawback, however, is the possible extra costs such a ban will bring. Since levers require an extra spring, they tend to be at least $20 more expensive than a doorknob of similar quality, Scheide said.
“That might change, but right now in the market, levers are more expensive,” he said.
In terms of decorative value, Scheide said levers are the way to go anyway.
“Doorknobs are usually dated and ugly and we’re happy to change them,” Scheide said.
Scheide wouldn’t say which handle is easier for burglars, but noted these days, locksmiths usually recommend a deadbolt as an added layer of protection.
Jill Weiss, chair of Vancouver’s Persons with Disabilities Advisory Committee, said costs in general are not expected to be significant for new housing units. She dismissed talk about the doorknob debate, saying she has not heard any opposition from anyone regarding the new law, including Vancouver builders.
“It’s very important because in the lifetime of a house, almost 100 per cent of houses will have someone that needs these features so it makes real sense and it’s very inexpensive to do a construction,” Weiss told CTV News Channel on Thursday.
In addition to lever handles, requirements under the new Vancouver bylaw include: Wider hallways and doorways Lower light switches Reinforcements in bathroom walls Barrier-free shower Lower wastepipes under sinks Higher outlets Main floor bathroom Wider stairways for possible installation of a stair lift
Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/no-doorknobs-allowed-in-new-vancouver-homes-after-city-passes-bylaw-1.1554665#ixzz2lKkIXy7T
Flathead screws should be eliminated too. Piece of shit screws
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
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Yeah right, flat head screws are way more possible to use even if you don't have a screwdriver. YOU CRAZY.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Zombi3]
#19171760 - 11/21/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That entire list seems a little unnecessary in my opinion.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
#19171770 - 11/21/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Levers are cooler, but this is a little too much.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: jewunit]
#19171775 - 11/21/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Phillips and allen head screws strip way too easily. Flatheads > all'
I like levers more than doorknobs but the doorknobs are more aesthetically pleasing.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
#19171788 - 11/21/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's all a conspiracy.. Since when does a spring (small enough for a door opening mechanism anyways) cost 20 bucks? Either some head honcho in the spring community is pulling the strings or it's the door knob handle manufacturers.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: pcplease]
#19171796 - 11/21/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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pcplease said: Phillips and allen head screws strip way too easily. Flatheads > all'
I like levers more than doorknobs but the doorknobs are more aesthetically pleasing.
GTFO, flatheads suck, if anything needs to be outlawed it's them pointless irritating things.
They are so much harder to deal with than phillips.
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oooooooooooh caaaaaaaaanadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you're really fucking weeeirrddddd.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: memes]
#19171914 - 11/21/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You have to get germs on your hand to turn a doorknob, but if it's a lever handle you can use your elbow or sleeve easily
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: dontknow]
#19171941 - 11/21/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Robertson screws FTW
Also, of course the locksmith is in favour of this.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
#19172387 - 11/21/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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We have similar shit in the U.S. All sorts of building codes and properties exist, and many places (maybe all of them?) must be handicap accessible etc.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: badchad]
#19172415 - 11/21/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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badchad said: We have similar shit in the U.S. All sorts of building codes and properties exist, and many places (maybe all of them?) must be handicap accessible etc.
No, we don't. What is being implemented in Vancouver affects private dwellings. What we have in the states affects public buildings.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Khii Khwaay]
#19172416 - 11/21/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Khii Khwaay said: Robertson screws FTW
This. Flatheads are not self-centering and Phillips bits pop out of the screw head too easily.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: badchad]
#19172435 - 11/21/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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they don't go nearly far enough. A citizen should probably have to submit an application form and fee to the government for each picture they want to hang on their wall.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
#19172523 - 11/21/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah this is kind of messed up
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: pcplease]
#19172935 - 11/21/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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pcplease said: Phillips and allen head screws strip way too easily. Flatheads > all'
I like levers more than doorknobs but the doorknobs are more aesthetically pleasing.
What?? The surface area on allen keys is huge compared to a flathead. If you're not a moron it's very difficult to strip an allen key.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19172966 - 11/21/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How about just buying quality tools and not the shit in the bargain bin at your local auto parts shop or Harbor Freight Tools.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: 4runner]
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anunnakian said: How about just buying quality tools and not the shit in the bargain bin at your local auto parts shop or Harbor Freight Tools.
No need to think anymore. the government is involved now. They believe everyone is too stupid to think for themselves, therefore, if flat head screws ( or allens, or phillips,) are an issue I'm sure they will issue a regulation.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: 4runner]
#19173576 - 11/22/13 04:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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anunnakian said:
No, we don't. What is being implemented in Vancouver affects private dwellings. What we have in the states affects public buildings.
So you're saying there are no building codes that apply to private dwellings here in the U.S.? I don't think I agree with that.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
#19173646 - 11/22/13 05:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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Doorknobs in Vancouver are set to become a relic of the past after city council recently ushered in Canada’s first adaptable housing bylaw.
As of early 2014, all new housing units built in Vancouver will require a slew of new accessibility features, including wider stairways, higher outlets and a main-floor bathroom.
But the change receiving the most attention is the banishment of doorknobs, in favour of easier-to-turn lever handles.
Some have decried the loss of doorknobs as excessive and unnecessary, but according to one Toronto-based locksmith, the handles have been on their way out the door, both in Canada and the U.S., for some time.
“A lot of the manufacturers have stopped making doorknobs because they knew this was coming,” says Jason Scheide, owner of Spadina Security.
While the slow extinction of doorknobs is throwing the industry “a curveball,” Scheide said, levers are a more sensible option for those with limited strength and movement. He points to people in wheelchairs, sufferers of arthritis -- even a person returning home with groceries.
He’s been recommending levers to clients for the past five years.
One drawback, however, is the possible extra costs such a ban will bring. Since levers require an extra spring, they tend to be at least $20 more expensive than a doorknob of similar quality, Scheide said.
“That might change, but right now in the market, levers are more expensive,” he said.
In terms of decorative value, Scheide said levers are the way to go anyway.
“Doorknobs are usually dated and ugly and we’re happy to change them,” Scheide said.
Scheide wouldn’t say which handle is easier for burglars, but noted these days, locksmiths usually recommend a deadbolt as an added layer of protection.
Jill Weiss, chair of Vancouver’s Persons with Disabilities Advisory Committee, said costs in general are not expected to be significant for new housing units. She dismissed talk about the doorknob debate, saying she has not heard any opposition from anyone regarding the new law, including Vancouver builders.
“It’s very important because in the lifetime of a house, almost 100 per cent of houses will have someone that needs these features so it makes real sense and it’s very inexpensive to do a construction,” Weiss told CTV News Channel on Thursday.
In addition to lever handles, requirements under the new Vancouver bylaw include: Wider hallways and doorways Lower light switches Reinforcements in bathroom walls Barrier-free shower Lower wastepipes under sinks Higher outlets Main floor bathroom Wider stairways for possible installation of a stair lift
Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/no-doorknobs-allowed-in-new-vancouver-homes-after-city-passes-bylaw-1.1554665#ixzz2lKkIXy7T
Flathead screws should be eliminated too. Piece of shit screws
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: pwnasaurus]
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pcplease said: Phillips and allen head screws strip way too easily. Flatheads > all'
I like levers more than doorknobs but the doorknobs are more aesthetically pleasing.
What?? The surface area on allen keys is huge compared to a flathead. If you're not a moron it's very difficult to strip an allen key.
Yep you generally have to be doing something wrong to strip them. Mixing up inch and metric types or otherwise using too small of a key is probably one of the more common ways to do this.
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#19173854 - 11/22/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
He’s been recommending levers to clients for the past five years.
 i stopped reading OP after this line how can i take this man seriously if he's only been recommending levers for five years? he's still a n00b in the lever world
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Wider hallways and doorways
For wider people!
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Quawonk]
#19173871 - 11/22/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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too much poutine
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: broken]
#19173888 - 11/22/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is pretty much the same as in the US for any apartment complexes or any public buildings....it is for handicapped people and has been around since the late 80's...called ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) The only time you hear about it is when some poor handicapped person has to sue the Owner so they can get into the building....otherwise, it is not very strictly enforced.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Thayendanegea]
#19174064 - 11/22/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why not sliding doors?
Why lever handles?
Damn yuppies invading our business ethic!
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Konyap]
#19174094 - 11/22/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've worked as a door/door hardware installer/locksmith, albeit in the commercial/government sector. And I can say that 99% of these institutions all use levers over knobs. I'd like to see more levers in residential.
In general a lever is a superior product. Although not as secure if the door doesnt have a deadbolt(which exterior doors should), as the handle is much easier to bash and break the internals, allowing access.
As well, in commercial door hardware, 100% of the screws are phillips. A quality screw and a quality bit, and it is very hard to strip. Most people who strip phillips have poor technique that results in them being stripped. Or they are using a garbage cheapo bit where the sides round off easily, resulting in higher chance of stripping.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Konyap]
#19174096 - 11/22/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Illyabo said: Why not sliding doors?
Why lever handles?
Damn yuppies invading our business ethic!
Probably because if you were in a wheel chair, operating a sliding door would be difficult.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
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Illyabo said: Why not sliding doors?
Why lever handles?
Damn yuppies invading our business ethic!
Probably because if you were in a wheel chair, operating a sliding door would be difficult.
Why not these?
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: badchad]
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So they did this to all the homes just in case a handicap guy shows up?
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: lowbrow]
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: lowbrow]
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Yes. The same way stores in the U.S. have to have handicap places just in case a handicap guy "shows up".
You'd need to look into the specifics of the law to determine when and how these requirements are needed and how they apply to private vs. public buildings, residences etc.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Konyap]
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Its kind of sad. Soon we won't be able to use the term "Dumb as a doorknob"
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Legend]
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Legend said: That entire list seems a little unnecessary in my opinion.
Of course, it's not for you. It's for old, fat and broken people.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Eddeee]
#19174272 - 11/22/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eddeee said: Its kind of sad. Soon we won't be able to use the term "Dumb as a doorknob"
We'll be able to use it more effectively because door knobs will be obsolete.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: EdibleStereos]
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EdibleStereos said: As well, in commercial door hardware, 100% of the screws are phillips. A quality screw and a quality bit, and it is very hard to strip.
Phillips are still horrible technology. Robertson >>> phillips. Phillips are simply used because they are American and robertson screws are Canadian so the phillips became more popularized.
More popular != better.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: pwnasaurus]
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EdibleStereos said: As well, in commercial door hardware, 100% of the screws are phillips. A quality screw and a quality bit, and it is very hard to strip.
Phillips are still horrible technology. Robertson >>> phillips. Phillips are simply used because they are American and robertson screws are Canadian so the phillips became more popularized.
More popular != better.
It does mean more convenient though, because I don't have to hunt down that damn non-philips screwdriver
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: NotTheDevil]
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Eddeee said: Its kind of sad. Soon we won't be able to use the term "Dumb as a doorknob"
We'll be able to use it more effectively because door knobs will be obsolete.
In the future Know body will know what a door knob was though. Our attention spans are not that long. They will be like what? Dumb as a what? WTF. Oh that right dumb as a lever. Hmm just dosent have the same appeal. Its Sad.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19174304 - 11/22/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The great screw debate.
To know more about screw, why not read the very interesting wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19174315 - 11/22/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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pwnasaurus said:
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EdibleStereos said: As well, in commercial door hardware, 100% of the screws are phillips. A quality screw and a quality bit, and it is very hard to strip.
Phillips are still horrible technology. Robertson >>> phillips. Phillips are simply used because they are American and robertson screws are Canadian so the phillips became more popularized.
More popular != better.
The problem with robertson and using modern power tools is over torquing. Roberston is fine for wood screws, but for mechanical screws phillips is better choice.
If roberston was used instead of phillips in machine screws, you'd see a lot more destroyed threads, resulting in having to use taps.
My favourite combo is a philly with an impact driver.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Eddeee]
#19174337 - 11/22/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eddeee said: Its kind of sad. Soon we won't be able to use the term "Dumb as a doorknob"
We'll be able to use it more effectively because door knobs will be obsolete.
In the future Know body will know what a door knob was though. Our attention spans are not that long. They will be like what? Dumb as a what? WTF. Oh that right dumb as a lever. Hmm just dosent have the same appeal. Its Sad.
We keep a lot of obsolete phrases about like "rule of thumb" it was legal somewhere to beat your wife as long as the stick you used is only as thick as your thumb We as a species keep saying things even when there original meaning is lost to time.
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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: EdibleStereos]
#19174342 - 11/22/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sure let's help the velociraptors into our homes now.
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